Confirmed: Xbox Series S Price and Design

D

Derangel

Fully [H]
Joined
Jan 31, 2008
Messages
20,331
EDIT: Rumor no more. Only hours after the leak, Microsoft has confirmed that the Series S is real and that it will launch at $299. They are calling it the "smallest Xbox ever".

https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/1303230071033880576

EhX82n1UYAATqsI?format=jpg&name=4096x4096.jpg

Some more stuff leaked via the Verge:

378924_EhYbNOVXcAI3NOc.jpg

Opinions: Now we can clearly see that it has no disc drive. It's also quite small. Looks like it's barely taller than two of those controllers. If this thing really does pack more power (rumored specs linked in a post below) than the XBX than the form factor is pretty nice. Interesting that they're talking about RT and 4K upscaling. Targeting 1440p is higher than I expected, though I have doubts about "up to 120 fps". That 512GB SSD feels too small for a digital only console. People are either going to need to do a ton of storage management or invest in those, likely expensive, custom add-on drives.



From original post:
Seems like Windows Central is jumping on the leak bandwagon tonight. They previously leaked out accurate Series X specs. Per their article:

November 10th launch for the Series S and Series X.

$499 for the Series X. Both systems will also be part of Microsoft's All Access monthly payment program. $25 a month for the S and $35 a month for the X.
 

Attachments

  • EhW5_eVXgAE5KnL?format=jpg&name=large.jpg
    EhW5_eVXgAE5KnL?format=jpg&name=large.jpg
    117.9 KB · Views: 0
Last edited:
Decent price (hopefully the X will be $499 and not $599). Doesn't look like there's a optical drive, so the discontinuation of the Digital Edition of S makes more sense.

I like the small, rectangular form factor, however the circle vent is a bit jarring.
 
SeymourGore said:
Decent price (hopefully the X will be $499 and not $599). Doesn't look like there's a optical drive, so the discontinuation of the Digital Edition of S makes more sense.

I like the small, rectangular form factor, however the circle vent is a bit jarring.
Click to expand...

I imagine they'll discontinue the entire XB1 line not long after launch. This is the same price as the normal S and cheaper than the One X, yet more powerful than both. No point in having any XB1 systems on store shelves when this is so cheap. Given the price and potential performance of the Series S, it really makes sense why MS pushed internal studios to keep working on XB1 versions of games.
 
Derangel said:
Likely this will be marketed at people who do not have 4K HDR TVs
Click to expand...
Which is stupid because not all games run at 4k or 1080p. When you turn on Ray-Tracing you won't be able to achieve 4k easily even with the Xbox Series X, so I can't imagine this being good for the weaker "S". The PS5 at $400 sounds like a better buy. Also "S" is a stupid letter to choose as people can call it Xbox Series Shit.
and I would imagine they will very heavily push GamePass with this system. There is also a rumor (from Sams) that xCloud servers will get an update and be based on Series S hardware. That would make sense as the current servers are based off the Xbox One S and it will be easier to stream than full Series X titles.
Click to expand...
I've said it many times before and I'll say it again, in that cloud gaming has no future. Therefore the "S" model has no future. When the pandemic started Netflix and YouTube had to limit the stream quality so the services could function. You don't think cloud gaming won't be effected by this? People already forgot about Geforce Now and Stadia. Nvidia's RTX 3000 series is going to have a feature to reduce latency, which is contradicting of their Geforce Now service.
 
Last edited:
Staples said:
And what are the specs? Didn't tell us anything,
Click to expand...

Rumored specs:

EfsIjXJWAAAmNLc?format=jpg&name=medium.jpg

DukenukemX said:
Which is stupid because not all games run at 4k or 1080p. When you turn on Ray-Tracing you won't be able to achieve 4k easily even with the Xbox Series X, so I can't imagine this being good for the weaker "S". The PS5 at $400 sounds like a better buy. Also "S" is a stupid letter to choose as people can call it Xbox Series Shit.

I've said it many times before and I'll say it again, in that cloud gaming has no future. Therefore the "S" model has no future. When the pandemic started Netflix and YouTube had to limit the steam quality so the services could function. You don't think cloud gaming won't be effected by this? People already forgot about Geforce Now and Stadia. Nvidia's RTX 3000 series is going to have a feature to reduce latency.
Click to expand...

