'NBA 2K21' Will Cost $70 USD for PS5 and Xbox Series X. Is this the new normal?

cybereality said:
Honestly, games today should be $100 if you consider how long they are and how much the budget is.

NES games sold for like $50 bucks (which is much more today w/ inflation not even considering the developement time and budget were much less). Or you can consider a movie you might pay $20 and watch once for 2 hours.

Games today you can easily get 20 or 30 hours of entertainment, I think they are worth more than $60.
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FFVII gave us a solid 80 hours of gameplay and extras sold for 49.99 in 1997.

100 dollars is gouging.
 
Yeah, but then the other thing is digital games should be cheaper as there is no physical media or box, but they charge just as much as regular games.
 
Master_shake_ said:
FFVII gave us a solid 80 hours of gameplay and extras sold for 49.99 in 1997.

100 dollars is gouging.
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Well, it would have cost $80 today with inflation.

But, for my original example, a $50 NES game from 1990 would cost $100 in 2020 dollars.
 
Starfalcon said:
Yeah all the SNES games were expensive back then. I paid $100 for chrono trigger when it came out, and the most I paid was $125 for lufia 2. The high meg carts were all very expensive, which was most of the RPGs back then.
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Were they that expensive everywhere? I dont remember paying anywhere close to that price for Chrono Trigger. But then again the "gotta have it now" hype wasnt very big back then, so it's entirely possible I got it some time after release
 
jmilcher said:
I guess people have forgot what AAA NES games were sold for. The $60 price tag was invented with the NES and lasts to this day as the standard. Except people did not complain in 1988.
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Were you buying the 23rd iteration of the same game at $70 bucks then?

This game you're paying for a graphical tweak and a stats file update pressed onto an Optical Disc. At least back in the day you could justify it by showing all the hardware included on a cartridge and saying "That shit costs money to manufacture, along with this plastic case and copper-traced
PCB".....
 
cybereality said:
Well, it would have cost $80 today with inflation.

But, for my original example, a $50 NES game from 1990 would cost $100 in 2020 dollars.
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Inflation is a funny argument that way, sure the buying power of the dollar changed but that in no way represents value or cost in today's world. I mean hell I paid 200 for 8 MEGAbytes of ram way back when, should ram prices be dramatically increased as a result to reflect the past? Do the jobs required to make the games adjust for inflation, many dont, plus Japan where much of games like FF7 were done have different inflation rates than the US.
 
sfsuphysics said:
Were they that expensive everywhere? I dont remember paying anywhere close to that price for Chrono Trigger. But then again the "gotta have it now" hype wasnt very big back then, so it's entirely possible I got it some time after release
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Yeah I bought it at launch the day it came out with the strategy guide, and it was $130-$140 ish. Worth every dollar I paid for it though.
 
I'm waiting for the day in game advertising and load screen ads takes over to offset the cost of the game no one will pay for. I'm honestly shocked it has taken over already. Netflix, Prime, Youtube, Hulu etc etc have fallen to it. Speaking of NBA, they caved and put ads on players' jerseys. The Ready Player One scene where management says they can fill the screen 70% before seizures comes to mind.
 
sfsuphysics said:
Do the jobs required to make the games adjust for inflation, many dont, plus Japan where much of games like FF7 were done have different inflation rates than the US.
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Well no, but retro games also didn't have $265 million dollar budgets like GTA 5.
 
HeadRusch said:
Were you buying the 23rd iteration of the same game at $70 bucks then?
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Who’s forcing you to buy anything? Vote with your wallet like I do. End of story. Complaining about price when they have the right to sell whatever they’d like for whatever price they’d like is silly. You’re a consumer. Buy it or do not.
 
UnknownSouljer said:
Considering inflation game prices have gone down every year since the 90s.
Games "should be" over $100 now if considering initial pricing and staying at inflated rates.

This doesn't affect me at all. I basically never buy anything at launch or at full price. I can wait 2 years to buy something. There are too many games to play anyway.
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Like I said earlier sure price hasn't gone up much in 30 years but sales did. Couple 100k sales during the SNES days was huge. Now 10 mil is common. Sure development cost have gone up
Master_shake_ said:
FFVII gave us a solid 80 hours of gameplay and extras sold for 49.99 in 1997.

