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yeah - still available, but prices = eeek.
i just want a plain jane reference model for less than 300 markup over MSRP. I'm sure they will sellout even at those prices.
 
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yeah - still available, but prices = eeek.
i just want a plain jane reference model for less than 300 markup over MSRP. I'm sure they will sellout even at those prices.
Yeah, unfortunately the tariffs have given them free reign to redefine MSRP. I would not expect prices to drop even after tariff relief given the demand. Sad time for gaming.
 
To my knowledge, BB is now pick-up only.



Right now its very risky to sell these cards on eBay because of potential scams. The shortage has turned somewhat normal people to desperate measures. To many folks, the idea of scamming or 'getting even' with a scalper is rather easy to justify.

If someone with a decent multi-year track record decides to scam you (claim it was not what they received), there is little recourse that can be done because the eBay algorithm has determined they are 'trusted'. And by default, a trusted buyer will have an extremely high chance of winning an arbitration.

I would not sell these cards on eBay period. The prices there reflect the risk. Think of how many scalped GPU's you'd have to sell to break even after being scammed a RTX 3090. Therefore, in order to make a profit, you need to have an expected value to match.

Part of my is still surprised that Ebay is that kind of shithole...part of me is most certainly not. I've seen some scams over the years but provided they're not international and (at least in the past) there was some sort of "seller protection" qualification, I don't know how Ebay can continue to allow people to just claim "Didn't receive it / wasn't what I ordered etc.." , or paying for it using an unauthorized/stolen transaction or account etc... and the seller just has to eat it (assuming they're a "normal" positive rep individual account, not some sort of super-seller business who I'm sure get different rules and deference in their favor) ? I've been an infrequent user of Ebay in general, but it seems crazy that such a thing can happen even if you take a picture of the item, take a picture of it at the post office or wherever you're shipping it from in its box, provide tracking etc. Perhaps you can even take the new item and open it up just to photograph the actual card inside so they can't claim it was something else or a brick etc? I mean, I get that buyers can get screwed too or that unauthorized purchases can come into effect but it seems like something that shouldn't fall on either one party or the other - with Ebay themselves covering the cost so they don't enable such scams - if it appears that neither party did anything "wrong" as it were.

Then again poking around Ebay and having not even looked at the costs of listing in years, it seems they've gotten even shiftier than I remember. If you want to list an auction-style item, they specifically make it so that you have to list the starting price a significant way away from the buy-it-now price, likely so they can push for what seems to be a 8% cost of the item in order to activate the "reserve price" feature! I'm not even sure if that reserve price fee is only if the item sells or if its a listing fee. Regardless, they've set it up so that especially on a higher value item you need to risk selling an item way below where you'd prefer, or pay a huge fee to create a reserve. It used to be that the only thing you had to risk for having a start price and a buy-it-now price rather close together was less marketing clout so people didn't see "oooh, super cheap item! better bid!" - but there was no forced gap between the two! Not to mention the listing fees and the amount of sold-item fees, it seems Ebay is just a total shitshow - except people seem to be selling there scalping or otherwise.

Oh yes, and seeing Newegg hawking their products on Ebay at increased prices while not keeping them in stock on their own store, makes me recall how they've fallen since the new ownership. Sigh, frustrating all around.
 
I bit on the 6900XT. I got a 6800 from Amazon on launch day, even then they charged $680+tax for a total of $730. I ordered an Asus Strix LC 6800XT from ShopBLT on Dec 10 and the ETA keeps moving. Might as well go for the trifecta. At least the 6900XT should arrive while I can still return the 6800 to Amazon.

Now I need to know if that Asrock uses the reference PCB and if not, is there a waterblock for it?
 
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For the last few weeks I've been waking up automatically at 8 on Tuesdays. My brain already knows to get up to check Best Buy. I noticed that the MSI 3080 raised it's price to $959.99. fu..
 
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That sold out in 3 minutes.
 
For the last few weeks I've been waking up automatically at 8 on Tuesdays. My brain already knows to get up to check Best Buy. I noticed that the MSI 3080 raised it's price to $959.99. fu..

yep other then the founders edition everyone else raised their MSRP on best buy. Nvidia sort of has to stick with that price due to being MSRP. But AIBs are raping wallets right now. I don't even know if its all Terrifs and shit, i think most of it is just an opportunity to grab extra cash while they can.
 
Dang they marked it up again from $329.98 a few weeks ago for the 5600X.
 
Damn that almost makes me want to get that system started... however pairing this with my gtx970 might be a bit laughable :D

Why? I had my 3900x paired with an R9 290 up until this past weekend. The new CPU definitely helped some of my workloads go MUCH faster.
 
Maybe I'm missing something here... the MSRP of the 5600x is $300... so how TF is it a $150 savings when it is priced at $300?
 
