Ryzen 3950X, 3960X, 3970X Availability

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Not sure what is wrong with people making money on a high demand product if they put in the time/work to be lucky enough to get one. You would rather pay ~50 percent more out the gate directly from the manufacturer and have a slightly better chance of getting one for yourself at release or would you rather have a chance of getting one for much less? If you want one badly enough and can't catch it in stock you can pay more from 3rd party sellers. I don't see the problem with that. You only want the manufactures and the neweggs to get filthy rich?

I could not catch one in stock, even though I was monitoring like a hawk.. so a fellow member here was able to get one from their local MC for me, I paid them a little premium for their time.. the next day I was able to catch it in stock on amazon so bought another to sell to make up for the extra I had paid for the first one. That said even if my only goal was to buy them up as much as I could and resell them for profit I see no problem with that, people pay what its worth to them.
 
doox00 said:
Not sure what is wrong with people making money on a high demand product if they put in the time/work to be lucky enough to get one. You would rather pay ~50 percent more out the gate directly from the manufacturer and have a slightly better chance of getting one for yourself at release or would you rather have a chance of getting one for much less? If you want one badly enough and can't catch it in stock you can pay more from 3rd party sellers. I don't see the problem with that. You only want the manufactures and the neweggs to get filthy rich?

I could not catch one in stock, even though I was monitoring like a hawk.. so a fellow member here was able to get one from their local MC for me, I paid them a little premium for their time.. the next day I was able to catch it in stock on amazon so bought another to sell to make up for the extra I had paid for the first one. That said even if my only goal was to buy them up as much as I could and resell them for profit I see no problem with that, people pay what its worth to them.
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Scalping id a form of arbitrage, and is thus always unethical.

If someone is ever making money by just being a middle man, and not adding anything valuable to the product, there is always something wrong with that.

There is a reason scalping if tickets has been illegal in many jurisdictions for decades.

And yes, if someone is to make more money off of this, I'd rather hvae it be AMD, so they can reinvest in the next generation and keep a competitive market going, not some piece of shit swooping in and buying out all the supply and then turning around and selling it for more money. That is just not OK. It's taking advantage of a shitty situation.
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
Scalping id a form of arbitrage, and is thus always unethical.

If someone is ever making money by just being a middle man, and not adding anything valuable to the product, there is always something wrong with that.

There is a reason scalping if tickets has been illegal in many jurisdictions for decades.

And yes, if someone is to make more money off of this, I'd rather hvae it be AMD, so they can reinvest in the next generation and keep a competitive market going, not some piece of shit swooping in and buying out all the supply and then turning around and selling it for more money. That is just not OK. It's taking advantage of a shitty situation.
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Well I completely disagree, I find nothing moral from any huge multi billion dollar corporation who just fattens the pockets of a few people for the most part.
 
Well I'll be damned! Microcenter rep called me and said hey dude we got a Gigabyte Trx40 Master in stock. Just one. I was like duh!!! Gonna get this monster tossed together tonight.

Good thing I have an xspc raystorm threadripper block from the old 2950x. I almost sold that block too.

Im so glad I didnt wait and get a 3970x because GAWD this shit is expensive AF.
 
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vxspiritxv said:
Wow what kind of "favors" are you providing to get a call when then they get stock. :oops::eek::D
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Oh haha we see those emotes lmao! I used to own a network engineering company, we did lots of Cisco route switching, and small businesses that could only afford stuff like Ubnt and linksys etc, and we spent a shit ton of money in that store. Prices were better than CDW, Dell, HP, etc... I made friends with store manager. He still manages the store. I have the internal hookup because of my relationship as well as history.
 
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Nothing at all in my area, I'd be in for a 3950x if I could get ahold of one. Thought about threadripper but given I'd have to grab a $450 board to go with it vs use one of the am4 boards I already have, I'm probably dropping back out of hedt for a couple of generations. None in stock anyway. Hell, if 2950x were similar in price to 3900x I'd grab one as it'd only be slightly slower, but at $670 it's at least $100 too much.
 
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Man some people on Overclock.net are turning off SMT on the 3950x, and getting 4.5-4.6ghz all core speeds. Impressive indeed
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Dayum!!!! Wow. Must help with thermals by having the nearby sillicon with very low power use...
That'll be very, very close to a max OC 9999KFC in almost everything ST...
 
tangoseal said:
Such a good looking board man Gigabyte has thier shit together with these new AMD generations

You should watch BuildZoids review of this board. He gave it like 100 stars
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I'm just looking at it for the first time and I like what I can see in the photo.

God I wish I had a 3960X or 3970X to test with.
 
I'm still trying to source one. Sometimes, I can get other companies to get me processors if I need them. Unfortunately, there aren't many to go around.
 
If people are getting 3950 to that high by turning off smt I wonder how tr would do with a few cores and smt off...so much area to dissipate heat
 
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Nice clean layout. Damn that row of vrms.
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The Gigabyte Aorus X570 Master has 14 true VRMs in a row just like the trx board and has enough power delivery capacity for a Threadripper 3. If I were running a 3950x I would run that board.
 
