Diablo IV - The Real Official Thread

I think the graphics look good, just need to fix up the lighting an occlusion a bit to make stuff pop, clearly this is an alpha and they're years away.

You might be right, the landscapes and characters look very flat without any apparent occlusion. Some RTX raytracing might actually be quite impressive in this game.
 
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Here's someone live streaming all of the gameplay from the demo. Looks really cool, there's big world events where like 30 people fight a big boss, check like 16 minutes in the camera zooms way out and the fight a massive boss.
 
Here's someone live streaming all of the gameplay from the demo. Looks really cool, there's big world events where like 30 people fight a big boss, check like 16 minutes in the camera zooms way out and the fight a massive boss.

Am I the only one that thinks this looks really fucking good?
 
Am I the only one that thinks this looks really fucking good?
No I think it looks great for what it's going to be, a sort massively multiplayer open world ARPG. It's going to get even better though, the game is at a minimum two years away.

They're also hinting at a bunch of new Systems, like the Barbarian has this "Arsenal System" where the build has access to four weapon slots. So you're going to be able to combo unique moves together with dual wield into a two hand weapon and what not. I'd just be patient, for a blizzard reveal it's pretty good.

There's also some really great close ups of the models and armor in the panel with some additional info. Skim through it to see it with some more interesting lighting, makes stuff pop. Saying it looks like D3 is crazy, it's way higher poly / higher res textures.
 
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Here's someone live streaming all of the gameplay from the demo. Looks really cool, there's big world events where like 30 people fight a big boss, check like 16 minutes in the camera zooms way out and the fight a massive boss.


Bluddshed, pretty sure. Game looks solid for being A) an early version of the game. and B) being a beginning portion of the game which is generally full of low, slow, easy levels.
 
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I'm glad it looks like a proper Diablo game: dark, dirty, imposing and not a colourful happy fun time WoW mod like Diablo 3.
 
So can I buy it and just play it or do I need to pay for a subscription too?
 
It is funny how they announce Diablo 4 and all the shitty things blizzard been doing is forgotten. Gamers have no integrity.

Who said anyone forgot things? People can discuss the game without talking about how shitty the company is. Also, you are willfully blind if you haven't seen people continuing to talk about it and the protests happening at Blizzcon. Keep trying to paint people with broad strokes though, its an easy way to make an ass out of yourself and I find it quite amusing.
 
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It's a little politically obtuse to think Blizzard is the only company with scrapes on their knees for china, most corporations if not all corporations do anything to make a greater profit. It's off topic, but it's naive to think there aren't far worse corporations than Blizzard, some of which you probably buy products from regularly. That's all I'll say on the matter, this isn't the time nor the place. You want to join the hive mind go to reddit.
 
It's a little politically obtuse to think Blizzard is the only company with scrapes on their knees for china, most corporations if not all corporations do anything to make a greater profit. It's off topic, but it's naive to think there aren't far worse corporations than Blizzard, some of which you probably buy products from regularly. That's all I'll say on the matter, this isn't the time nor the place. You want to join the hive mind go to reddit.

Agreed, but let's be realistic here. Pretty much any discussion forum/corner of the web is going to be "hive mind" whether it aligns with your personal ideologies or not. Just saying.
 
Looks really good surprised top down Action RPGs are still alive 20+ years after the original Diablo. I hope this game is more like Ulitima than Diablo.
 
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All things China and mobile aside, what's keeping me from having any shred of excitement regarding this is the fact that over seven years they did the absolute minimum in creating new content for Diablo 3.
 
K let all these game companies to continue shitting on you and keep on destroying gaming.

Then don't buy it and make your own topic about the subject.. No need to try and divert a thread away to political bullshit in order to fit your narrative. This is about the game, not Blizzard's actions.
 
Saw that, pretty much an MMORPG now. Wonder how much of the fan base is going to be pissed about this.
Actually distilling what was said, it's not going to be a MMORPG. It'll just be more Diablo 3. Meaning you can play solo or with friends, but you'll never see anyone else unless you choose to enter a PvP zone.

It's just a positive spin way of saying "no offline, we will maintain airtight anti-piracy same as all our other games". Not since StarCraft II have any of their games fallen to piracy.
 