Frankly, I want to express that we should not be so fixated at the MSRP anymore. Clearly, NVIDIA and AMD pricing departments made mistakes in pricing their products. As we can see consumers' willingness to pay are much higher than the MSRP. Therefore, NVIDIA and AMD will and should adjust their MSRP (okay, should - means for their companies' benefits, not for consumers) such that they don't leave too much money on the table. Some people are saying the MSRP are fake. They are not fake. I believe both companies are as surprised as we are that the consumers' willingness to pay are much higher. How much higher? We will see, but from what I can see, probably 15-25% higher than the current MSRP.
 
Frankly, I want to express that we should not be so fixated at the MSRP anymore. Clearly, NVIDIA and AMD pricing departments made mistakes in pricing their products. As we can see consumers' willingness to pay are much higher than the MSRP. Therefore, NVIDIA and AMD will and should adjust their MSRP (okay, should - means for their companies' benefits, not for consumers) such that they don't leave too much money on the table. Some people are saying the MSRP are fake. They are not fake. I believe both companies are as surprised as we are that the consumers' willingness to pay are much higher. How much higher? We will see, but from what I can see, probably 15-25% higher than the current MSRP.
They're willing to pay much higher given today's market and today's availability. The MSRP is likely formulated with the assumption that they'll be able to meet the market's demand because there won't be massive manufacturing issues. Right now the problems nvidia and AMD are having with supply seem to be related to material and fab capacity.

It makes complete sense for them to raise prices given those market realities, but I bet AMD would rather sell ten million 5900Xs at $540 than 1 million of them at $700. The short term gains of making more money per item is offset right now by making less money because they're moving less product, and in the future by a loss of goodwill as the market returns to an equilibrium and competitors release products that compete better to a community that is weary of greedy corporations raising prices. Eventually Rocket Lake will launch and probably be similar in many applications to the 5800x and 5600x, and if AMD allows Intel to look good in the pricing and availability department it won't be a good thing for them.
 
If Rocket lake can hang or even best Ryzen 5000 you know Intel is going to price it higher. Worst case scenario for us is that both AMD and Intel raise prices together.
 
They're willing to pay much higher given today's market and today's availability. The MSRP is likely formulated with the assumption that they'll be able to meet the market's demand because there won't be massive manufacturing issues. Right now the problems nvidia and AMD are having with supply seem to be related to material and fab capacity.

It makes complete sense for them to raise prices given those market realities, but I bet AMD would rather sell ten million 5900Xs at $540 than 1 million of them at $700. The short term gains of making more money per item is offset right now by making less money because they're moving less product, and in the future by a loss of goodwill as the market returns to an equilibrium and competitors release products that compete better to a community that is weary of greedy corporations raising prices. Eventually Rocket Lake will launch and probably be similar in many applications to the 5800x and 5600x, and if AMD allows Intel to look good in the pricing and availability department it won't be a good thing for them.

You mentioned equilibrium. I feel the new increased prices will be the new equilibrium. Cost has gone up, as TSMC no longer offers discount to anyone anymore. We also have tariff that just went into effect. Frankly, before the pandemic, etc. I actually feel the price for computing is actually a bit on the cheap side. Do you think Intel will cut prices? I seriously doubt it...
 
Frankly, I want to express that we should not be so fixated at the MSRP anymore. Clearly, NVIDIA and AMD pricing departments made mistakes in pricing their products. As we can see consumers' willingness to pay are much higher than the MSRP. Therefore, NVIDIA and AMD will and should adjust their MSRP (okay, should - means for their companies' benefits, not for consumers) such that they don't leave too much money on the table. Some people are saying the MSRP are fake. They are not fake. I believe both companies are as surprised as we are that the consumers' willingness to pay are much higher. How much higher? We will see, but from what I can see, probably 15-25% higher than the current MSRP.
agreed mostly, but we know from last gen that people were willing to pay $800 for 2080 level performance and $1500 for 2080TI level performance.

Given that the performance moved forward on Ampere so strongly - I was terribly surprised the overall pricing tier didn't go up anyway.
~$900-$1K for 3080 and $1,800-$2k for 3090 (or 3080TI) were my prediction ranges. When they came out at less - I was surprised and excited, but I think that was driven by AMD soon to be releasing their product at still unknown performance levels. Nvidia did NOT want to be second fiddle. So they whacked prices off the obvious trajectory to make sure they weren't the laughing stock when AMD released their fast, and inexpensive cards.

I agree completely that next gen - MSRP prices will move upwards once more. Both AMD and Nvidia realize they left a lot of money on the table this round. You've already seen AMD raising their CPU pricing tier with the 5xxx series Ryzens. Nvidia's only obstacle to having higher prices with Ampere was AMD's unknown.
 
This is messed up. You have to win a raffle to spend money?Anyway, for fun -
 
Thank you for entering Newegg Shuffle. We will notify you the result at 01/20/2021 02:00:00 PM PST.

Well it’s 217 PM PST.. Anyone “win?”
 
I didn't even see anyone respond with a definite yes in the discord chat I'm using. So, we probably broke it.
 
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