I doubt it will even have RT support. I suspect Series S versions of games will be based on Xbox One X versions.

MS including xCloud into GamePass Ultimate gives it the best chance of gaining traction. Whether it will or not guess we'll see. I rather doubt most of the people in the market for a $300 console are going to be buying high-end PC gaming parts.
 
Derangel said:
I imagine they'll discontinue the entire XB1 line not long after launch. This is the same price as the normal S and cheaper than the One X, yet more powerful than both. No point in having any XB1 systems on store shelves when this is so cheap. Given the price and potential performance of the Series S, it really makes sense why MS pushed internal studios to keep working on XB1 versions of games.
Click to expand...

If they enable xcloud on xbone then they can continue selling the xbone, the 4k player adds some value to it purely as a media player

Also decommissioned xbone from xcloud will be sold as refurbished for $200 or less
 
Derangel said:
Rumored specs:

View attachment 277248
Click to expand...

Same CPU, but Xbox S has an even more cut down Navi 2 (5700-level?), no drive, and no fancy storage. I suppose $299 is a viable option for folks who only want a console to play exclusives (like me), and play everything else on PC. I do fear these lower-end models will gimp developers from pushing the envelope, however.

I was excited that consoles were going to have near top-of-the line GPU performance this round (first time since the 360 and PS3), but they look pretty weak compared to what 3080 and Big Navi have in store.
 
harmattan said:
I was excited that consoles were going to have near top-of-the line GPU performance this round (first time since the 360 and PS3), but they look pretty weak compared to what 3080
Click to expand...

Knowing Jensen's ego you shouldn't have expected anything different 😉
 
It's a really dumb move doing this at the start of the gen. If they do release any 'exclusives' they are going to be gimped and designed around the limitations of the lower end series S consoles not the X. Kind of removes any advantage they had over the PS5 with the X. Not like there is a point to buying a xbox if you pc game anyways.
 
yourgrandma said:
It's a really dumb move doing this at the start of the gen. If they do release any 'exclusives' they are going to be gimped and designed around the limitations of the lower end series S consoles not the X. Kind of removes any advantage they had over the PS5 with the X. Not like there is a point to buying a xbox if you pc game anyways.
Click to expand...

They were already going to be gimped as MS plans to keep supporting Xbox One consoles for a couple years beyond the launch of new consoles.
 
Terrible decision to bring this console , will ruin this generation , they should have branded this as new XB1 or something instead of the old S and X and kill it after 2-3 years.
now they are just hurting this gen. game development, brilliant
 
Decent price. I'm not interested, but I could see the market.

From rumors, it has the same CPU and just a weaker GPU. So it can still run the same games, but at 1080p and should still look next-gen for people without 4K TVs.

Remember, 4K is 4x the pixels of 1080p. So even assuming the S was 1/2 the GPU perf as the X, it would still run faster at 1080p than the same game at 4K on the X.

Though there will probably be tricks and optimization, even the X may not be running native 4K so it's hard to say without more info.
 
cybereality said:
Decent price. I'm not interested, but I could see the market.

From rumors, it has the same CPU and just a weaker GPU. So it can still run the same games, but at 1080p and should still look next-gen for people without 4K TVs.

Remember, 4K is 4x the pixels of 1080p. So even assuming the S was 1/2 the GPU perf as the X, it would still run faster at 1080p than the same game at 4K on the X.

Though there will probably be tricks and optimization, even the X may not be running native 4K so it's hard to say without more info.
Click to expand...

Yar, this. If XSS can deliver XSX performance but at 1080p at that $299.99 price, it will be a winner.

https://twitter.com/_h0x0d_/status/1303252607759130624?s=20
 
Last edited:
OP needs an update. MS confirmed the price of the series S and Windows Central leaked the X version will be priced at $500.

