German Muscle
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those are supposedly stock clocks
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those are supposedly stock clocks
Links are always nice with screenshots.
Can someone help me with this question regarding IPC on these cpus vs's the IPC on the 9900k.... Will these cpus be faster then the 9900k clock speed for clock speed? or no? hoping to build me a nice tinkering pc with either the 3950x or 10940 i9 cpu and having a hard time deciding.... Thank you
Your all boards having m.2 through pch is false.absolutely not.
unless you use AVX512 they will be slower than zen2, a 12 core zen2 will beat a higher clocked 14 core.
Only arguments in My book is.
X299 boards aren't that pricey.
quite a lot of pci-e lanes (3.0 though)
4 channel memory for memory capacity.
Avx512.
My arguments against:
Current X299 boards have all M2's through chipset (Not good...)
Inferior IPC.
Terrible Latency (Gaming suffers)
Very high power draw.
still too expensive if looking at cpu performance
My bottom line: the pro's must be real darn important to warrant a buy.
This is how a 8 core with Cascade improvements likely would far performance wise, they've specifically improved the Mesh for lower latency and improved game performance and somewhat IPC.
https://static.techspot.com/articles-info/1457/bench/FC.png
About the same as zen+ probably ?
they may have done minor improvements to get it slightly better
5ghz all 18 cores?
Your all boards having m.2 through pch is false.
It's also kind of a big stretch to say these chips which are a new architecture is the same performance as skylake x. Let's wait until the reviews and see what it really is instead of assuming.
Went from saying "All" to "broadly speaking" and "generally". What all X299 boards/chips do you have experience with working with btw? Im also curious as to what you mean by the terrible latency that you spoke of?Broadly speaking M2 is generally through chipset and at minimum 2 first are through chipset for first gen x299 due to Kabylake-X if they have 3 they may use cpu lanes and be non KBL-X exclusive.
The m2's through chipset is a X299 specification
On second gen motherboards we might assume this is not the case.
Second, new architecture argument, it's not "assumptions" and we know how they're performing in servers hence we know generally what improvements we see on desktop.
8180 vs 8280, 200 mhz difference + some mesh frequency that's about it.
https://www.servethehome.com/intel-xeon-platinum-8280-benchmarks-and-review/2/
Edit:
Cpu architecture changes:
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/microarchitectures/cascade_lake
AVX512 VNNI
So it's for almost in every way the same architecture just refreshed.
Went from saying "All" to "broadly speaking" and "generally". What all X299 boards/chips do you have experience with working with btw? Im also curious as to what you mean by the terrible latency that you spoke of?
Sadly you are assuming. I prefer real world numbers rather then assuming everything is the same and that its just a refresh.
Can you put together at least one sentence when when posting such a long video?
It's basically clickbait with Cascade Lake in the title as it is simply an overview of a refreshed x299 board. Fun!
It's hard to say if those will support the older CPU's and vice versa. Later iterations of the X299 we already have dropped support for the Core i7 7740X.
Looks like the KabyX will be dropped for most boards.
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/i...core-i5-7640x-and-i7-7740x-(kaby-lake-x).html
I have. The ASUS X299 Prime doesn't support it. I would know, I have both a Kaby Lake X CPU and that very board. They do not work together.
I believe it, it's not like the warning didn't exist for nothing. I just don't have a 7740x to test them with. Anyways, which model of prime? *it could be all of them, they just do a poor job of warning people*
When I went to review that board awhile back, the Core i7 7740X was the only LGA2066 CPU I had on hand and it didn't work. I checked with ASUS and sure enough, it wasn't supported. So I had to borrow a CPU from Kyle to do the article.
I won't be able to get my hands on the 7740x till December, so I won't be able to test my MSI boards. Why do I care? It's more of a hobby thing.
Why would you want one? It's literally the dumbest processor Intel ever released for its HEDT platform. It defeats the entire purpose of going to an HEDT motherboard by crippling the board's extra features. The only thing it buys you is a whopping 100-200MHz of overclocking headroom over the standard mainstream equivalent CPU.
I have. The ASUS X299 Prime doesn't support it. I would know, I have both a Kaby Lake X CPU and that very board. They do not work together.
When I originally purchased it, it was used cheap. I never regretted purchasing it. lol
Take care there's big leaks on new unannounced 10nm Intel line to start deliveries at the beginning of 2020. The leaks are nearly official from Intel Canada asking their clients to wait...well, pretty confirmed the 3950x ill be getting my hard earned monies
Take care there's big leaks on new unannounced 10nm Intel line to start deliveries at the beginning of 2020. The leaks are nearly official from Intel Canada asking their clients to wait...
Intel has been converting all his factories and everything is now on schedule as it was supposed to be. And Ice Lake core is much faster on Desktop than Zen 2. Better IPC, better speed, lower consumption. Because of this, such a 12 core Intel CPU will obliterate a 16 core 3950X.
IMO, Skylake mobile wasn't a promising clocker, either. Being better than Broadwell isn't much of an achievement, considering its regression from Ivy Bridge, even if some of that was the "over promise" of the 15W U series vs the 35W M SKUs. Took until Kaby Lake R to really push it beyond what Ivy Bridge "M" was already capable of.Ice Lake clocks have not looked promising in the mobile market compared to Skylake.
Being a mesh setup, even gaming does not justify these parts over the baby TR lineup: