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EnderW

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Sent payment to Ins0mnyteq for 2x Optane 16GB drives February 15.

February 19 he sent PM saying he would mail them “in the morning”

February 26 he sent email saying had a family issue and had been out of town but would mail them “tomorrow” or refund.

Sent another email Sunday asking for update, and yesterday asking for refund.

No response. Will be filing PayPal claim tonight.
 
I bought some SSDs from him on 1/26 and it did take an uncomfortable while for shipment/messaging after payment. He had good heatware and mentioned being busy with work in one of the messages so i just waited. He did pull through and i got the SSDs sometime after valentines day (I dont recall the exact date)
 
I don’t think he has heat. Honestly I didn’t do much in the way of due diligence as it was only a $11 purchase and I probably have been spoiled from all the good sellers I’ve dealt with so I’ll chalk it up to a lesson learned the easy way.
 
People don’t post negative feedback unless it was really bad or a flat out scam, for fear of retaliatory feedback. Heatware isn’t a great indicator but yes, it is useful to some extent. I dealt with him before and got my refund after 3 weeks of delay. Didn’t post any either.
 
I had no issues on my deals with him, hopefully hes just busy busy
 
I can understand family issues, but theres no excuse to take 30 seconds to jump on the paypal app on your phone and issue refund. When people say they have personal issues and use it as an excuse for not shipping or not refunding, I can almost guarantee its bullshit and laziness.
 
People don’t post negative feedback unless it was really bad or a flat out scam, for fear of retaliatory feedback. Heatware isn’t a great indicator but yes, it is useful to some extent. I dealt with him before and got my refund after 3 weeks of delay. Didn’t post any either.

This very true. I have been ripped off by people here more than once over the years, once flat our robbed (sigh) and they all had stellar heatwares. I did get retaliatory feedback on a few of those that basically screwed my years of using it up. Said fuck it. lol. Don't sell much anymore, not worth the aggravation of dealing with scammers.
 
This very true. I have been ripped off by people here more than once over the years, once flat our robbed (sigh) and they all had stellar heatwares. I did get retaliatory feedback on a few of those that basically screwed my years of using it up. Said fuck it. lol. Don't sell much anymore, not worth the aggravation of dealing with scammers.

This is one reason I sell cheap or give away my stuff to people I know.
Large feel good factor making people happy instead of having an unpleasant waste of life and being peed off for some time.
 
Unfortunately, I had the same issue with the same person. We made a deal for a few sticks of RAM on February 14, got a reply on February 15 that he got the money and would send it out; then nothing. I tried a PM, on Heatware without a reply. Then a final attempt via the email he used for his PayPal, and still nothing. I went ahead and started a claim over last weekend.
 
People don’t post negative feedback unless it was really bad or a flat out scam, for fear of retaliatory feedback. Heatware isn’t a great indicator but yes, it is useful to some extent. I dealt with him before and got my refund after 3 weeks of delay. Didn’t post any either.

That's what neutral feedback is for; you didn't get scammed but the transaction was far from ideal too.
 
That's what neutral feedback is for; you didn't get scammed but the transaction was far from ideal too.

And get retaliatory neutral feedback in the process? Nah, call me selfish, but I am not risking my Heatware to do that. Although it can be removed, it will be up to Heatware to decide that and I don't have the time to fight it.

Heatware helps as the first step of checking out a potential trader, and screen out those with new account, minimal number or ancient feedback if I have a large transaction. The eBay review system to me is more sensible, but still flaws as it favors the Buyer a bit too mcuh. Buyer can leave negative feedback whereas the Seller negative feedback has no bearing in calculation. I don't have a better solution.
 
You are making the Heatware system void, it loses all its value.
In your case it bears no relation to any of your transactions if there was a problem.
As far as can be read, everything went smoothly every time.
 
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You are making the Heatware system void, it loses all its value.
In your case it bears no relation to any of your transactions if there was a problem.
As far as can be read, everything went smoothly every time.

I am all ears if you have a solution for the retaliatory feedback. Note, putting a detailed response is not it - you still get the neutral or negative one there.
 
I am all ears if you have a solution for the retaliatory feedback. Note, putting a detailed response is not it - you still get the neutral or negative one there.
imo you have to tell the truth otherwise there is no worth.

It might be an idea to speak to the founders of Heatware about this, they need to be aware of how the system is failing.
They have a lot more GHz of paid for brains to apply to it.
 
And get retaliatory neutral feedback in the process? Nah, call me selfish, but I am not risking my Heatware to do that. Although it can be removed, it will be up to Heatware to decide that and I don't have the time to fight it.

