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All that may be true, but "surplus" keys from bankrupt companies aren't what the eBay shitheads are selling -- they're peddling MSDN keys pure and simple.From what I've found looking at this a couple of years ago is that actually many are also surplus keys/licenses from companies gone bankrupt, upgraded, etc and there are companies that specialize in this market of locating and buying the licenses for resale.
While many if not most license agreements claim to disallow this there have been a number of court cases on it in both directions both here and in Europe where the courts have ruled that disallowing resale, denying support, etc violates certain anti-trust and free market laws regarding fair use. http://www.clearlicensing.org/secondary-market/
That being said I do not think the US has agreed or passed laws allowing it but in Europe they have and Microsoft (nor other companies) can do anything about it. The US Supreme Court has made rulings on first sale doctrine but it applied to physical products. I dont think they have really clearly addressed software licenses here in the US though.
One of the issues that would ultimately come up is that software retailers would then push for more licensing to be time limited and getting rid of perpetual licensing (which is already something most are moving towards anyways).
What I've seen though - most of the licenses on eBay are VLK and MAK keys. Technically using them is a violation of the licensing agreements (if you are in the USA). However they will more often than not work just fine and will never stop working as long as you activate it fairly quick. One issue is these types of keys are generally valid for a specific number of activations at which point Microsoft activation servers will block any further activations. The problem is both with the resellers and many buyers. The problems with activation generally are more due to buyers who buy a single license and than install and activate the key on multiple machines which uses more of the allowable activations. The seller often will not know this and try to sell more activations of that key which then might get blocked resulting in angry buyers. A seller can check the number of activations using the Volume Licensing Service Center on the MS website or VAMT from MS but most do not. What can happen though is if the key becomes widespread or publicly known in which case MS might blacklist the key. If that happens than the WGA component will trigger a deactivation and prevent future updates and potentially limited functionality so there is certainly some level of risk.
I would almost rather people pirate Windows than to think they are "going legit" buying $10 miracle deal keys. At least that way you are not promoting and giving money to people obviously doing something illegal.Court cases aside... you can't buy a companies bankrupt keys and use them. You can't resell your own personal keys. There is no legal way to do this. Read the MS EULA.
If you want a server os and you don't want to pay for it there are plenty of far superior Linux and BSD options.
If you want a desktop version of windows that lets you control your OS for free... pirate it.
Seriously that is all your doing anyway. Why pretend buying $20 keys is anything less. (or again run a complete free superior OS)
I would almost rather people pirate Windows than to think they are "going legit" buying $10 miracle deal keys. At least that way you are not promoting and giving money to people obviously doing something illegal.
Buying a $10 key for Windows or Office is no more legit than pirating it. Bottom line.
Buying a $10 key for Windows or Office is no more legit than pirating it. Bottom line.
There are people on here that sell $25 Office/Windows Pro keys as legit and non-MSDN.
So how much would a 2016/2019 key actually supposed to go for? I see a tier of keys selling for ~$100 as well. I'm also quite familiar with Ubuntu LTS servers, but for this specific case I need Windows because Nvidia + Linux = sadness.
Edit: Seems to me the ROI of buying grey market keys seems to be better. If those $100 keys are legit, and assume those $10 keys are revoked 1 year later, you can use 10 years of keys to break even to $100.
Hmm... looks like in addition, there is a per core licensing above 16 physical cores. So I may just bite the bullet and move to Ubuntu Server.
Basically its a relatively proprietary setup with hardware raid and HVEC encoding needs via a Pascal Quadro card.
Seeing as you have some Ubuntu LTS experience. I would say just go with Ubuntus latest non LTS. Its solid... it doesn't ship with the Nvidia closed source driver installed, but its easy to switch to then you should be mostly golden.
https://developer.nvidia.com/nvidia-video-codec-sdk and if your solution is extremely custom, Linux would be the easier OS to deal with I would imagine. There is a reason whey all professional encoding is done on Linux servers.
Not really. The main project I'm attached to (Windows DPDK) is there because much of the encoding solutions need to be Windows.
You mean the Linux foundations Data Plane Development Kit ?
Its hardly a windows technology, but it is logical that MS recently announced they where implementing it in win server 2019. I guess if you are working on a commercial project using windows server and DPDK I would suggest you might just want to bite the bullet and purchase an actual copy of Win Server 2019 or perhaps get in on the insider program and run testing versions. If your clients project is based on windows server perhaps that is the way to go.
Yes, the starting drive to port it to Windows was due to SDI applications that were Windows based. Thus the Nvidia encode issues with Linux.
What Nvidia encode issues with Linux? The VFX industry specifically uses Linux based Render farms using Nvidia hardware, I'm not aware of any Nvidia encode issues under Linux.
Court cases aside... you can't buy a companies bankrupt keys and use them. You can't resell your own personal keys. There is no legal way to do this. Read the MS EULA.
If you want a server os and you don't want to pay for it there are plenty of far superior Linux and BSD options.
If you want a desktop version of windows that lets you control your OS for free... pirate it.
Seriously that is all your doing anyway. Why pretend buying $20 keys is anything less. (or again run a complete free superior OS)
Hopefully I don't get into trouble. I sold this to a member here awhile back since I didn't need it. Had Technet at the time.
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Hopefully I don't get into trouble. I sold this to a member here awhile back since I didn't need it. Had Technet at the time.
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You can sell your personal keys, at least in the EU, and possibly Australia. Companies' keys may be subject to restrictions but it depends on the specifics. It is possible to resell some of those as well.Court cases aside... you can't buy a companies bankrupt keys and use them. You can't resell your own personal keys. There is no legal way to do this. Read the MS EULA.
there are 2 discs, the other is 64bit.Looks all fancy, fancy enough to frame...Then you see it: 32-bit software.
Not sure what you mean. I've been playing 100+ hours of borderlands on Linux + NVidia...?There are people on here that sell $25 Office/Windows Pro keys as legit and non-MSDN.
So how much would a 2016/2019 key actually supposed to go for? I see a tier of keys selling for ~$100 as well. I'm also quite familiar with Ubuntu LTS servers, but for this specific case I need Windows because Nvidia + Linux = sadness.
Edit: Seems to me the ROI of buying grey market keys seems to be better. If those $100 keys are legit, and assume those $10 keys are revoked 1 year later, you can use 10 years of keys to break even to $100.
Not sure what you mean. I've been playing 100+ hours of borderland son Linux + NVidia...?