EA’s hold over Star Wars games ends with Ubisoft’s open-world announcement

vegeta535 said:
We EA did good with fallen Jedi and squadrons. They totally screwed up BF2 and the games before that were pretty meh.
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Squadrons they were very hands off on and was a one shot. Small team, small budget, one and done. Fallen Jedi does have the possibility for a lot more should they follow through on it, but I doubt they will as while it was good they didn’t make a lot of money on it.
 
I believe the snowdrop engine will support a very small universe without some big time enhancements.
 
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Didn't see the numbers but it seems like Squadrons was barely marketed and did well for a game with a tiny scope and what looks like a tiny budget as well...
 
THRESHIN said:
Call it only my opinion if you want, but I can't see Ubisoft doing any better of a job. It's a race to the bottom between Ubisoft and EA.
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Ubisoft will without a doubt shoehorn the IP into the camp-conquer model they've been milking in every one of their AAAs since 2007. The first game will almost certainly be Far Cry with new skins.

For me in any case, having Star Wars associated with a game is a total turn off at this point.
 
Lakados said:
Squadrons they were very hands off on and was a one shot. Small team, small budget, one and done. Fallen Jedi does have the possibility for a lot more should they follow through on it, but I doubt they will as while it was good they didn’t make a lot of money on it.
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What? Jedi: Fallen Order has sold more than 12 million copies to-date, exceeding EA's expectations. It was the second best selling game behind Modern Warfare 2019 in the 12-month period of November 2019 through October 2020.
 
I respect Massive and appreciate the job they did on both Division games.......they will probably find a way to make a decent balanced Star Wars Online RPG.....it won't be my thing but I know a lot of people will consider this a holy grail.....
 
Armenius said:
What? Jedi: Fallen Order has sold more than 12 million copies to-date, exceeding EA's expectations. It was the second best selling game behind Modern Warfare 2019 in the 12-month period of November 2019 through October 2020.
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Correct. That game was a success. Besides the fact that I actually *gasp* liked it. It did sell very well. Actually, it did even better on PC once it went to Steam.
 
Dam so no Jedi: Fallen Order sequel I guess. I did like JFA. Since it's Star Wars it probably won't be a Far Cry reskin, more likely an Assassin's Creed reskin.
 
HeadRusch said:
I respect Massive and appreciate the job they did on both Division games.......they will probably find a way to make a decent balanced Star Wars Online RPG.....it won't be my thing but I know a lot of people will consider this a holy grail.....
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Agreed. Not only have they done a great job overall but they've proven a willingness to listen to criticism and retool a game accordingly. The Division 1 ended up as a very different and much improved game vs what launched originally. Division 2 and it's expansion were both pretty universally praised.
 
LurkerLito said:
Dam so no Jedi: Fallen Order sequel I guess. I did like JFA. Since it's Star Wars it probably won't be a Far Cry reskin, more likely an Assassin's Creed reskin.
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No exclusivity doesn't mean that EA can't make more games. Word is that a sequel has already been under way at Respawn.
 
Loved falled order but damn it did not run well. Poor coding/optimizations resulted in cpu loading spikes everywhere.

that being said, would def hit that villian girl.
 
This is terrible news. EA screws up a lot, and like all major publishers/developers they aren't ideal. But they have a far better track record than Ubisoft. Less microtransactions in most of their games (obviously Battlefront 2 was an outlier) and a commitment to keep that stuff to a minimum in the future. Fallen Order was a decent game, and a proper action adventure single player game. No nonsense, a proper game even if not perfect. Squadrons is flawed and made on a small budget, but decent to.

EA actually has the ability to make more than one game. Ubisoft does the same open world crap for every game. Their announcement for an open world Star Wars game is just disappointing. Fallen Order did everything 90% of all open world games do, without the nonsense. This just screams Assassin's Creed: Star Wars. Filled with an annoying co-op mode and design decisions based around co-op and micro transactions.

Ubisoft at one point used to have a diverse type of games but that stopped over a decade ago. Everything is pretty much the same. Say what you want about EA because they're far from perfect, but they would've done better than Ubisoft.
 