DukenukemX said:
Which is stupid because not all games run at 4k or 1080p. When you turn on Ray-Tracing you won't be able to achieve 4k easily even with the Xbox Series X, so I can't imagine this being good for the weaker "S". The PS5 at $400 sounds like a better buy. Also "S" is a stupid letter to choose as people can call it Xbox Series Shit.

I've said it many times before and I'll say it again, in that cloud gaming has no future. Therefore the "S" model has no future. When the pandemic started Netflix and YouTube had to limit the steam quality so the services could function. You don't think cloud gaming won't be effected by this? People already forgot about Geforce Now and Stadia. Nvidia's RTX 3000 series is going to have a feature to reduce latency, which is contradicting of their Geforce Now service.
Click to expand...


People talk less about GE Force now because 3rd party publishers forced Nvidia to take away our ability to play games we paid for.

Nvidia firmly proved cloud gaming has a future. Microsft already has flight simulator as a first party application. They will be able to get 3rd parties on board to in ways Nvidia couldn't.
 
Staples said:
And what are the specs? Didn't tell us anything,
Click to expand...

Half the SSD of series X

saving grace is that it should have the expandable cartridge slot. But that is razor(or printer) with cartridge model.

cc Derangel

EhYbNOVXcAI3NOc.jpeg



Tom Warren (@tomwarren) Tweeted:
more Xbox Series S leaks:

• 1440p gaming at 120fps
• 512GB SSD
• ray tracing support

Full details here: https://t.co/cA5tkZXCAc https://t.co/SKIr6fIj5b
Click to expand...
https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1303259742110912514?s=20
 
Looking good. But 512GB storage, you can only download CoD and MS Flight Sim and then you're done for. I wonder what the play here will be for storage expansion.

Unless they will be pushing game streaming hard, or with the pass you can download and delete games without losing your save. Maybe that would work.
 
Last edited:
Derangel said:
I rather doubt most of the people in the market for a $300 console are going to be buying high-end PC gaming parts.
Click to expand...
If I were buying a console then it would be the PS5, because it just removes the Blu-Ray drive. The Xbox Series Shit removes a lot more to get the price down to $300, and if you were shopping for a $300 console then you might as well buy a PS4. Obviously you aren't going to buy a high end PC in place of a $300 console. You get yourself a low-end PC instead.
mutantmagnet said:
People talk less about GE Force now because 3rd party publishers forced Nvidia to take away our ability to play games we paid for.
Click to expand...
Or because they all experienced latency throughout their game play experience.
Nvidia firmly proved cloud gaming has a future.
Click to expand...
Sure they did, for like the 4th time now since 2008. What was it called, Geforce Grid? 5th times the charm.
Microsft already has flight simulator as a first party application. They will be able to get 3rd parties on board to in ways Nvidia couldn't.
Click to expand...
Yea, they'll be exclusive to the Xbox console... and PC... and probably Nintendo Switch. Microsoft hasn't had a good track record for keeping their first party games exclusive to Xbox. Probably because the Xbox One died and the sales on the console weren't enough to keep developers happy.

 
I wonder if MS would jebait a disc-less XSX and price it directly against PS5 (assuming PS5 is cheaper than the full XSX).

But, yeah, that 512 GB is concerning. Hopefully their expansion cartridges are affordable or they have a smooth external storage setup.
 
Verge said:
It's slower than a current gen xbox and ps4. Why would it deliver anything next gen? This will only play next gen via a cloud service. Sad day for gamers.
Click to expand...

I'm pretty sure both its CPU/GPU and storage are all faster than PS4/XboxOne (including their Pro/X upgrades). I think the Xbox One X does have the XSS beat on TFLOPS, though, so I guess there's that.

At work so can't dig too deep, but if it is only a streaming-based console (ala Stadia) - yeah, I'd avoid it as well.
 
SeymourGore said:
I'm pretty sure both its CPU/GPU and storage are all faster than PS4/XboxOne (including their Pro/X upgrades). I think the Xbox One X does have the XSS beat on TFLOPS, though, so I guess there's that.

At work so can't dig too deep, but if it is only a streaming-based console (ala Stadia) - yeah, I'd avoid it as well.
Click to expand...

