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Yup. As others said, it's $222 now. At amazon, where I got a 10 Tb Elements for $159.49 less 6% points as I use my AZ CC....Best Buy would have been 5% in points for using that CC...

I stopped getting them from BB myself whenever I have the chance. Last two times I have gotten opened drives. First time I get home and noticed one didn't have the plastic wrapper on it, but was sticker sealed. Opened up the drive and it had a 1TB Seagate in it, the other 3 were fine, the next time I got 2 more drives and one had a dead drive in it, label ripped off, so I don't know what it was however the box WAS sealed in plastic. All of the ones I have gotten from Amazon have been good, considering how often I have gotten opened drives from BB, I will pass.
 
BB has a crazy amount of return/swap stuff going on. From graphic cards, electronics, TV, and appliances. I used to work at Geek Squad in college, was pretty fun!
 
I stopped getting them from BB myself whenever I have the chance. Last two times I have gotten opened drives. First time I get home and noticed one didn't have the plastic wrapper on it, but was sticker sealed. Opened up the drive and it had a 1TB Seagate in it, the other 3 were fine, the next time I got 2 more drives and one had a dead drive in it, label ripped off, so I don't know what it was however the box WAS sealed in plastic. All of the ones I have gotten from Amazon have been good, considering how often I have gotten opened drives from BB, I will pass.
Thats crazy, I haven't had any issue in the 15 I've gotten so far, tbf only about half of them were in store the rest I had shipped to me.
 
Thats crazy, I haven't had any issue in the 15 I've gotten so far, tbf only about half of them were in store the rest I had shipped to me.

Shipped are different it seems, as the ones I have had shipped when the local store was OOS, were all good, but Amazon ships to me faster, so I use them. The local stores don't seem to check anything like they should, and are trying to get rid of open box items as new, because my orders were placed online and pickup in store.
 
Shipped are different it seems, as the ones I have had shipped when the local store was OOS, were all good, but Amazon ships to me faster, so I use them. The local stores don't seem to check anything like they should, and are trying to get rid of open box items as new, because my orders were placed online and pickup in store.
i have like 5 or 8 of these and no issue. so odd
 
Are people still getting reds in these?
The reds are generally only in stores rarely visited/purchased in rural parts of the country (most of these that might have the red are the 2017 manuf. version)
99% likelyhood it'll be the white label variant.
 
These are normal prices with their profit baked in.

Increasing the prices 80% and offering a deal at 35% off


8TB

$130

$16.25 / TB

MSRP $200

10TB

$160

$16.00 / TB

MSRP $250 / $300



Not aware of anyone buying them at the MSRP and if you're buying QTY, HDD's can be had < $12 / TB
 
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It like increasing the prices 20% and offering a 15% off coupon

8TB - $130 (MSRP $200)
10TB - $160 (MSRP $250/$300)

are the normal prices.

Not aware of anyone buying them at the MSRP and if you're buying QTY, HDD's can be had <$12/TB

Yup normal marketing tactics, but since these allow a lower cost of entry into the enterprise grade hdd, for an average user its hard to get any better. The QTY probably is a pallet i assume?

Now the only thing i dont get, is that since the dawn of these hdds, its been said that these are WD reds, just with a white label. My thing is their any reason why they dont use the standard RED label (minus resellers of course)?
 
Now the only thing i dont get, is that since the dawn of these hdds, its been said that these are WD reds, just with a white label. My thing is their any reason why they dont use the standard RED label (minus resellers of course)?

Well they could be drives that failed some part of the manufacturing process and had to be reworked, hence lesser quality than retail drives.
 
Maybe binning involved, production in a less stringent facility and things like that. Warranty and support is the biggest factor.

A business doesn't have time to shuck things and put them back in to do warranty and wait weeks. They need it today if it breaks and want same day or overnight cross shipment.

At scale have redundancy and batch up replacements like Google, Backblaze, et. al
 
Maybe binning involved, production in a less stringent facility and things like that. Warranty and support is the biggest factor.

A business doesn't have time to shuck things and put them back in to do warranty and wait weeks. They need it today if it breaks and want same day or overnight cross shipment.