Well it’s not exclusive, looks like they are shopping around. But if they were to take The Division 2, and re-skin the whole thing to be starwars themed it would still be pretty awesome. Or Assassins Creed : Mandolorian...
If anything this lets Disney say “Hey these guys did a great job on game X, thing they would make us a StarWars one” and pick who can give them the results for the story they cooked up.
Because I’m sure Disney wants to keep things all canon for their collective universe.
 
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Flogger23m said:
Ubisoft does the same open world crap for every game.
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Well, that's good news for them, because they'll probably make a ton of money off this. What, PC Gamers and/or Star Wars fans are gonna sit out on a game just because it's a buggy crapfest?
 
Armenius said:
What? Jedi: Fallen Order has sold more than 12 million copies to-date, exceeding EA's expectations. It was the second best selling game behind Modern Warfare 2019 in the 12-month period of November 2019 through October 2020.
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Well shit, I mean I played and liked it as part of my Play Subscription I didn’t think it had done well, I am very happy to be wrong on that. So if EA were to make a sequel I’ll get on board.
 
Flogger23m said:
This is terrible news. EA screws up a lot, and like all major publishers/developers they aren't ideal. But they have a far better track record than Ubisoft. Less microtransactions in most of their games (obviously Battlefront 2 was an outlier) and a commitment to keep that stuff to a minimum in the future. Fallen Order was a decent game, and a proper action adventure single player game. No nonsense, a proper game even if not perfect. Squadrons is flawed and made on a small budget, but decent to.

EA actually has the ability to make more than one game. Ubisoft does the same open world crap for every game. Their announcement for an open world Star Wars game is just disappointing. Fallen Order did everything 90% of all open world games do, without the nonsense. This just screams Assassin's Creed: Star Wars. Filled with an annoying co-op mode and design decisions based around co-op and micro transactions.

Ubisoft at one point used to have a diverse type of games but that stopped over a decade ago. Everything is pretty much the same. Say what you want about EA because they're far from perfect, but they would've done better than Ubisoft.
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Lol, EA games are shit 99% of the time so why does it matter. EA only makes good games by accident (pretty much literally), and the dice engine is pretty subpar imho.
 
Aireoth said:
Lol, EA games are shit 99% of the time so why does it matter. EA only makes good games by accident (pretty much literally), and the dice engine is pretty subpar imho.
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You don't have to like EA, but overall their games are a lot more varied. Everything from Ubisoft is blending together. Even with Far Cry, 5 and New Dawn inched closer to what Assassin's Creed is.
 
Perhaps it's just the Gaul in me but I prefer Ubi games over EA games. Though Jedi: Fallen Order was a reasonable Uncharted/Tomb Raider clone.
 
I don't see Ubisoft making a better SW game than EA. At best they'll do a another Division/Wildlands/Breakpoint-like game with a Star Wars skin.
 
Flogger23m said:
You don't have to like EA, but overall their games are a lot more varied. Everything from Ubisoft is blending together. Even with Far Cry, 5 and New Dawn inched closer to what Assassin's Creed is.
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Its not about liking, their recent history of games are literally trash tier garbage outside of a few accidents.

I don't understand your position, because of one good game (fallen order) doesn't mean shit.

Battlefield has been ruined, Battlefront is a joke, mass effect is trash, anthem lol (bioware is dead), EA has nothing except for Respawn.

Sure, Ubi sucks, but a change is way better than sitting with EA waiting another decade for an accidental good game.

Varied does not equal good, I can give you a plethora of varied shit, yet you will still have nothing but shit.
 
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Aireoth said:
Sure, Ubi sucks, but a change is way better than sitting with EA waiting another decade for an accidental good game.
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But the same can be said for Ubisoft. At least EA is trying to make a difference, with ironically their two big departures being Star Wars games. Their recent efforts have been a nice change in the right direction.

Ubisoft meanwhile just added microtransactions into their newest SP game, AC Valhalla. Ubisoft has shown zero interest in changing course. So I still stand by what I said earlier.
 
Flogger23m said:
This is terrible news. EA screws up a lot, and like all major publishers/developers they aren't ideal. But they have a far better track record than Ubisoft. Less microtransactions in most of their games (obviously Battlefront 2 was an outlier) and a commitment to keep that stuff to a minimum in the future. Fallen Order was a decent game, and a proper action adventure single player game. No nonsense, a proper game even if not perfect. Squadrons is flawed and made on a small budget, but decent to.