100 dollars is gouging.
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Well they making you pay $60 for the first part then probably $70 for the other 3 parts
That_Sound_Guy said:
I'm waiting for the day in game advertising and load screen ads takes over to offset the cost of the game no one will pay for. I'm honestly shocked it has taken over already. Netflix, Prime, Youtube, Hulu etc etc have fallen to it. Speaking of NBA, they caved and put ads on players' jerseys. The Ready Player One scene where management says they can fill the screen 70% before seizures comes to mind.
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Don't the the sports games do that already? I remember NBA2019 doing it and there was some backlash?
 
Inflation, costs of development, blah blah. Thankfully we have choices right? Buy the game at launch for full price or wait. I typically wait because I'm too busy to care about video game launches these days. I think the last time I bought a game new at launch was Far Cry 3. Halo 3 before that. Wow.
 
zamardii12 said:
Interesting. I also remember back when Steam launched thinking games would be cheaper since we didn't have to buy the case or discs... but we never saw any price decreases. Prices just stayed the same.
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Ah, but we got a jump in game quality instead!

Oh...
 
That_Sound_Guy said:
I'm waiting for the day in game advertising and load screen ads takes over to offset the cost of the game no one will pay for. I'm honestly shocked it has taken over already. Netflix, Prime, Youtube, Hulu etc etc have fallen to it. Speaking of NBA, they caved and put ads on players' jerseys. The Ready Player One scene where management says they can fill the screen 70% before seizures comes to mind.
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Online games already do have real ad placements that give the publisher kickbacks. It's just not as obvious as it was when they first tried it in Battlefield 2142 because the ads actually fit in with the content instead of being completely out of place. NBA 2K20 actually has loading screens with ads right now that you can't skip, even if your game loads in 3 seconds.
 
Armenius said:
Online games already do have real ad placements that give the publisher kickbacks. It's just not as obvious as it was when they first tried it in Battlefield 2142 because the ads actually fit in with the content instead of being completely out of place. NBA 2K20 actually has loading screens with ads right now that you can't skip, even if your game loads in 3 seconds.
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I started replaying Need for Speed Underground 2 the other week for PS2 and that has ads in the game too. Billboards you drive by have a bunch of ads for "Axe" body spray, your cell phone that you get messages on is a "Cingular" phone. It's nothing new. It's just more in-your-face now.
 
zamardii12 said:
I started replaying Need for Speed Underground 2 the other week for PS2 and that has ads in the game too. Billboards you drive by have a bunch of ads for "Axe" body spray, your cell phone that you get messages on is a "Cingular" phone. It's nothing new. It's just more in-your-face now.
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I remember Alan Wake having a lot of that. He drove a Ford with Microsoft Sync and his flashlight operated on Energizer. Hehe
 
I'm not paying $60 for games either, why would I pay $70 then? I value games around 40-45$, or if it's something really great I can't wait for maybe then I go up to $55. Not an inch higher.
 
I saved my allowance for months to afford Pokémon stadium back in the day. I think it was $60.
 
kju1 said:
I dont know why people continually buy these sports games that are essentially the same thing over and over again.

Also yes I think this is the new normal. Prices will go up to $70 and we will see more micro transactions and less content per game.
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Player base. Everyone moves on to the “new” and “shiny” version so it’s harder to find games with the old one.
 
We're in a recession that won't end probably ever, and they wanna start jacking up prices now? That won't go over well with the consumers. Good luck selling PS5's and Xbox Series X's when games cost $70. Also, I said they'd do this a couple of years ago. The only reason they haven't announced the price hike is because COV19 is making them think twice during a console generation reset. Some greedier publishers can't wait to see if this recession will end and priced it at $70 now.
 
DukenukemX said:
We're in a recession that won't end probably ever, and they wanna start jacking up prices now? That won't go over well with the consumers. Good luck selling PS5's and Xbox Series X's when games cost $70. Also, I said they'd do this a couple of years ago. The only reason they haven't announced the price hike is because COV19 is making them think twice during a console generation reset. Some greedier publishers can't wait to see if this recession will end and priced it at $70 now.
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Wont end ever? What kind of bullshit is that? Do you understand economies?

