Buy 2080Ti now, or wait for holidays?

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At some point I want to buy a 2080ti, but the question is whether prices will go down or up for the holidays? What are the predictions? If necessary I don't mind waiting until after the holidays...

I don't follow the market nowadays, is there a refresh expected for hi-end any time soon, that would warrant waiting a few months? Like a "2080 TI Super"?
 
Refresh isn't until at least first half of next year. Prices really haven't budged much on the 2080Ti which is a bummer. If it would dip under a grand for one I'd be tempted.

My plan is to sit tight and wait until next year.
 
I think we're close enough to a refresh to wait and see at this point. We're 14 months into the lifecycle.

I doubt prices will go up for the holidays. I don't see them dropping much lower either though. Might get a sale price closer to black friday/cyber monday.
 
You will get a sale around black friday probably. How good it will be is anyone's guess. Otherwise expect prices to rise in the lead up to xmas, they usually do. That's when I sold my 1080ti on ebay, got top dollar for it.
 
At some point I want to buy a 2080ti, but the question is whether prices will go down or up for the holidays? What are the predictions? If necessary I don't mind waiting until after the holidays...

I don't follow the market nowadays, is there a refresh expected for hi-end any time soon, that would warrant waiting a few months? Like a "2080 TI Super"?

I'd wait till big Navi which is currently rumored for first quarter. Extrapolating off of small Navi it should at least be competitive with the 2080ti, I'd argue this would cause Nvidia to price drop in response or release a super (ala 2070 and 2060 response to small Navi)

If you're in fire need of a car right now, get a rx480/580 used for $75
 
I'd wait till big Navi which is currently rumored for first quarter. Extrapolating off of small Navi it should at least be competitive with the 2080ti, I'd argue this would cause Nvidia to price drop in response or release a super (ala 2070 and 2060 response to small Navi)

If you're in fire need of a car right now, get a rx480/580 used for $75
As I've said I Don't mind waiting which implies I have a card. Can you really get an RX580 for 75 in the US? I'm in EU, and the cheapest ones I saw were around the $150 mark when converted. (used ofc)
 
I think we're close enough to a refresh to wait and see at this point. We're 14 months into the lifecycle.

I doubt prices will go up for the holidays. I don't see them dropping much lower either though. Might get a sale price closer to black friday/cyber monday.
Here prices are all over the place. Last month I almost got one for $1200, which is the best price I saw so far. I even ordered it, but cancelled after they missed their delivery deadline.
Now they are anywhere from $1300 to $1800 depending on the brand and the version. But the ones for $1300 come with 1 year warranty. If I'm going to drop this type of money I want at least 3 years warranty, or GTFO.
 
Here prices are all over the place. Last month I almost got one for $1200, which is the best price I saw so far. I even ordered it, but cancelled after they missed their delivery deadline.
Now they are anywhere from $1300 to $1800 depending on the brand and the version. But the ones for $1300 come with 1 year warranty. If I'm going to drop this type of money I want at least 3 years warranty, or GTFO.

I think waiting for big Navi (for competition) or even 7nm are both valid reasons right now. It’s pretty late in the cycle for the 2080ti... I like buying high end early on personally.
 
I'd wait till big Navi which is currently rumored for first quarter. Extrapolating off of small Navi it should at least be competitive with the 2080ti, I'd argue this would cause Nvidia to price drop in response or release a super (ala 2070 and 2060 response to small Navi)

If you're in fire need of a car right now, get a rx480/580 used for $75

Doubtful it will be anywhere close to a 2080 Ti. At Navi's current perf/watt that would require a card pushing 400W. It's much more likely to be a 2080 S competitor.
 
I snagged my 2080Ti FTW3 for $1200 in September, they are $1400 again now! At the time, the 2080Ti Black was on sale for $999 I believe. It was under $1000, I know that.

First half of 2020 is a rumored release of Ampere from a few sites I was reading. I'd guess May/June and similar to other series before the 20s. Probably the high/mid level, followed by a Ti version 6 to 12 months down the road from initial series release.

It's hard to say. It's all up to 3 things...
1. Do you "need" a new card to enjoy ur games maxed out?
2. Can you afford the card you want to get what you want out of a new card for your anticipated life cycle of having it?
3. Are you willing to roll the rumor dice and wait it out until a new card line?

It's always a crap shoot honestly... :) I don't see the Ti's going super cheap without a challenge. You may get a decent deal if u keep ur eyes open tho.
 
Doubtful it will be anywhere close to a 2080 Ti. At Navi's current perf/watt that would require a card pushing 400W. It's much more likely to be a 2080 S competitor.


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It's within 5-10% of a 2070 super and consumes the same amount of power as the 2070 super depending on review. Sorry bud.
 
As I've said I Don't mind waiting which implies I have a card. Can you really get an RX580 for 75 in the US? I'm in EU, and the cheapest ones I saw were around the $150 mark when converted. (used ofc)

In the us I've seen them for as low as $75. Not sure about eu though
 
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It's within 5-10% of a 2070 super and consumes the same amount of power as the 2070 super depending on review. Sorry bud.

Power consumption will go up as they increase bus width with GDDR, they will have to use HBM2 to keep power consumption down. Unless they are aiming for another limited release halo like Radeon 7 with no margins, in which case, sure it's possibly they can get close to a stock 2080 Ti if they clock the card to the moon, but good luck getting one.
 
I think waiting for big Navi (for competition) or even 7nm are both valid reasons right now. It’s pretty late in the cycle for the 2080ti... I like buying high end early on personally.
This time around it was definitely the right choice to not wait for prices to come down much since really, other than limited sales here or there, they haven't. It's still a rape this long after they released it.
 
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It's within 5-10% of a 2070 super and consumes the same amount of power as the 2070 super depending on review. Sorry bud.

Yeah, I think AMD is more up a creek when Ampere hits and nVidia is on 7nm. Hopefully they get big Navi out first. At least they are killing it on the CPU front.

The only game changer is some kind of chiplet design but most of us are skeptical for that on a GPU.

Anyways - I realize 7nm doesn’t reduce costs per transistor (negligible) but a big Navi and Intel eventually entering the market might!
 
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Power consumption will go up as they increase bus width with GDDR, they will have to use HBM2 to keep power consumption down. Unless they are aiming for another limited release halo like Radeon 7 with no margins, in which case, sure it's possibly they can get close to a stock 2080 Ti if they clock the card to the moon, but good luck getting one.
Yeah, I think AMD is more up a creek when Ampere hits and nVidia is on 7nm. Hopefully they get big Navi out first. At least they are killing it on the CPU front.

The only game changer is some kind of chiplet design but most of us are skeptical for that on a GPU.

Anyways - I realize 7nm doesn’t reduce costs per transistor (negligible) but a big Navi and Intel eventually entering the market might!

Yeah, I think high Navi will compete well with Turing high end but ampere I just dont see it competing.

Power consumption will go up as they increase bus width with GDDR, they will have to use HBM2 to keep power consumption down. Unless they are aiming for another limited release halo like Radeon 7 with no margins, in which case, sure it's possibly they can get close to a stock 2080 Ti if they clock the card to the moon, but good luck getting one.

Navi clocks fine. It's currently only 40cus. They have a fair bit of room tdp wise to add bandwidth and higher clocked gddr6.
 
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This time around it was definitely the right choice to not wait for prices to come down much since really, other than limited sales here or there, they haven't. It's still a rape this long after they released it.
People always go on about hbm being expensive (not really these days) and ignore the 800mm2 die elephant on the space invaders edition. Would love to know the BOM for that...

I'd also wait it out. Great raster, shitty RT, overpriced... Wait till next year or big navi.
 
Yeah, I think AMD is more up a creek when Ampere hits and nVidia is on 7nm. Hopefully they get big Navi out first. At least they are killing it on the CPU front.

The only game changer is some kind of chiplet design but most of us are skeptical for that on a GPU.

Anyways - I realize 7nm doesn’t reduce costs per transistor (negligible) but a big Navi and Intel eventually entering the market might!
Nvidia won't have huge clocks on 7nm though keep that in mind. Now amd has better gaming efficiency with tweaked gcn aka rdna, things are getting closer..
 
I think waiting for big Navi (for competition) or even 7nm are both valid reasons right now. It’s pretty late in the cycle for the 2080ti... I like buying high end early on personally.
I don't like to pay early adopter fees, and get rewarded with space invaders.

Not that I'm comfortable paying over $1000 for a gpu even if I can afford it. These prices are insane! Heck I paid about half of what a 2080ti costs for my 980ti. And before that I had a pair of 290x-es which was a third of the price of a 2080ti, and it was a high end card at the time.

The only reason I'm even considering a 2080ti is that I need it for renders not just gaming. The ideal choice would be a Titan RTX, but I can't afford that.
 
There’s no way I would personally buy a 2080Ti today as you’re paying top dollar for a card that’s pretty deep into its life cycle. That’s before we factor in that it’s over priced to begin with (IMO). I personally won’t be looking into a GPU until nVidia drops the 3000 series. At least then I’ll be paying overpriced, top dollar figures for something that’s brand new.
 
If the price was where it "should" be which IMHO 20-25% lower than the launch pricing at this point, I might pick one up to play around with. I have an LG C9 and there is possibility of getting gsync working with the TV now in 1440p.

I'm unable to abide the current pricing even if I could get a pretty good deal for selling my radeon 7 to offset the cost a bit.
 
If it weren't for the RTX tax the 2080Ti could be a 699 and a much smaller die. Remember the 2080Ti only has 20% more CUDA cores than the 1080Ti. This could have been achieved with a die in the 560mm2 range, smaller than the 980 Ti which was over 600mm2.

Nvidia basically decided the gamer was going to subsidize the hardware before it was even usable. It's like charging your customers for tessellation hardware tax in the early 2000s before any games could take advantage of it.
 
