New Star Wars movie to be made by Ragnarok director

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No clue about any of this. Never saw Thor, and didn't see The Rise of Skywalker or Walker Returns or whatever? Could be cool.

"Obviously, Waititi's fans here in the Ars Orbiting HQ are excited for the prospect of a Star Wars film under his direction. But will Disney see it through? The studio famously fired similarly quirky directors Philip Lord and Christopher Miller from the movie Solo, replacing them with Ron Howard to the film's detriment. We might also be in for a bit of a wait if it does happen. Waititi first has to direct Thor: Love and Thunder, which is set to be released in November 2021 and is also linked to an adaptation of the nerd-canon anime Akira for Warner Brothers."

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/01/new-star-wars-movie-to-be-made-by-thor-ragnarok-director/
 
Delicieuxz said:
I wonder how long it will be before the sequel trilogy is retconned out of the Star Wars story and a new sequel trilogy to the original trilogy is started. Because that will happen at some time.

Hopefully it's done to the prequel trilogy, too.
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I doubt they'd do that since it was a George Lucas production. If anything, I'd like to see what George himself wanted the last trilogy to look like even if it would have been terrible. It's his creation afterall. My understanding was he wasn't very happy with the direction of the new trilogy and even pitched his ideas to them. Disney gave him the old, "Thanks but no thanks."
 
kirbyrj said:
I doubt they'd do that since it was a George Lucas production. If anything, I'd like to see what George himself wanted the last trilogy to look like even if it would have been terrible. It's his creation afterall. My understanding was he wasn't very happy with the direction of the new trilogy and even pitched his ideas to them. Disney gave him the old, "Thanks but no thanks."
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Try these:

https://books.google.com/books?id=Q...h2IG4DA&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAjge#v=onepage&q&f=false

https://www.newyorker.com/books/double-take/takes-kael-on-star-wars
 
Do old republic please like really old in a time we never see before. And no more trilogies they make all stand alone moives like rogue one that is the only good new sw. The main moves where at best avg
 
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"Seriously, most films are awful. Lazy. Remakes, sequels." ~ Ricky Gervais.

I wish they'd leave the old cannon alone. Akira has been done, its not going to be better. Ghost in the Shell wasn't. And much of the star wars charm came from the time and culture it was made. Can no one come up with anything original? The problems hollywood, the bean counters and their broad spectrum appeal formulae have ruined movies.
 
PeaKr said:
"Seriously, most films are awful. Lazy. Remakes, sequels." ~ Ricky Gervais.

I wish they'd leave the old cannon alone. Akira has been done, its not going to be better. Ghost in the Shell wasn't. And much of the star wars charm came from the time and culture it was made. Can no one come up with anything original? The problems hollywood, the bean counters and their broad spectrum appeal formulae have ruined movies.
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With respect, the bean counters make sequels, because that's what people want to see. Jo Jo Rabbit is a brilliant movie and I'd bet that, like the general population, most on this thread haven't seen it. There's a decent chance they never heard of it. Just because something is a sequel, doesn't mean its bad (or good). James Bond has been around longer than I have, and while not every movie has been great, a good chunk of them have been and the latest iteration has had at least 2 or 3 good to excellent movies and none were stinkers.

Mission Impossible started off with great reviews, but the movies, for me, were pretty unremarkable until MI3 and since then none have let me down, though some are clearly better than others.
I assume that going forward, the movies will exist in the same universe, but not necessarily include any of the familiar characters. The bottom line is most complaints are from people worried that their manhood is being attacked by women (who are nasty SJW's with knives made for chopping off their dicks) or their childhood is being destroyed by these movies, which means they had a rather sad childhood. I grew up with the original Trilogy, by childhood is in tact, despite 3 generally awful prequels and 1 decent sequel and 2 lackluster sequels (though maybe the directors cut of the film will redeem this last one, but I have my doubts).

It's a movie. Some will be good (for me that's TFA and Solo) and some will sucks (see Rise of Skywalker and all the prequels).

Ricky's funny, but if he thinks most movies in theaters suck, he goes to shitty movies or he doens't like them to begin with. I probably saw between 50-100 last year. Some were great and some sucked. Most were somewhere in between. That's how it's always been. Just like music, we forget all the shit releases after 10 or 20 years. That's why Boomers think the 60s-70s were just a nonstop parade of great albums and artists and Gen X think the 80s were the best ever. THey both had some good music and a lot of shit.
 
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Delicieuxz said:
I wonder how long it will be before the sequel trilogy is retconned out of the Star Wars story and a new sequel trilogy to the original trilogy is started. Because that will happen at some time.