These will sell....because people want them and can afford them. Hell I know people who would probably buy the gaming console even when unemployed.
 
Well yeah. What else are you going to do between job interviews?
 
kju1 said:
Wont end ever? What kind of bullshit is that? Do you understand economies?
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Yes I understand better than most. I predicted this recession albeit not with COV19 in mind. The 2008 recession never ended and this is just the continuation of it. 50% of Americans can't afford the cheapest new car, and this was before COV19. You think our economy was healthy before COV19? More likely COV19 was a black swan and was the catalyst of this recession.


These will sell....because people want them and can afford them. Hell I know people who would probably buy the gaming console even when unemployed.
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This is probably the worst time for new consoles to come out. Remember this is a console reset which means it offers people the opportunity to switch to another platform to play games. That could mean switching to PC for cheaper prices, or not switching at all and just sticking with what you use already. While I'm sure PC games will certainly see $70 prices, that doesn't it'll stay that way. Remember PC games have competition where as consoles don't. You buy that $400 Disc-less PS5 and you have no choice but to buy the games from Sony's online store at their prices. Where on PC games can be sold on multiple stores and if priced too high people will turn to piracy, which piracy can act as a deterrent to prevent prices from going too high otherwise people will seek piracy. As it is most people tolerate $60 games because they already have methods to bypass that. Things like used games, reselling new games they bought, waiting for games to go on sale or just borrowing a friends copy when they get it.

Mark my words, $70 games is a huge mistake.
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DukenukemX said:
Yes I understand better than most. I predicted this recession albeit not with COV19 in mind. The 2008 recession never ended and this is just the continuation of it. 50% of Americans can't afford the cheapest new car, and this was before COV19. You think our economy was healthy before COV19? More likely COV19 was a black swan and was the catalyst of this recession.



This is probably the worst time for new consoles to come out. Remember this is a console reset which means it offers people the opportunity to switch to another platform to play games. That could mean switching to PC for cheaper prices, or not switching at all and just sticking with what you use already. While I'm sure PC games will certainly see $70 prices, that doesn't it'll stay that way. Remember PC games have competition where as consoles don't. You buy that $400 Disc-less PS5 and you have no choice but to buy the games from Sony's online store at their prices. Where on PC games can be sold on multiple stores and if priced too high people will turn to piracy, which piracy can act as a deterrent to prevent prices from going too high otherwise people will seek piracy. As it is most people tolerate $60 games because they already have methods to bypass that. Things like used games, reselling new games they bought, waiting for games to go on sale or just borrowing a friends copy when they get it.

Mark my words, $70 games is a huge mistake.
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Obviously whoever wrote that article has not driven through Baltimore or Chicago...where I see poor, and I mean truly poor people, driving some really nice cars. They will spend their money on that and the government will pay for their housing. So yeah I would say they can "afford" it.
 
Video games have cost the same (or less) for the last 35 years. In a lot of cases they're cheaper. Stuff goes on sale quicker and we don't ever have those zany outlier cartridges that were $75-80. If I can afford a $1000 video card, I don't really have any room to gripe over $10 for a game that's 10x longer than the games I dropped $60 for when I was 10.
 
Domingo said:
Video games have cost the same (or less) for the last 35 years. In a lot of cases they're cheaper. Stuff goes on sale quicker and we don't ever have those zany outlier cartridges that were $75-80. If I can afford a $1000 video card, I don't really have any room to gripe over $10 for a game that's 10x longer than the games I dropped $60 for when I was 10.
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If you can afford a $30000 car, you really shouldn't gripe about the price of gas when it's $4/gallon?

It's not so much that it's $10, it's the price shift that tends to go with it, and it become an industry norm instead of an outlier. Yeah games have cost the same for the last 35 years, yet profits from games seem to be quite high (higher?) than they've ever been... at least for games that do well, now you might make the argument that good games help support crappy games that don't sell but that should not be a business model that me as a consumer accepts.
 
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