Official NVIDIA Ampere In-Stock Thread

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I signed up for a notification 2 weeks ago I think on EVGA's website...can't remember which card though. Shall see if I ever see anything in the inbox. I still have a "pre-order" at B&H on an Asus card and they confirmed the order is valid...they just dont know when Asus is stocking them. So at this point its a race between B&H and EVGA for me at least.
 
I pre-ordered on Tiger Direct and sign up for Notification on evga in the 3090. Let see how long it takes

Currently using onboard video. 980 Ti was showing artifacts.
 
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Going to make this more hilarious if this is the ONLY way to get a 3080/3090 from Newegg & the Power supplies go out of stock while the RTX 3080/3090 are in stock :). In other news, Best buy has an RTX 3090 (OOS of course) that I can use my Birthday coupon on that would be $1350+tax..! Would you guys do it for $1350 ?
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No. 3090 doesn't seem worth it. The Asus Strix OC comes within spitting distance of the 3090 for a little over half the price.
 
I personally wouldn't "pre-order" from Tiger Direct or CDW - apparently they are saying they will ship cards and then when the date rolls around they just say they still don't have any. Some people are saying they are being told out to December or later.
 
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I personally wouldn't "pre-order" from Tiger Direct or CDW - apparently they are saying they will ship cards and then when the date rolls around they just say they still don't have any. Some people are saying they are being told out to December or later.
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wow...that wold piss me off for sure.
 
At this point your best bet might be the EVGA queue. Someone in the Discord was saying they got the email and they signed up for notify on launch day.
 
EVGA's plan already working.Not mine, someone from of the discord's I'm in. Even better the bot boys are bitching. Yes give me more tears.
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I actually want the 3090 more for the 24GB ram than anything else, but if i have to wait i'll go for the supposed 20GB 3080 (Ti?) down the road. (Unless it's a lot more expensive than the current 3080 that is)
 
kamxam said:
I actually want the 3090 more for the 24GB ram than anything else, but if i have to wait i'll go for the supposed 20GB 3080 (Ti?) down the road. (Unless it's a lot more expensive than the current 3080 that is)
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Where do you draw the line at a lot?
 
As if it's close to the 3090 price rather than closer to the current 3080 prices. (Maybe a $1000 or so if it's a souped up 3080?) ;)
 
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I actually want the 3090 more for the 24GB ram than anything else, but if i have to wait i'll go for the supposed 20GB 3080 (Ti?) down the road. (Unless it's a lot more expensive than the current 3080 that is)
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It's probably going to be almost 50 percent more expensive. I'll be going for the 10gb as a long time 4k player.
 
I figure i can use the 2080Ti and wait a while. (Unless by some miracle i lose my mind and impulse buy a 3090...lol)
 
I'm actually going to wait for the AMD Big Navi announcement at this point. The reality is that I probably won't be able to get my hand on a 3080 or 3090 by the end of October anyway so I'll sit back and see how this all plays out.
 
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I'm actually going to wait for the AMD Big Navi announcement at this point. The reality is that I probably won't be able to get my hand on a 3080 or 3090 by the end of October anyway so I'll sit back and see how this all plays out.
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Is a good plan. Worst that happens is the Big Navi is a complete bust, nVidia doesn't change their pricing at all, and things are then as they are now. Best case is Big Navi is great and forces nVidia to lower prices and then you then have a great choice between two great cards.
 
kamxam said:
I actually want the 3090 more for the 24GB ram than anything else, but if i have to wait i'll go for the supposed 20GB 3080 (Ti?) down the road. (Unless it's a lot more expensive than the current 3080 that is)
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I doubt we'll see a "Ti" or "Super" variant of the 3080. It'll likely just be a 10GB and 20GB variant with the same performance. The 3080 is only 10-15% behind a 3090 so there is no room for an incremental step of performance between them.
 
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Is a good plan. Worst that happens is the Big Navi is a complete bust, nVidia doesn't change their pricing at all, and things are then as they are now. Best case is Big Navi is great and forces nVidia to lower prices and then you then have a great choice between two great cards.
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Either way, some people will still likely opt for AMD so it might dilute the pool of 3000-series buyers a bit. Plus hopefully by then we will have more stock coming in.
 
Sycraft said:
Is a good plan. Worst that happens is the Big Navi is a complete bust, nVidia doesn't change their pricing at all, and things are then as they are now. Best case is Big Navi is great and forces nVidia to lower prices and then you then have a great choice between two great cards.
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i really highly doubt Nvidia lowers their prices. I think they are creating an artificial demand to keep their prices or even raise them so even if AMD is competitive it seems like their cards in super high demand to create more demand lol. I think if they thought AMD wasn't competitive they wouldn't have dropped 3080 at 699.99. It probably would have been 3080ti at 999.99 minimum.
 
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i really highly doubt Nvidia lowers their prices. I think they are creating an artificial demand to keep their prices or even raise them so even if AMD is competitive it seems like their cards in super high demand to create more demand lol. I think if they thought AMD wasn't competitive they wouldn't have dropped 3080 at 699.99. It probably would have been 3080ti at 999.99 minimum.
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Even with the power draw I see the 3080 as a $899 normally from Nvidia, I think they moved it to the 102 chip out of what they heard AMD had.
 
