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Console devs have certain CPU IPC and GPU performance at their disposal with the PS5 and XBOX Series X. The XBOX is the better of the two, but it's only running an optimized Zen 2 with no boost clock. Per other discussions, it is a 3700Xish processor but no boost and low power limit. The Zen 3 IPC on the 6-core 5600X at stock, under stock boost, and especially when overclocked will surpass whatever the consoles deliver with "8 cores" and this will be forever. The lack of boost clock will just kill consoles compared to what we can run on PC.
Not even remotely true unless by mirrored you mean PC gaming is historically held back by consoles.
What CPU did you upgrade from? Has the FPS been noticeably higher?
That's purely because the game doesn't scale at all after adding more than 12 threads. Of course at that point the IPC gains over Zen 2 are what you see as the difference.
what you mean when you say that 6c12t zen 3 slams 8c16t zen 2 ??
You don't seem to be reading anything in the thread and with that I wish you luck.
Read my above reply to answer you
so if I read it correctly, you would recommend 8 core (to be on the safe side)?
Yes and no
Depends on how long you keep a setup around. If you get the "itch" and upgrade every year or two just go with 6 unless you have non-gaming uses in mind for more cores. Thinking back to the benchmarks I was staring at on Thursday the 3700X and i7-10700k (stock clocks) tend to beat a 5600X in a lot of heavily threaded non-gaming apps but get beat by the 5600X in games. Nice IPC bump on Zen 3 but not enough to make up for 33% more cores in apps that really use them. If you're looking to future proof and keep it until it annoys you I'd go with 8 since that's what the next batch of consoles are using. The catch is we won't see games that really need that for a bit. A lot of the launches in the next year or two will also come out for the old Consoles, plus game devs try to make things work ok for the installed base. A lot of that is quad cores.
1440p streaming is highly limited in what platforms will accept that bandwidth for transcoding.
Price is another issue with Zen 3 for builds that aren't about gaming, especially if you have a local Microcenter around. I wouldn't buy a 5800X for content creation. I'd get a 12-core 3900X at my local Microcenter for $400 and use the $50 saved by buying a more powerful chip on something else. Or just spend it on beer. No Microcenter? Newegg has the 3900X for $460 and I bet you can do better elsewhere. Same with new 6 cores vs old 8 cores. 3800X is $300 and 3700X is $280 at Microcenter. More at Newegg, but they haven't had the best prices for a long time. Might even want to check Best Buy. Best Buy beats Newegg prices on the 3700X by $20 and $5 on the 3800X.
Early indications are also showing lower temps as well, which could be useful (like me in my mini itx). 9700k @ 5ghz is not as friendly to my case or PSU. Anyways, honestly, 6/12 will probably be about it in gaming for some time. I don't think there is much to gain from 8 cores in current or soon to be games. I bought a 3700x because I do blender and some transcoding stuff as well, and a 65w 8-core was hard to pass up for $260 on sale. It's much easier for me to pass on a $450 8 core that draws more power. If they release a 5700x @ $350 and 65w I might upgrad again. Otherwise I think the 3600x for a gaming build is the current sweet spot. If you have other uses for the cores than sure, just for gaming I wouldn't bother personally, but to each their own.
I could be wrong but it seem that it is more about multi-core performance than multicore count that is the main variable, i.e. no gaming scenario for which a 3700 will ever beat a 5600.