antonlissone
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Just use hdmi to oled and then oled e-arc (hdmi) to receiver.
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Just use hdmi to oled and then oled e-arc (hdmi) to receiver.
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Thank you, I was hoping it would be fairly painless.
I've never bought a "Titan" class GPU but since Ampere's Ti replacement for the time being is the 3090, thinking back, no flagship Ti tier card has ever done me wrong. 1080 Ti was the best you could do for 2 years, 2080 Ti was the same. If you buy a 3090, you don't have to concern yourself with anything else released inbetween/above for a couple years and will be able to sell it (hopefully) for a good 60% of what you paid 2 years later. This is completely ignoring AMD (no faith) or the Corona/economic/supply circumstances that could swing it in either direction like it did with the 2080 Ti where used values = new.
I'm leaning toward the 3090 FE now.
I'm leaning toward the 3090 FE now.
GSYNC is supported on the LG B9,C9,BX, and CX. I believe it is also supported on the "boutique" models of OLED above those.
GSYNC over HDMI is supported on Nvidia Turing and Ampere GPUs (GTX 16xx, RTX 2xxx, RTX 3xxx).
LG worked with Nvidia to support HDMI 2.1 VRR on current Nvidia GPUs. VRR works fine over HDMI 2.0 already so there is no reason to think it would not work over HDMI 2.1.
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The receiver I have only has ARC, will that be a problem? Also would a Display Port to HDMI cable be an option?
mirkendargen
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Displayport is capable of carrying audio (up to 7.1 LPCM for sure, I actually do this. Not sure if it can do DTS:X/TrueHD/Atmos), but the cables don't always support it and it can be luck of the draw finding DP->HDMI cables that do.
I've had no luck with eARC going 2080ti > CX48 > Denon x4700h. It ends up killing the CX completely to the point that I had to pull the power before it would turn on again. ARC tho worked fine. I expect this will get sorted out between LG & Denon eventually.
I'm using this dp to hdmi adapter to send sound to my receiver now and everything is fine: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WD75HCD . You end up with 2 "monitors" in Windows but if you rearrange the second monitor to be in the top left corner, you won't notice it.
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Thank you all for your help. I bought a $12.99 HDMI to Display Port cable and it works! Hopefully when my CX comes tomorrow it will still work 
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This is a mighty mighty long thread...Is the TL;DR consensus that this is currently the best 4k 40"+ option for gaming and movies? I've held off upgrading from using 2 HP ZR30w 30" 2K IPS monitors for like a decade now, mainly b/c I wanted a 4K monitor that would work great for photo editing and gaming. I don't take photos anymore so now it's just gaming, which makes choosing a lot easier.
Unless there is something totally awesome around the corner in Q4 this year or Q1 next year, I might buy myself one of these.
Thanks in advance for any answers.
Unless there is something totally awesome around the corner in Q4 this year or Q1 next year, I might buy myself one of these.
Thanks in advance for any answers.
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Yes. If you're coming from the ZR30W to one of these, prepare to be blown away. It will be a major upgrade especially for gaming.
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Thanks a lot
How is the text clarity on the 48CX due to the WRGB pixels? Can someone show a photo of text in notepad and Windows explorer on a 48CX?
I want to compare it to my current monitor / TV, Samsung UE43MU6100 which has a VA RGB panel.
Planning on upgrading to a 48CX if a text is not an issue and also upgrade to a RTX 3080.
I want to compare it to my current monitor / TV, Samsung UE43MU6100 which has a VA RGB panel.
Planning on upgrading to a 48CX if a text is not an issue and also upgrade to a RTX 3080.
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1080p is crystal clear because it's an even 4:1 pixel ratio (it looks exactly like 1080p would look on a native 1080p 48" display, which isn't that great). 1440p isn't perfect but honestly doesn't look bad at all in my opinion.
So is there a way with the new 3080 to be able to play some titles in 1080p but with AI upscaled to 4K and it would probably look better than 1440p ?
Now that the RTX 3000 GPUs are being released with HDMI 2.1, the LG CX 48" (and any CX size) is the best large format gaming monitor you can currently buy, full stop. No if's, and's, or but's. 4k120hz, HDR, 10-bit 4:4:4, GSYNC, Freesync, VRR, Dolby Vision... There is not another display out there that even comes close to the features this bad boy offers. All of the stuff would be amazing on an LCD... but this is OLED, which makes it even better.
BTW, this is a smart TV, which means that it can do way more than just be a computer monitor.
Black text looks great. White text is going to look odd compared to an RGB subpixel matrix. It doesn't bother me, but if you read a lot of text, it's been said that an IPS monitor will look better.