Traditionally?
Diablo I had 3 classes (and no Blizzard made expansions).
Diablo II started with 5 and then added 2 more (Lord of Destruction) for a total of 7.
Diablo III also started with 5 classes and then added one (RoS) and then another one (Necromancer expansion) for a total of 7.

There hasn't been any Diablo game with exactly 4 classes. I would expect that there will be at least 5 and that is likely the precise amount. If they have more than 5 to start it will for sure max out at seven. But I'd say it's VERY unlikely that the starting roster will exceed 6. My bet would be 5 or 6 heavily weighted to 5.
What they will be is anyone's guess, but there have been rumors (since before the D4 announcement) that Druid, Barbarian, Sorceress (all confirmed), and Necromancer (not confirmed) would be among them. Likely the 5th if they are trying to be classic (which it appears they are) will be some sort of Paladin/Crusader or similar or Amazon/DH/Rogue (like you stated). Any of those 3 will likely vie for the 4th and 5th spots, with a chance at all 3 being included for 6.

EDIT: Confirmed multiple times that D4 will ship with 5 classes. My conjecture is officially pointless.

Maybe I hadnt had my coffee when I posted this lol. Disregard.
 
Actually distilling what was said, it's not going to be a MMORPG. It'll just be more Diablo 3. Meaning you can play solo or with friends, but you'll never see anyone else unless you choose to enter a PvP zone.

It's just a positive spin way of saying "no offline, we will maintain airtight anti-piracy same as all our other games". Not since StarCraft II have any of their games fallen to piracy.
You will see other people throughout the open world and in towns. Private dungeons are the only place you won't see them.
 
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imo diablo 3 is better then both those, although grim dawn is a pretty good game too, Poe I never got into, don't like how the game works, graphics would be decent for diablo 2 era games bit late for that though, and not very friendly for some casual play as afaik you need to grind tons of mat's so you can reroll stuff on items until you give up or it finally turns up the way you want, bit like a slot machine.

What turned me off about POE was the convoluted mess of the skill tree. Way to complicated for what it needed to be.

D4 looks really good. I wish I would have purchased Grim Dawn at the time but probably not going to fork out cash for it. There are enough free ARPG games and others I have purchased.
 
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Looks like more of the same, which is fine by me. I like the Diablo games for what they are and this appears to be what I want from them. The graphics don't look much better than 3, but it's not like they're bad as-is. Hopefully this gives them room to add powerful but GPU-pushing effects like ray tracing.

The more open nature of the game is something I hoped 3 would have more of.
 
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The graphics don't look much better than 3, but it's not like they're bad as-is.

Not much reason to really push the latest features and performance levels of modern GPUs with a game like this; hell, Diablo 4 might well run quite alright on upcoming Intel and current (and upcoming) AMD APUs.

Broad target audience here.

Hopefully this gives them room to add powerful but GPU-pushing effects like ray tracing.

This is entirely possible. Ray-tracing can have great effects even when used for graphics that aren't targeting 'realism'. However, I do question if Diablo 4 would be ready for such a thing.
 
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What turned me off about POE was the convoluted mess of the skill tree. Way to complicated for what it needed to be.

D4 looks really good. I wish I would have purchased Grim Dawn at the time but probably not going to fork out cash for it. There are enough free ARPG games and others I have purchased.
Well there's your problem. It's a passive tree, not a skill tree. Your skills are determined by the gems you socket into your gear. And the passive tree isn't complicated when you realize you just need to pick out the 4-6 keystones you want and not worry about anything beyond the path to get there.
 
Well there's your problem. It's a passive tree, not a skill tree. Your skills are determined by the gems you socket into your gear. And the passive tree isn't complicated when you realize you just need to pick out the 4-6 keystones you want and not worry about anything beyond the path to get there.

Yeah sure, easy peasy...I wasn't the only one that thought it was convoluted, at least when it first came out. Haven't played it for a long time.
 
Well there's your problem. It's a passive tree, not a skill tree. Your skills are determined by the gems you socket into your gear. And the passive tree isn't complicated when you realize you just need to pick out the 4-6 keystones you want and not worry about anything beyond the path to get there.
Lack of respecs is the problem. The tree is huge and new players have no idea what is important or not.
 
It was a bit of a kick in the guts when the game director said D4 "Isn't going to be released soon... Not even Blizzard soon."

Keeping in mind Diablo 3 released 4 years after it was officially announced, looks like we still have quite a wait ahead of us.
 
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