Microsoft is still selling the Xbox One S which would be streaming (xcloud) based console

The series S is for
  1. 1080p gaming
  2. All Access/gamepass ($25 per month in US)
  3. PS5 gamers who skipped on the xbox one
 
SeymourGore said:
I'm pretty sure both its CPU/GPU and storage are all faster than PS4/XboxOne (including their Pro/X upgrades). I think the Xbox One X does have the XSS beat on TFLOPS, though, so I guess there's that.

At work so can't dig too deep, but if it is only a streaming-based console (ala Stadia) - yeah, I'd avoid it as well.
Click to expand...

PS4 pro is higher TFLOP... only slightly, but still. XOneX is 25% higher. How is it next gen?
 
Marees said:
Microsoft is still selling the Xbox One S which would be streaming (xcloud) based console

The series S is for
  1. 1080p gaming
  2. All Access/gamepass ($25 per month in US)
  3. PS5 gamers who skipped on the xbox one
Click to expand...
What reason would a PS5 game have to buy one for skipping the Xbox one. They didn't miss much.
 
Verge said:
PS4 pro is higher TFLOP... only slightly, but still. XOneX is 25% higher. How is it next gen?
Click to expand...

Not sure why you keep comparing series S to X1X

X1X was for 4k; series is for 1080p
X1X never sold cheaper than $300; series S is launching at $300

Evidently the market is different for both
 
No disc drive = no buy unless Microsoft is going to give me a copy for all the physical games I already own as well as a physical copy of any disc I buy going forward... I have 2 X1X I'm happy with so I think I may stick with them unless games dry up.
 
vegeta535 said:
What reason would a PS5 game have to buy one for skipping the Xbox one. They didn't miss much.
Click to expand...

Pretty much the only exclusives MS had this generation were Gears, Halo, and Forza. I guess Killer Instinct has/had a loyal niche groups of fans, too. Those tend to be different audiences, though. At least other than Halo and Gears. There's not much reason for someone go jump on the MS train who skipped this generation. That's not even counting those games also being available on the PC.
 
Marees said:
Not sure why you keep comparing series S to X1X

X1X was for 4k; series is for 1080p
X1X never sold cheaper than $300; series S is launching at $300

Evidently the market is different for both
Click to expand...

How many 4k 60fps games came out for the X1X ?
 
Verge said:
How many 4k 60fps games came out for the X1X ?
Click to expand...

Whether it played 4K great or not, the One X was their '4K console'.

Domingo said:
Pretty much the only exclusives MS had this generation were Gears, Halo, and Forza. I guess Killer Instinct has/had a loyal niche groups of fans, too. Those tend to be different audiences, though. At least other than Halo and Gears. There's not much reason for someone go jump on the MS train who skipped this generation. That's not even counting those games also being available on the PC.
Click to expand...

I was drawing blanks trying to think of exclusives for the Xbox One generation. I remember there was a forgettable action adventure game (reCore, iirc). Oh, and there was an excellent version of RDR2 for the One X. I'm surprised they're still 'hanging' onto the One generation with their first party software. I'd say, cut the loss, focus exclusively on next gen and let third party software handle the One's 'swan song' software releases.
 
SeymourGore said:
Whether it played 4K great or not, the One X was their '4K console'.
Click to expand...

But even some of the enhanced last gen games only ran 60fps on the X1X. You're telling me their next gen "1080p" console, might not even run 1080p games at 60fps, even though their old console will.

Come on, this is freaking nuts.
 
Verge said:
But even some of the enhanced last gen games only ran 60fps on the X1X. You're telling me their next gen "1080p" console, might not even run 1080p games at 60fps, even though their old console will.

Come on, this is freaking nuts.
Click to expand...

Whatever the X1X can do on 4k, the series S can do better on 1080p
 
Verge said:
But even some of the enhanced last gen games only ran 60fps on the X1X. You're telling me their next gen "1080p" console, might not even run 1080p games at 60fps, even though their old console will.

Come on, this is freaking nuts.
Click to expand...

I dunno, I think the new console has a better chance at hitting 1080p60 with the upgraded CPU+GPU. Who knows, though. It'd be nice if MS made the requirement 'mandatory' like they did with 720p during the X360 era.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top