Heatware helps as the first step of checking out a potential trader, and screen out those with new account, minimal number or ancient feedback if I have a large transaction. The eBay review system to me is more sensible, but still flaws as it favors the Buyer a bit too mcuh. Buyer can leave negative feedback whereas the Seller negative feedback has no bearing in calculation. I don't have a better solution.
retaliatory feedback will be removed I you can prove your case or if it’s obvious. It’s been done before

edit: if the transaction went through, you can also leave a positive but with detailed information to show the transaction was less than ideal. I handle it this way:

If the transaction happens, positive if it doesn’t go well I am sure to leave those details in the feedback

if I have to resort to dispute mediation, neutral, once again with details

if it fails, negative, with details

I don’t fear retaliatory feedback because most people will see it as such when they look through
 
retaliatory feedback will be removed I you can prove your case or if it’s obvious. It’s been done before

edit: if the transaction went through, you can also leave a positive but with detailed information to show the transaction was less than ideal. I handle it this way:

If the transaction happens, positive if it doesn’t go well I am sure to leave those details in the feedback

if I have to resort to dispute mediation, neutral, once again with details

if it fails, negative, with details

I don’t fear retaliatory feedback because most people will see it as such when they look through

Sure it can be removed as I have stated in my previous post, if you have the time and energy to deal with it and get it removed.

This is your system and how you want to approach it. I don't want to handle it this way. There is no rules or even recommendation from Heatware.
 
Getting it removed isn’t that difficult really, but I understand.
 
Getting it removed isn’t that difficult really, but I understand.

I don't.

Heatware is primarily utilized to flag bad sellers. If you don't leave heat, particularly with a negative outcome, you're leaving the door open for other people to run into the same problem.

This very true. I have been ripped off by people here more than once over the years, once flat our robbed (sigh) and they all had stellar heatwares. I did get retaliatory feedback on a few of those that basically screwed my years of using it up. Said fuck it. lol. Don't sell much anymore, not worth the aggravation of dealing with scammers.

Certainly understand where you're coming from, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that you were robbed. That's an inaccurate description by definition.

The Dictionary said:
Getting it removed isn’t that difficult really, but I understand.

"rob·ber·y

/ˈräb(ə)rē/

noun

the action of taking property unlawfully from a person or place by force or threat of force."


I can understand family issues, but theres no excuse to take 30 seconds to jump on the paypal app on your phone and issue refund. When people say they have personal issues and use it as an excuse for not shipping or not refunding, I can almost guarantee its bullshit and laziness.

Sometimes life just gets overwhelming.

Things happen and for a lot of people, including myself, their personal life takes priority over moral obligations to strangers.

It's certainly happened to me.

At the end of the day, that's what Heatware is for.


Positive - Good Experience

Neutral - Didn't get the item as described, the item itself, or had other issues that were ultimately resolved with the seller without getting PayPal, etc. involved.

Negative - Had to resort to getting PayPal, etc. involved to resolve the issue.

:)
 
hey, in fairness to the OP im going to respond.

we did communicate a few times and i agreed to ship him the optane. this is going to sound like bull shit, but the gods honest truth is my mom passed away during that time, my dad last year in November, and along with having 2 heart attacks i kinda just said fuck it to everything. i left my job, and just been driving around the country. i haven't been home until today when i was forced to return because of this whole virus thing. now i dont think this excuses me, or even serve as an excuse, but its the truth.

i never ever intended to not ship these items, or anything like that i just had enough of life and unfortunately a few posters here got shitty service from me because of it.

i refunded the money to a few people some who didn't post here for whatever reason, but there was more than 1.

so to those of you who didn't get things they wanted , i truly am sorry, and to the community i apologize you had to hear about this and address it.
 
I can understand family issues, but theres no excuse to take 30 seconds to jump on the paypal app on your phone and issue refund. When people say they have personal issues and use it as an excuse for not shipping or not refunding, I can almost guarantee its bullshit and laziness.


in this particular case paypal would not allow me to refund either buyer i attempted many times only for it to tell me " something went wrong"

again this is no excuse i could have certainly picked up the phone and called them, or even just sent the $ back and hope they dropped the cases, as both were small sums of $, but i didint. so i sit here facing the repercussions, whatever they are. i also certainly implore them to leave appropriate feedback on heat.
 
People don’t post negative feedback unless it was really bad or a flat out scam, for fear of retaliatory feedback. Heatware isn’t a great indicator but yes, it is useful to some extent. I dealt with him before and got my refund after 3 weeks of delay. Didn’t post any either.
go ahead and post that feed back i promise i will not send negatively in return. i dont recall this but i dont doubt you.,,
 
hey, in fairness to the OP im going to respond.

we did communicate a few times and i agreed to ship him the optane. this is going to sound like bull shit, but the gods honest truth is my mom passed away during that time, my dad last year in November, and along with having 2 heart attacks i kinda just said fuck it to everything. i left my job, and just been driving around the country. i haven't been home until today when i was forced to return because of this whole virus thing. now i dont think this excuses me, or even serve as an excuse, but its the truth.

i never ever intended to not ship these items, or anything like that i just had enough of life and unfortunately a few posters here got shitty service from me because of it.

i refunded the money to a few people some who didn't post here for whatever reason, but there was more than 1.

so to those of you who didn't get things they wanted , i truly am sorry, and to the community i apologize you had to hear about this and address it.

Life can really suck sometimes, believe me I know it. Good luck out there and thanks for speaking up!
 
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