I think they'll launch prior to Cyberpunk 2077. I'm on the fence myself but I want a full new build, nothing is pushing me to do so at this point with game launches through the end of the year.
 
Its the best performing GPU on the market atm, buy now if you want that. It will most likely still perform very well a year from now, no matter what else comes out.

I'm a year in to a RTX2070 with zero regrets, money well spent and needs met. Been 100% enjoying it.
 
Prices wont drop during the holidays as per usual. What you will get though is more perceived value per $ with game bundles. Most solid deals are usually when you have pricing errors (not the best use of time) or when companies run random coupon codes.
 
You could always check hardwareswap on reddit for deals. I got a brand new 2080 Ti Black for $900 on there.
 
Nvidia won't have huge clocks on 7nm though keep that in mind. Now amd has better gaming efficiency with tweaked gcn aka rdna, things are getting closer..

Except they don't?

AMD hasn't been ahead in gaming efficiency in years, and they haven't been solidly ahead since their graphics division was named ATi. Quite the opposite, really, while Nvidia has innovated year on year in terms of performance per watt. I wouldn't bet on AMD having any more advantage in the future than the disadvantage they have today, most especially when they make another attempt at the top-end with late-to-the-game hardware RT.

We all know how AMDs top-end attempts wind up!
 
When it comes to graphics cards, buy now. Waiting when you can be maxing out now is goofy to say the least. There is always something better down the road, well except for AMD/ATI which since Fury and Vega has been all smoke and mirrors and bullshit. (I am not getting into any pissing match AMD vs Nvidia. I left after having everything from Radeon DDR all the way to Radeon X1900 XT and nothing but driver/visual abnormalities which is still problems that plague them today. Last Radeon was a 4660 in my daughters Webkins PC. Brother has a 580 in his rig, my nephews take care of that POS) I personally needed the 2080Ti for 4K gaming on the big screen in my sig.

Besides, resale on top end Nvidia Cards is high. Sold my 1080Ti for $500 and my 980Ti for $350 last month. So infact, you could still get a decent price on a 2080S or Ti when selling and get the next series(Amphere). I bet 80% of will do just that when the Ti version of Amphere comes out.

Buy now, you could fall tomorrow, smack your head and die or get it by a car/bus, stray bullet. Did you get to enjoy your new card? NO! You had to wait!
 
Its the best performing GPU on the market atm, buy now if you want that. It will most likely still perform very well a year from now, no matter what else comes out.

I'm a year in to a RTX2070 with zero regrets, money well spent and needs met. Been 100% enjoying it.

I agree. I have had my 2080Ti for quite some time with no regrets. Buy now if you want.
 
Buy now, you could fall tomorrow, smack your head and die or get it by a car/bus, stray bullet. Did you get to enjoy your new card? NO! You had to wait!
While I get some people simply don't have the means, in which case PC gaming should probably not even be a concern, I 100% agree with this. There is always something new around the corner, and for most, this should be a hobby, not a life requirement. So if you have the means and enjoy being on the edge of technology and graphics, enjoy it!!! I generally draw the line at, can I max my games out anymore at acceptable FPS levels. If the answer is no, I target and upgrade path with what's best at the time.
 
Almost ironic how the 2080 ti owners are trying to tell you how to spend your $1,200 and whether or not it is a timely purchase.

At this point in the life cycle, I would buy a mid-range stop gap card like a 5700 or a 2060 Super both will give you pretty decent frame rates now. Then save your money for what is surely coming next spring. I would like to think that if RT is your thing the new gen would be better at it than the mess it is now. Instead of taking a several hundred dollar hit selling a used high-end card, maybe you only take $100 hit selling a used mid-range card if you upgrade later.
 
Almost ironic how the 2080 ti owners are trying to tell you how to spend your $1,200 and whether or not it is a timely purchase.

At this point in the life cycle, I would buy a mid-range stop gap card like a 5700 or a 2060 Super both will give you pretty decent frame rates now. Then save your money for what is surely coming next spring. I would like to think that if RT is your thing the new gen would be better at it than the mess it is now. Instead of taking a several hundred dollar hit selling a used high-end card, maybe you only take $100 hit selling a used mid-range card if you upgrade later.

Sit down.

OP asked if he should buy now or wait for possible price drops. OP wants a 2080TI. OP did not ask if he should wait for next gen.
 
And...

It doesn't hurt to point out the proximity to next gen to assist the OP in making a better informed decision.
This is an incredibly valid statement

AMD is rumored to be releasing "Big Navi" soon and *cough* it might beat the 2080Ti in performance. Not to mention the near instantaneous response that Nvidia will almost certainly have, with a card they have in reserve just waiting to drop.

Even taking advantage of the EVGA B-Stock sale and spending less than a Grand on a card that will (likely) be getting it's ass kicked in a couple months might not be the best option. If you don't already have a 2080Ti, you might want to wait or spend your money on an excellent mid to high range solution like the 5700XT which can be had for around 400 bucks or less depending upon the promo.
 
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