At scale have redundancy and batch up replacements like Google, Backblaze, et. al

I wonder if anyones done a stress test long term or over the projected lifespan in the specs to see if drives (red bought normally and a white label shucked) would differ in a large sample size keeping the conditions the same.

Ie Backblaze or large operations just for kicks
 
...these allow a lower cost of entry into the enterprise grade hdd...
I would NOT consider these to be an enterprise class drive.

Enterprise class drives are almost always 7200rpm and come with a 5 year warranty and MTBF of 2M+. I suspect these drives may have started their life to be enterprise drives and then failed certain tests and then were binned accordingly for less demanding use. Not bad drives by any means, but I definitely wouldn't call them enterprise class.
 
I wonder if anyones done a stress test long term or over the projected lifespan in the specs to see if drives (red bought normally and a white label shucked) would differ in a large sample size keeping the conditions the same.

Ie Backblaze or large operations just for kicks

https://www.backblaze.com/b2/hard-drive-test-data.html

enjoy

I would NOT consider these to be an enterprise class drive.

Enterprise class drives are almost always 7200rpm and come with a 5 year warranty and MTBF of 2M+. I suspect these drives may have started their life to be enterprise drives and then failed certain tests and then were binned accordingly for less demanding use. Not bad drives by any means, but I definitely wouldn't call them enterprise class.

^ that 100%
 
Well they could be drives that failed some part of the manufacturing process and had to be reworked, hence lesser quality than retail drives.
That's my thinking as to what they are. Because there are a TON of these, and they are selling for almost 1/2 the cost of other drives, so that means the actual manufacturing cost on them is even less than that, approaching zero. The only thing with a cost of zero is scrap/waste or something that was going to be thrown away. Then you could mark it up just a hair and still have the same profit margin.
 
Warranty and support is the biggest factor.

A business doesn't have time to shuck things and put them back in to do warranty and wait weeks. They need it today if it breaks and want same day or overnight cross shipment.
You've nailed the drawback of these on the head--the warranty.

If a business is using these for an off-site external backup, they'll do their job well, but for shucking purposes it's sometimes easier to buy a true enterprise class drive at 2x the cost than to buy 2x of these shucked just to have a spare.
 
I wonder if anyones done a stress test long term or over the projected lifespan in the specs to see if drives (red bought normally and a white label shucked) would differ in a large sample size keeping the conditions the same.

Ie Backblaze or large operations just for kicks
I'm sure WD did something like this to figure out how to market and sell the drives. They surely didn't want a 20% return rate or anything like that.

I know servethehome did compare the performance of the shucked drive vs a true red in this article:
https://www.servethehome.com/wd-wd100emaz-easystore-10tb-external-backup-drive-review/

In the comments of the article, it seems some users are having issues with these with bad/reallocated sectors in synology units:
https://www.servethehome.com/wd-wd1...-external-backup-drive-review/#comment-464921
 
I have 4 white labled ones that worked when I first got them and have been powered off for like the last 2 months. I went to plug them into my server to use them temporarily and I cant seem to get them to be seen by HDsentinel or disk manager.

Any advice? Did they die in the last 2 months or am I stupid and just missing something simple?
 
I have 4 white labled ones that worked when I first got them and have been powered off for like the last 2 months. I went to plug them into my server to use them temporarily and I cant seem to get them to be seen by HDsentinel or disk manager.

Any advice? Did they die in the last 2 months or am I stupid and just missing something simple?

Did you check that 3.3v is disabled from the power supply connector?
 
My 4224 has 3.3v, yeah it's a pain. I used clear nail polish until the kapton tape came in. The polish needs to dry 24+ hours to survive an insert.

Here's all you need to know.
 
I just used scotch tape for a while.
that safe?

I did 2 layers of scotch take on the first 3 pins (+3.3v) and still wont work. I'll just have to wait til tomorrow for the tape. Couldnt find 35 dollars worth of same day stuff so its on 2 day shipping.
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Not sure what you mean by safe. I don't think it is going to start a fire or damage equipment if that is what you mean. The tape is just on pin 3, although I can't imagine why it wouldn't work on all 3 pins.
 
What I use:
This due to not wanting to add a section of molex cables for one terminal.
If you have molex available then this.
Haven't had a single problem and it has been in use since June of 2018 on a 8TB and now a 10TB.
 
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