Mylex said:
Even with the power draw I see the 3080 as a $899 normally from Nvidia, I think they moved it to the 102 chip out of what they heard AMD had.
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Yea videocardz is tweeting Nvidia jebaited amd with bunch of bullet points and one was lowering rtx3080 price lol. I commented no way in hell nvidia lowers price if they know AMD isn't competing at top end lol. Not their style to lower price launching first. Haha.
 
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Yea videocardz is tweeting Nvidia jebaited amd with bunch of bullet points and one was lowering rtx3080 price lol. I commented no way in hell nvidia lowers price if they know AMD isn't competing at top end lol. Not their style to lower price launching first. Haha.
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Sad if this is true, shows serious incompetence in my opinion as well.

NVIDIA jebaited AMD. - Big Navi perf target was GA104. - NVIDIA upgraded 3080 to GA102 - AMD now targets 3070 - NVIDIA announced Ampere at lower than expected price - AMD announced Oct 28 event - NVIDIA postponed the launch to Oct 29 Just what we gathered this week from AIBs 🙃
 
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i really highly doubt Nvidia lowers their prices. I think they are creating an artificial demand to keep their prices or even raise them so even if AMD is competitive it seems like their cards in super high demand to create more demand lol. I think if they thought AMD wasn't competitive they wouldn't have dropped 3080 at 699.99. It probably would have been 3080ti at 999.99 minimum.
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I disagree. I think NVIDIA lowered its prices this go around, not because what AMD is or isn't doing, but because NVIDIA didn't sell nearly as many 20 series cards as they had other series. There was a massive price hike in the 20 series, and it wasn't much of an upgrade over the 10 series that preceded it. The Steam hardware survey was pretty eye opening on that. The top two offerings were damn near double that of their predecessors. It's not surprising most people skipped it. I bought two 1080 Ti's, so the only upgrade for me was a single RTX 2080 Ti, which was only an upgrade in that I gained ray tracing and got to drop to one card to avoid SLI's issues. That said, it wasn't really an upgrade in some games as the 1080 Ti setup was faster where SLI worked.

On release, the GTX 1080 Ti was $799.99 for the Founder's Editions direct from NVIDIA. $699.99 for reference boards. The Titan X and later Titan Xp, were about $1,200 on release. The Titan V launched at $3,000. It's successor dropped to $2,499.99. NVIDIA's RTX 2080 Ti, dropped at $1,199.99. Again, the cards didn't seem to sell all that well.

It seemed to me that Turing was damn near double what Pascal and Maxwell GPU's cost. I think NVIDIA tried doubling the price because there were people like me that used to buy these cards in pairs. They figured we'd go ahead and pay the same prices for a single card. I'm sure there were people like me who did exactly that. However, I think NVIDIA over estimated what people would pay. Also, there were many people who bought two lower end cards and put them in SLI to get big dog performance in a cheaper package split into two separate purchases. Potentially, over time. NVIDIA might have thought those people would pay more as well and they didn't.

Now, it might not be that NVIDIA raised prices so high simply because SLI was no longer a thing. I think Turing was probably more expensive to produce than earlier cards, probably because they were on a 12nm process. Those are monstrous dies. I also think those cards were more expensive in general as their PCB's were huge and they had pretty beefy VRM's as well.

I think NVIDIA cut the prices on Ampere because the 20 series didn't do all that well (if the Steam hardware survey holds any credence) and it's because it was a poor upgrade over Pascal. Anyone who had a 1080, or 1080 Ti, really didn't get much of an upgrade out of Turing because it pushed you into an insane price hike for a relatively small improvement. With the 30 series, we see a much larger performance increase and many people avoided Turing, so they haven't had an upgrade in awhile. It's actually not totally shocking that NVIDIA was caught off guard with the demand. I don't think they could have predicted it, even though I think they knew it was going to be well received.

Simply put, going from a 1080 Ti to a RTX 2080 Ti at double the price wasn't appealing. The standard 2080 was also at 1080 Ti pricing, and didn't offer any real upgrade other than the RTX feature. Even then, the cards are arguably too slow at times to even leverage that. So, not a big reason to upgrade. We also see evidence of cost cutting with the 30 series PCB designs to get them into a lower price point. I think NVIDIA realized it went too far on Turing prices and pulled back. But again, I don't think it's out of fear from what Big Navi brings to the table. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
 
Dan_D said:
How about this? NVIDIA lowered prices this generation because the 20 series didn't sell worth a shit and it has nothing to do with AMD.
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I definitely agree with the poor 20 series adoption carrying alot of weight but I don't discount them seeing a pulse in their competitor.
 
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Mylex said:
I definitely agree with the poor 20 series adoption carrying appt of weight but I don't discount them seeing a pulse in their competitor.
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The only place where NVIDIA should probably be concerned with AMD is where the RTX 3070 and 3060 cards sit. I seriously doubt that Big Navi can challenge the 3080. We've seen nothing from Navi in the past to suggest it can scale that well. It's horribly inefficient to boot. That's why we didn't see a scaled up Big Navi back when the 5700XT launched.
 