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The Gigabyte Aorus X570 Master has 14 true VRMs in a row just like the trx board and has enough power delivery capacity for a Threadripper 3. If I were running a 3950x I would run that board.
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I kind of agree. I'd take a board with excellent power delivery over one with less of it.

That said, I have to wonder how much it matters for these boards given their limited overclocking capability.

When I get my 3960x, I'm probably just going to PBO it and call it a day, because manual overclocks are probably just going to result in disappointing max low threaded boost.
 
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I kind of agree. I'd take a board with excellent power delivery over one with less of it.

That said, I have to wonder how much it matters for these boards given their limited overclocking capability.

When I get my 3960x, I'm probably just going to PBO it and call it a day, because manual overclocks are probably just going to result in disappointing max low threaded boost.
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I am not even running PBO right now on purpose. Just using PB2. I am seeing around 6099 or so CB 15 MT and 204 Single Thread CB 15. I will do PBO next and see how it runs. I will not be manually overclocking . These chips are engineered to run best using the algorithms.
 
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If people are getting 3950 to that high by turning off smt I wonder how tr would do with a few cores and smt off...so much area to dissipate heat
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This.

Can one of you TR3-endowed geeks please test that? I'm also very interested if you can do a per chiplet test (there was an app that tests highest per-core clocks on plebbit a few days ago) as if the TR has multiple good chiplets then that all core without SMT will be ridiculously fast.
edit: the 3900x has one shitlet and one good chiplet. Usually all cores are around 4.4-.4.2 due to to the shitlet which is 3600-tier. So if the shitlet allows 4.5-4.6 without SMT, this is quite a bump that is unexpected.
 
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N4CR said:
This.

Can one of you TR3-endowed geeks please test that? I'm also very interested if you can do a per chiplet test (there was an app that tests highest per-core clocks on plebbit a few days ago) as if the TR has multiple good chiplets then that all core without SMT will be ridiculously fast.
edit: the 3900x has one shitlet and one good chiplet. Usually all cores are around 4.4-.4.2 due to to the shitlet which is 3600-tier. So if the shitlet allows 4.5-4.6 without SMT, this is quite a bump that is unexpected.
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Later tonight I will drop to 8 cores and disable smt. Well see what it can do.
 
tangoseal said:
Later tonight I will drop to 8 cores and disable smt. Well see what it can do.
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That would be interesting too (on best core if there is one) but if you can test all chiplets and cores for binning and then do the same with SMT off after, it would be very interesting to see...
This software might make that easy. It's not a realistic peak boost but a quick way to test it.
Thanks!
 
I'm so effing old and basic. I just want a 3700x. But I probably won't build a new rig until the spring and then Zen 3 is supposed to be announced. I wonder what that'll do to Zen 2 prices.
 
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I wonder what that'll do to Zen 2 prices.
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Probably not much; Zen and Zen+ 'fell short', and thus needed discounts in order to move. Zen 2 is pretty solid all around, so Zen 3 may be introduced 'above' Zen 2 similarly to the way TR3 has been introduced above TR2 rather than a lineup of 1:1 replacements.
 
What a wonderful experience ordering from newegg this morning...
I logged in, made sure my pmt information was up to date, find the CPU in stock, add to cart, try to check out, newegg makes me log in again and answer not 1 but 2 captchas to prove I'm not a bot, then I have to re-enter my payment information, then my shipping address, then log in again, prove I'm not a bot, then pulls the item out since it's now out of stock.
I haven't wanted to punch someone in a long time...until today
 
notarat said:
What a wonderful experience ordering from newegg this morning...
I logged in, made sure my pmt information was up to date, find the CPU in stock, add to cart, try to check out, newegg makes me log in again and answer not 1 but 2 captchas to prove I'm not a bot, then I have to re-enter my payment information, then my shipping address, then log in again, prove I'm not a bot, then pulls the item out since it's now out of stock.
I haven't wanted to punch someone in a long time...until today
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They want to make sure you really want it lol. I had a similar problem with newegg and secondary billing/addresses. Their system is moronic. You can't have different cards on file with different addresses. WTF? How hard is that. Anyways, if add a 2nd card w/ a different address it changes the addresses for all cards on file. Then w/o knowing if you use the wrong combo of card top address, you fail the checkout. And they don't let ya know either. I ended up changing my adresses like 20 times before I figured it out, smh.
 
Huh. Are people actually getting the new Threadrippers? Or are they just able to pre-order?

I pre-ordered on B&H on the supposed launch day, at which point they were saying they'd ship on 12/6. I sent an email inquiring about an update today, and they told me 12/26 now.

I'm a little bit confused regarding whats going on with B&H...

Looks like this system won't get built in 2019 at this rate... I still need to order a motherboard and waterblock, and don't want to do so until I know I'm actually going to get the damned CPU, and the block needs to ship from Germany since everything is out of stock here.
 
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