Hopefully it's done to the prequel trilogy, too.
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I would contribute to crowdfunding for HBO to do the Thrawn trilogy as a series, and then I would pay for a HBO subscription to watch it.
 
Gorankar said:
Even if fired, what can they do at this point really? Retcon everything since The Force Awakens except Roug One? That is about all that will satisfy many of the old fans.
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The answer is to actually utilize the vast universe of Star Wars and bring us fresh characters. Like, how about a story revolving around a main character whom isn't human. And also not lean heavily on easy writing techniques and tropes (I'm looking at you The Mandalorian).
 
chameleoneel said:
The answer is to actually utilize the vast universe of Star Wars and bring us fresh characters. Like, how about a story revolving around a main character whom isn't human. And also not lean heavily on easy writing techniques and tropes (I'm looking at you The Mandalorian).
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How about a film featuring wookies, and only wookies, without subtitles?
 
Gorilla said:
How about a film featuring wookies, and only wookies, without subtitles?
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I don't think they ever subtitles Wookies. But they usually play them off english speaking characters, so that we know what's being said.

I'm down. It could be done. I think it would at least be cool if a movie had like a 20 minute intro like that, before we get any english speaking characters.
 
nilepez said:
With respect, the bean counters make sequels, because that's what people want to see. Jo Jo Rabbit is a brilliant movie and I'd bet that, like the general population, most on this thread haven't seen it. There's a decent chance they never heard of it. Just because something is a sequel, doesn't mean its bad (or good). James Bond has been around longer than I have, and while not every movie has been great, a good chunk of them have been and the latest iteration has had at least 2 or 3 good to excellent movies and none were stinkers.

Mission Impossible started off with great reviews, but the movies, for me, were pretty unremarkable until MI3 and since then none have let me down, though some are clearly better than others.
I assume that going forward, the movies will exist in the same universe, but not necessarily include any of the familiar characters. The bottom line is most complaints are from people worried that their manhood is being attacked by women (who are nasty SJW's with knives made for chopping off their dicks) or their childhood is being destroyed by these movies, which means they had a rather sad childhood. I grew up with the original Trilogy, by childhood is in tact, despite 3 generally awful prequels and 1 decent sequel and 2 lackluster sequels (though maybe the directors cut of the film will redeem this last one, but I have my doubts).

It's a movie. Some will be good (for me that's TFA and Solo) and some will sucks (see Rise of Skywalker and all the prequels).

Ricky's funny, but if he thinks most movies in theaters suck, he goes to shitty movies or he doens't like them to begin with. I probably saw between 50-100 last year. Some were great and some sucked. Most were somewhere in between. That's how it's always been. Just like music, we forget all the shit releases after 10 or 20 years. That's why Boomers think the 60s-70s were just a nonstop parade of great albums and artists and Gen X think the 80s were the best ever. They both had some good music and a lot of shit.
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Naa, 3 of the 4 recent bond movies were good, one was a turd. Besides the Bond franchise has been going since the 60's. I thought all the MI movies were good, guess its a matter of personal taste. I've heard good things about JoJo Rabbit from a few people, looking forward to seeing it. Knives Out was good.

Nobody thinks their manhood is in jeopardy. This is a ridiculous argument with no merit. Problem is when a buck ten women knocks out a bunch of 6.5ft 260lbers. Its never going to happen, unless its a fantasy movie and your veins are filled with midichlorians. Bean counters can't make movies, they make decisions that remove artistic integrity. They make decisions that appeal to the broadest possible audience to maximize profit. Its why all shows/movies today must contain a minority, a gay and a woman acting like a man to appease the politicrites. It doesn't mirror real life. Art is an expression, its not meant to please everyone. Another issue with many of todays movies is that character arcs and plot have been replaced with action cgi. Remaking an old movie and dumping in a load of cgi and political correctness is an insult to the original.

I enjoy music from every era. Occasionally I come across a great new band but todays pop music is fucking terrible. The artist today are more concerned with looks, fame, money and political activism because their giant ego's con them into thinking they matter. Their music suffers. Real musicians are absorbed in their music, they aren't paying attention to the audience. Bjork is a good example of this so is the recently deceased Neil Pert. There's a reason why movies and commercials keep going back to the music of yesterday and musicians keep doing covers.

Ricky fuckin nailed it, its reason he was so funny. You saw a 100 movies this year, lol, musta been a lota foreign films in there huh?
 