EA actually has the ability to make more than one game. Ubisoft does the same open world crap for every game. Their announcement for an open world Star Wars game is just disappointing. Fallen Order did everything 90% of all open world games do, without the nonsense. This just screams Assassin's Creed: Star Wars. Filled with an annoying co-op mode and design decisions based around co-op and micro transactions.

Ubisoft at one point used to have a diverse type of games but that stopped over a decade ago. Everything is pretty much the same. Say what you want about EA because they're far from perfect, but they would've done better than Ubisoft.
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You misunderstand why this is the good news. The news isn't that Ubisoft is making a Star Wars game, the news is that EA's exclusive stranglehold over the license is over. Now anyone, be it Ubisoft or CDProjekt or so on, can rent the license and make a SW game. This is good and what fans have been begging for long time. Ubisoft just happened to be the first.
 
Flogger23m said:
But the same can be said for Ubisoft. At least EA is trying to make a difference, with ironically their two big departures being Star Wars games. Their recent efforts have been a nice change in the right direction.

Ubisoft meanwhile just added microtransactions into their newest SP game, AC Valhalla. Ubisoft has shown zero interest in changing course. So I still stand by what I said earlier.
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I only think their recent Star Wars content has been good because Disney was holding a knife to them demanding better. Disney has been known to terminate contracts and tank a lawsuit rather than let somebody continue to tarnish their IP with substandard merchandise.
It wasn’t so long ago that they were threatening to force SWTOR offline if they didn’t shape some things up and then the whole BF2 debacle with their P2W loot crates happened and things got really ugly. It was only then that EA managed to get their act together after the share holders held a vote to deny the CEO and the upper management their bonuses. Despite the fact that they had turned a large profit because they felt they hand done so at the expense of the brand.
 
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MaZa said:
You misunderstand why this is the good news. The news isn't that Ubisoft is making a Star Wars game, the news is that EA's exclusive stranglehold over the license is over. Now anyone, be it Ubisoft or CDProjekt or so on, can rent the license and make a SW game. This is good and what fans have been begging for long time. Ubisoft just happened to be the first.
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And I can’t be the only one to think that Assassins Creed: Mandalorian wouldn’t be dope.
Or Eidos doing a Hitman game where you play an IG-88 wouldn’t be sweet.
But since we know it’s being done in Snowdrop, it’s probably going to be a Division style shooter, there’s been lots of talk about the Republic Commando series on sites lately and that would fit.
 
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harmattan said:
Ubisoft will without a doubt shoehorn the IP into the camp-conquer model they've been milking in every one of their AAAs since 2007. The first game will almost certainly be Far Cry with new skins.

For me in any case, having Star Wars associated with a game is a total turn off at this point.
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Bigbacon said:
so we get a Far Cry Star War reskin?
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SeymourGore said:
I want to pretend I'm not interested in those concepts... but I kinda am.
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I'm with SeymourGore on this one. While initially I might think I'd be turned off, I'd definitely play a Star Wars Far Cry-esque game and probably like it a lot.
 
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Lakados said:
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And I can’t be the only one to think that Assassins Creed: Mandalorian wouldn’t be dope.
Or Eidos doing a Hitman game where you play an IG-88 wouldn’t be sweet.
But since we know it’s being done in Snowdrop, it’s probably going to be a Division style shooter, there’s been lots of talk about the Republic Commando series on sites lately and that would fit.
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We don't know if Snowdrop can't diversify. No reason an engine can't be used for a different game. Look what EA did with Frostbite. Besides, there are already other games that use the engine:
  • Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle
  • South Park: The Fractured But Whole
  • Starlink: Battle for Atlas
And there are more coming.

https://www.massive.se/project/snowdrop-engine/
kirbyrj said:
I'm with SeymourGore on this one. While initially I might think I'd be turned off, I'd definitely play a Star Wars Far Cry-esque game and probably like it a lot.
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Frankly, I think I'd like any style of Ubisoft game with Star Wars content.
 
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