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Yeah I agree can’t wait until it is all automated!That is alot of items to process for an hour I mean Walmart they give you 60 boxes per hour and nobody can do that I know of.
But it's different taking items out of a box and stocking on the shelves but the boxing of items at Amazon looks like the hardest part.
They did mention the part where if they make a mistake they could be fired. No more than 1 mistake per 2,200 boxes. I can't make one box without screwing up, let alone over 2,000 of them. The sooner Amazon gets automated the better is it for humanity.Hummm.... interesting that this video failed to mention the horrible working conditions in their warehouses....
Like the warehouses being so large while having a very limited number of restrooms and eating areas, 99% of which are located at the very outer perimeters of the buildings, meaning that the vast majority of employees who work in the middle of the building have to use all of their break or meal times just to go to & return from the restroom/eating areas, without ever getting any time for an actual break or meal period...
But at least they got in the part about the large numbers of accidents/injuries/ambulance visits, so there's that, hehehe
They did mention the part where if they make a mistake they could be fired. No more than 1 mistake per 2,200 boxes. I can't make one box without screwing up, let alone over 2,000 of them. The sooner Amazon gets automated the better is it for humanity.
There's a huge gray area for sure. I am with you in spirit, but I suspect a pedant could tease apart your sentence and say things like "sewing machines are nice though, right?".I don't like automation. Puts people out of a job.
I don't like automation. Puts people out of a job.
Thats good.Automation gives me a very high paying job.
Thats good.
Congratulations. What exactly do you work on?Indeed it is. I have a brain. I'm not lazy. I went to community college and got a certificate in Industrial Maintenance: electrical engineering technologies. I make 100k.
Congratulations. What exactly do you work on?
I'm not sure I'd want my son to work there, either.They have like 10 seconds to do it they just use a mailing envelope for something like a SSD. I wouldnt want my parents to work there.
Yeah no kidding.I'm not sure I'd want my son to work there, either.
This is a great example of why I feel that automation and UBI are the way of the future. I'd rather Amazon fully automate their warehouse's, while paying people a UBI.
No just fucking no.This is a great example of why I feel that automation and UBI are the way of the future. I'd rather Amazon fully automate their warehouse's, while paying people a UBI.
This is a great example of why I feel that automation and UBI are the way of the future. I'd rather Amazon fully automate their warehouse's, while paying people a UBI.
Nope to UBI, I am not going to take money from them so they can tell me how I should and should not live.
Less Wrong had a story about the implications of this a few years ago. Can't find it now, unfortunately. But the idea was someone came up with software they started using at a fast food place, where it learned how long it took employees to do stuff, and then started "optimizing" so it had them working pretty much the entire shift. The bottom line went up so much that pretty much every company gradually started using it...and then everyone who couldn't keep up started getting laid off. In the end nearly the entire population of the US wound up in projects, guarded by robots to keep them from fighting, because the daily dole--sorry, UBI--didn't go far enough for anyone to be able to afford to go anywhere and do anything. Pretty grim. The alternative presented to the narrator at the end was a totalitarian's wet dream.Amazon gave warehouse tours here locally. Impressive to say the least.
And yes, it's a job were no social interaction is possible except between managers during your shift. Amazon gets the most out of each worker.
Each worker is spaced about 20ft apart while they stock or fill orders. The bots line up so fast there's no time to take a break, they work no-stop until their break/clock-out time.
This argument has been made ever since Ford invented assembly line. We can't automate because of the jobs! It's never been true. If anything, automation and increased productivity have made more people rise out of poverty."muhh socialism'" ..
Cool, you don't have to but others will. Most likely hundreds of millions of others will (should automation come in so fast that they don't have time to adjust.) Peoples principles die off pretty quick when faced with the choice of sharing rotten garbage out of a bin with their children or accepting a universal system of income.
im not advocating it as the solution, but we appear to be reaching a point of no return with automation.
This argument has been made ever since Ford invented assembly line. We can't automate because of the jobs! It's never been true. If anything, automation and increased productivity have made more people rise out of poverty.
There was great social unrest during transition phase of the industrial revolution thought.This argument has been made ever since Ford invented assembly line. We can't automate because of the jobs! It's never been true. If anything, automation and increased productivity have made more people rise out of poverty.
And when the factories shut down because the jobs move over seas or the companies decide to employ illegals at lower wages, the rise in poverty begins anew.This argument has been made ever since Ford invented assembly line. We can't automate because of the jobs! It's never been true. If anything, automation and increased productivity have made more people rise out of poverty.
That's because most people had a farm and didn't have to pay property taxes.This argument has been made ever since Ford invented assembly line. We can't automate because of the jobs! It's never been true. If anything, automation and increased productivity have made more people rise out of poverty.
We can't agree on Unions. We can't agree on minimum wage. Americans can't even have a free health care system. Yet you're worried about the government having control over you? The elite already have control over the government. We Americans need to fix out democracy, not ignore it and hope the government doesn't control us because free money. How many people didn't accept the $1,400 check?Nope to UBI, I am not going to take money from them so they can tell me how I should and should not live. I work hard and earn my money, everyone else should as well, if they can. And no, that does not mean allowing an employer to treat you like used garbage, either.
Which is when people go work at a dead end job like Amazon and work for 10 hours straight for 4 days. They don't keep employee's for more than 2 years, and they try to push you harder to fulfill orders. What a waste of human life. They know they'll have their warehouses nearly automated because I can't imagine having a turn over rate like that is going to last for Amazon.And when the factories shut down because the jobs move over seas or the companies decide to employ illegals at lower wages, the rise in poverty begins anew.
Not really. US has offshored most of it's production yet somehow we manage near full employment. The same will be true what else gets moved. Jobs aren't static, and new ones always get created so long as the barriers to hire are low.And when the factories shut down because the jobs move over seas or the companies decide to employ illegals at lower wages, the rise in poverty begins anew.
That's because most people had a farm and didn't have to pay property taxes.
We can't agree on Unions. We can't agree on minimum wage. Americans can't even have a free health care system. Yet you're worried about the government having control over you? The elite already have control over the government. We Americans need to fix out democracy, not ignore it and hope the government doesn't control us because free money. How many people didn't accept the $1,400 check?
Which is when people go work at a dead end job like Amazon and work for 10 hours straight for 4 days. They don't keep employee's for more than 2 years, and they try to push you harder to fulfill orders. What a waste of human life. They know they'll have their warehouses nearly automated because I can't imagine having a turn over rate like that is going to last for Amazon.