1080p looks great.
1440p IMO looks great as well, but if you're sitting close to the screen, you will see some pixelation. Again, it doesn't bother me, especially in 120hz gaming. 120hz ANYTHING on this display is just amazing. You will not find another screen that displays as clear of a picture in motion.
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Once HDMI 2.1 bandwidth is available to do integer scaling on 1080p (make a 4k image by adding pixels in between each 1080p pixel that splits the difference between the adjacent ones), yeah it should look pretty good. The "AI upscaling" you're describing is literally what DLSS is, and it's already here, and it's amazing....but it needs to be supported at the game level unfortunately, it isn't just something you toggle on in NVCP. Hopefully with cards that support it becoming mainstream and DLSS 2.0 being much easier for developers to implement it will become more universal going forward.
And I already get 60FPS+ at 4k in FlightSim with a 2080ti I think?
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Good to see the Ampere announcement spark a lot of new interest in the CX. I've personally been having a great experience on a 2080 Ti and can't wait to upgrade to a 3090.
Nice! Yeah the only issue with DLSS is that it's not widely supported right now. Hopefully more and more games will support it. As for the 'integer scaling' - Is it something that will be automated or something that will need to be manually configured ?
Pretty exciting times anyhow. I have my CX 48 preordered (Should be delivered sometimes in October, silly Canadian market). Running a 1080 right now, will be buying a 3080 or 3070ti (if they get confirmed)
3080/3090 + CX 48 does seems like the way to go. Haven't been this excited in a long time.
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Integer scaling is an option in the "Adjust desktop size and position" section of NVCP and is universal when enabled. Not sure if those settings are saved per resolution or what once set.
Thanks. I'm such a boomer now and been out of the game for too long.
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Absolutely. I was leaning towards the 3080 initially but running the calculations has made the 3090 worth it, even if it is only 15% faster than a 3080. I'm estimating the 3080 to be no more than 30-40% over a 2080 Ti, and if the 3090 is 15% faster than a 3080, that would make the 3090 a whopping 50-60% faster than a 2080 Ti.
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I'm gonna get a 3090 too....but today they released an actual FPS comparison between a 2080ti and a 3080 in Doom Eternal and the 3080 is a 50% gain....so a 3090 may well be a 75%+ gain over a 2080ti in at least some games.
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I'm gonna get a 3090 too....but today they released an actual FPS comparison between a 2080ti and a 3080 in Doom Eternal and the 3080 is a 50% gain....so a 3090 may well be a 75%+ gain over a 2080ti in at least some games.
Doom Eternal is definitely a cherry picked scenario. Digital Foundry also saw 90% performance uplift from 2080 to 3080 in Doom Eternal. However, they saw lesser gains in other games like BFV and BL3 at around 70%. Regardless though, I don't expect the 3090 to be any less than a 50% gain over a 2080 Ti. The only way that would happen is if the 3090 is a lot less than 15% faster than a 3080 which is highly unlikely. We've already seen the performance gain in 5 games from a 2080 to 3080 so it's pretty safe to say how much faster the 3080 is, only thing that remains a mystery is the 3090 vs 3080.
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Bam.
Which is what we've been waiting for. I'm still holding off on purchasing a CX until I see some reviews with the 3000 series to make sure there aren't any undiscovered problems, but everything looks pretty much good to go.
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Geez, reading all this has me even more interested. Could the wait for a truly kickass 4k 120hz with no significant shortcomings finally be over?
Well there are still shortcomings like size, burn-in possibility, automatic static brightness limiter that needs to be disabled via service menu (needs service remote from eBay or Android phone with IR blaster) if you want to use it as a desktop monitor. But those are pretty manageable shortcomings comings compared to all the benefits of the monitor.
It is without doubt the best 4K consumer monitor you can buy at the moment.
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brightness safety controls incl abl, etc. are what greatly reduce the chance of burn in. You can set up another named setting in the OSD for text/reading within specific OSD control settings (recommended from rtings) than stay below the abl limit so that it will never kick on. Then you can just swap to that named setting with the remote and back as needed. Personally I'm going to use my OLED as a multimedia/gaming stage, not for desktop/app use. I'll have other monitor(s) in the array for that.
You probably dont want to replace your mobo but if I were to want to run two 3090s I'd look to Asus WS (Work Station) mobo models. They are made for running up to four GPUs so that may give you the room maybe for two 3090 cards. I have used the WS mobos in the past and they are very good but pricier than a normal mobo. I'm assuming they have the new chipsets mobos but haven't looked at them lately. You may want to check them out. Just a suggestion anyway.