PeaKr said:
a buck ten women knocks out a bunch of 6.5ft 260lbers. Its never going to happen, unless its a fantasy movie and your veins are filled with midichlorians.
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or filled with heroin...
Its why all shows/movies today must contain a minority, a gay and a woman acting like a man to appease the politicrites
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and why EVERY one of them has sucked. Nobody wants political correctness shoved down their throats like we live in an afterparty of pride night at the local gay bar.
 
PeaKr said:
Nobody thinks their manhood is in jeopardy. This is a ridiculous argument with no merit. Problem is when a buck ten women knocks out a bunch of 6.5ft 260lbers.
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Is it any less
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than a guy winning against groups of baddies who can't make a shot, come one at a time, and swing wide with their first punch.?

Mark Hamill was scrawny, BTW.

Its never going to happen, unless its a fantasy movie and your veins are filled with midichlorians.
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. Exactly. So.....what are you on about?

Its why all shows/movies today must contain a minority, a gay and a woman acting like a man to appease the politicrites. It doesn't mirror real life.
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Except it does mirror real life. And that's the point in why people want such "representation". There are gay people EVERYWHERE. Whether you notice them or not. If Hispanics haven't overtaken white people already, Hispanics at least equal white people in the U.S. Not to mention, the diverse collection of other types of non-white people whom are Americans and represent the U.S. in sports, science, etc. Anything at all to do with outer space in real life, is absolutely an international/multi-racial effort.

Sci-Fi (Especially novels) also has a long history of representation and challenging these issues for examination and change.
 
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chameleoneel said:
Except it does mirror real life...

Sci-Fi (Especially novels) also has a long history of representation and challenging these issues for examination and change.
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I've always wanted my heroes' journeys in galaxies far away to be a mirror of real life and with full representation. I am constantly annoyed there aren't more cheeseburger loving fat slob protagonists that would give up after the first page.
 
chameleoneel said:
Sci-Fi (Especially novels) also has a long history of representation and challenging these issues for examination and change.
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Using token gays and minorities is not representation. It is meeting diversity quotas and it is actually demeaning to minorities. The character's sexual orientation and race is not supposed to be a plot device. Good works represent without paying attention to race.

This is a hero, who happens to be black. vs. This is a black hero. There is no such thing as a black hero, and as long as it exists there will be racism.
 
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And run the risk of a flop? Surely you jest!
 
M76 said:
Forgive my ignorance but what is a buck ten woman?
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One who weigs a hundred and ten pounds, i.e., small. It's certainly possible for a small person to beat up a larger one, but longer arms and bigger muscles make that outcome relatively unlikely (ignoring "well, she's a martial artist trained by Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan", cybernetic enhancements, etc.) (Iin a similar matter, a 110lb guy isn't likely to win a fight against an NFL linebacker, either.)
 
I'm looking forward to this, I have enjoyed his work since "What We Do in the Shadows", a mockumentary about vampires who live together. It's hysterical! :)
 
This thread made very little sense, and then I realized that Meeho joined CreepyUnkleGoogle on the ignore page yesterday...

But I'm fairly excited for any good/different star wars movie. The last trilogy was never going to stand up to the sky-high expectations that most Star Wars geeks (including myself) were going to have. But with a deep breath and a second watch not that they are streamable they are much better than I expected. But that's just like, my opinion, man...
 
Gorilla said:
I would contribute to crowdfunding for HBO to do the Thrawn trilogy as a series, and then I would pay for a HBO subscription to watch it.
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I haven't checked out the expanded universe content that much. But there are audio books for the novels on YouTube, so maybe I'll listen to them sometime.

 
Delicieuxz said:
I haven't checked out the expanded universe content that much. But there are audio books for the novels on YouTube, so maybe I'll listen to them sometime.

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There are a few notable gems in the EU, but the bulk of it was confusing, messy, and often just downright bad filled with continunity errors, confusing timelines and other things that made it a near imposibility to navigate.
 
Lakados said:
There are a few notable gems in the EU, but the bulk of it was confusing, messy, and often just downright bad filled with continunity errors, confusing timelines and other things that made it a near imposibility to navigate.
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What are the good parts?

I started this a while ago but forgot about it:




I found this timeline of when the novels take place interesting because the stories are spread across such a large range of years:

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Timeline_of_Legends_books
 
Delicieuxz said:
What are the good parts?

I started this a while ago but forgot about it:

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Off the top of my head the Timothy Zahn books are a must read and are noted for rekindling interest in starwars and the EU as a whole back in the 90's, the X-Wing series by Michael A. Stackpole are a good read and there are a few others but it starts going downhill from there.

The dark empire was a popular one but is also credited with really muddying the waters with continunity making a mess of things.
 
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