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The only place where NVIDIA should probably be concerned with AMD is where the RTX 3070 and 3060 cards sit. I seriously doubt that Big Navi can challenge the 3080. We've seen nothing from Big Navi in the past to suggest it can scale that well. It's horribly inefficient to boot. That's why we didn't see a scaled up Big Navi back when the 5700XT launched.
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I can believe the scaling issues we heard before it launched, if they could have at the time it surely would've had more CU's from the initial launch.
 
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How about this? NVIDIA lowered prices this generation because the 20 series didn't sell worth a shit and it has nothing to do with AMD.
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Its possible but I'll wait until they release the prices for the rest of the stack. All we have right now is the high end and halo top card prices. A $499 3070 isn't really lowering prices, still with only 8GB ram too.

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The only place where NVIDIA should probably be concerned with AMD is where the RTX 3070 and 3060 cards sit. I seriously doubt that Big Navi can challenge the 3080. We've seen nothing from Navi in the past to suggest it can scale that well. It's horribly inefficient to boot. That's why we didn't see a scaled up Big Navi back when the 5700XT launched.
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Or the already late 5700 cards had technical issues that didn't make it worthwhile to produce a big navi last year. Hence the Radeon VII early on in the year. Toss in the driver issues they had on rdna 1.0 cards and why bother putting something out that needs more work and will be overshadowed in a year by Ampere.
 
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Its possible but I'll wait until they release the prices for the rest of the stack. All we have right now is the high end and halo top card prices. A $499 3070 isn't really lowering prices, still with only 8GB ram too.
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The RTX 2070 was originally priced at $599.99. The RTX 2070 Super did come in at $499.99, so in a sense your right. However, if the top of the stack is roughly half what it was last generation, I think the mid-range should be in a good spot. Of course, this is the area where AMD competes well and it usually drives NVIDIA to be more competitive there.
 
Dan_D said:
The only place where NVIDIA should probably be concerned with AMD is where the RTX 3070 and 3060 cards sit. I seriously doubt that Big Navi can challenge the 3080. We've seen nothing from Navi in the past to suggest it can scale that well. It's horribly inefficient to boot. That's why we didn't see a scaled up Big Navi back when the 5700XT launched.
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All indications point to AMD having large improvements to the power efficiency and clocking ability of their silicon (mobile parts, PS5, rumors/leaks, etc). Yeah, they couldn't do it at launch. Its been over a year.
 
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All indications point to AMD having large improvements to the power efficiency and clocking ability of their silicon (mobile parts, PS5, rumors/leaks, etc). Yeah, they couldn't do it at launch. Its been over a year.
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You don't generally take an architecture with a huge flaw, and completely reverse that with an iteration or two of it. We've seen that countless times in the past. It doesn't work that way. I've no doubt that Navi has been improved, but I'm very skeptical about it being able to compete with NVIDIA's high end offerings. I'd like to be wrong on that, but I seriously doubt it.
 
Dan_D said:
How about this? NVIDIA lowered prices this generation because the 20 series didn't sell worth a shit and it has nothing to do with AMD.
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It may have a little something to do with the console release this year. Xbox Series X is going to basically mostly rival a high end PC gameplay experience and it’s $500 bucks all in.

I skipped Xbox one and I’m a 30+ year PC gamer loyalist, but I will be buying a series X.

I think even PC gamers can get excited about the Xbox GamePass Ultimate value delivery (especially since the games library is available both on PC and console for one price) — and trailers like this make the product look stellar!

 
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Dan_D said:
The only place where NVIDIA should probably be concerned with AMD is where the RTX 3070 and 3060 cards sit. I seriously doubt that Big Navi can challenge the 3080. We've seen nothing from Navi in the past to suggest it can scale that well. It's horribly inefficient to boot. That's why we didn't see a scaled up Big Navi back when the 5700XT launched.
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Where have you been? That’s not a knock but a serious question lol. RDNA 2 is built from ground up. RDNA is not RDNA2. Your statement is only true for RDNA. There has been so much on it. Did you miss it? Just look at Xbox around 170-180w for the GPU and matching 2080super.
 
Dan_D said:
You don't generally take an architecture with a huge flaw, and completely reverse that with an iteration or two of it. We've seen that countless times in the past. It doesn't work that way. I've no doubt that Navi has been improved, but I'm very skeptical about it being able to compete with NVIDIA's high end offerings. I'd like to be wrong on that, but I seriously doubt it.
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That’s the thing you think it’s an iteration of RDNA. Which is false. RDNA 2 is built from ground up. It was already in the works side by side when RDNA was released. It’s not just a slight iteration.
 
NKD said:
That’s the thing you think it’s an iteration of RDNA. Which is false. RDNA 2 is built from ground up. It was already in the works side by side when RDNA was released. It’s not just a slight iteration.
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Even so, I don't expect AMD to leapfrog or even match NVIDIA. NVIDIA has been way ahead of AMD for years. I don't see that changing in a single product generation, iterative or not.
 
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