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Can someone recommend a good desk mounted VESA monitor arm with rotation capability for this so I can easily tilt the monitor to portrait mode and then back again to landscape mode? My walls are brick so I have to mount it to my desk.
Thanks!
Thanks!
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1080ti SC hybrids were probably my last sli build. Before that I Diy modded AiOs with nzxt brackets onto a few 780 ti SC. While some games still support sli and others via hacks/workarounds.. with the power of these new gpus along with the promise of DLSS frame rates while giving results similar to supersampling - I decided to just pay the "Titan Early Tax" and get a 3090 hybrid/neptune.. rather than wait for a somewhat lower priced Ti to double down on with Sli like I had my last two gpu upgrades.
That and the increased cost of this gen, plus the fact that SLI isn't being utilized in VR (even though it could have had a perfect scenario of one gpu per eye). Personally I'd get a 4k per eye vr kit rather than run triple gaming monitors now if I were spending that kind of money on immersion, or wait for the next gen of VR where those kinds of resolutions should become more standard.
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I think he read the dimensions wrong. They're triple slot at most, and that isn't 5" "wide" in terms of mobo real estate. I think they're 5" "tall" in the way I would think of things, but that might be listed as width in physical dimensions.
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Funny part is that this pretty much happens ALL the time. Titan X Maxwell and GTX 1070 anyone? GTX 1070 offered Titan X Maxwell performance for only $380 vs $1000. Original GTX Titan vs GTX 970? GTX 970 offered Titan performance for only $320, AND that was not even 2 years later. Really anybody who bought a 2080 Ti the day it came out all the way back in 2018 should not feel hosed at all, you got 2 years worth of performance no other card could even come close to. And 2 years is an eternity in the PC world. I will gladly buy a 3090 and enjoy a level of performance that no card will match for 2+ years, and even when a "4070" comes out offering the same performance as a 3090 for "only $499", I'm not gonna feel any buyer's remorse. The only people who should feel bad are those who bought a 2080 Ti this year.
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Yeah I honestly prefer the way things went last cycle and (presumably) this cycle compared to "Buy an x80 card, it gets blown out of the water a year later by an x80ti card" that happened for the 9 and 10 series. This way you can feel reasonably good about a purchase for 2 years, instead of perpetually alternating between "waiting for the ti to come out" then "waiting for the next gen to come out" every year.
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Yeah, buying a 2080Ti at launch (or soon after) was really the best case scenario considering the price never really dropped (thanks AMD!) and resale value remained extremely high until recently. Folks who bought in later essentially paid the same price and didn’t get nearly as much use out of it before something came along to wallop it...which is soon. Assuming that we’ll actually be able to get our hands on one!
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Personally I considered the 2000 series a "tick" and the 3000 series a big "TOCK". I skipped the 2000 series as I found it incremental and mediocre from my position (although I have 1080ti SLI not single card). The fact that the 2000 series was incremental compared to the 3000 series was even admitted to by Jensen Huang in his speech and his charts showing 1000, 2000, and 3000 series' performance.
"Every couple of generations, the stars align as it did with Pascal and we get a giant generational leap"
"Pascal was known as the perfect 10. Pascal was a huge success and set a very high bar."
"It took the "Super Family" of Turing to meaningfully exceed PAscal on game performances without ray tracing"
"With ray tracing turned on, Pascal, using programmable shaders to compute ray-triangle intersections, fell far behind Turing's RT core."
(However)
"Turing with ray tracing ON reached the same performance as pascal with raytracing OFF."
"So we doubled down on everything. Twice the shaders, twice the ray-tracing, and twice the Tensor Core. The triple double. Ampere knocks the daylights out of Pascal on ray tracing. And even with ray tracing on, crushes Pascal on frame rate. To all my Pascal gamer friends, it is safe to upgrade now".
"Every couple of generations, the stars align as it did with Pascal and we get a giant generational leap"
"Pascal was known as the perfect 10. Pascal was a huge success and set a very high bar."
"It took the "Super Family" of Turing to meaningfully exceed PAscal on game performances without ray tracing"
"With ray tracing turned on, Pascal, using programmable shaders to compute ray-triangle intersections, fell far behind Turing's RT core."
(However)
"Turing with ray tracing ON reached the same performance as pascal with raytracing OFF."
"So we doubled down on everything. Twice the shaders, twice the ray-tracing, and twice the Tensor Core. The triple double. Ampere knocks the daylights out of Pascal on ray tracing. And even with ray tracing on, crushes Pascal on frame rate. To all my Pascal gamer friends, it is safe to upgrade now".
