NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

Nice job on the tests Smooty. Did you use a thermal pad or thermal paste? Just kidding, saw where you used Kryonaut.

It's interesting to see the differences when the bottom fans are set to intake. I also have to say that I became annoyed with my pump speed noise at 100% (3000 rpm) and have since lowered it all the way down (2000 rpm) and it is significantly quieter to the point where it doesn't bother me anymore.

Haha! :p

So it interesting to compare the results with your results.. They show every different results (from my perspective).

@60% (like your test) there is only 4.6c degrees between the best 240 AIO setup and the best C14 setup in my testing. That is with 3 fans on the 240mm. If we take the best results the AIO performed with 2 fans - like your test - the difference is only 2.2c degrees difference. When we look at your test it says 14 degress difference.

This makes me think.. What did we do differently.

1) Mine has buttom intake - which could give an egde to the C14 as it is a more open cooler that can take air from both the side and from the buttom.. whereas the AIO is strictly getting air from the side as it is locked off from the bottom.. So this could explain some of it maybe?

2) You have ramped fan speed. I dont. But that should not really do anything.. It should actually only make your results from the worst setup better. Not the other way around.

3) You of cause use a different CLC/AIO. It can be that the EVGA 240 CLC is just that much better.. or? I chose the H100i Platinum because of the swivel fittings, so that I could mount it better.. and even mount a fan more I found out. And also because it should before better then the Asetek design from what I could find online. But maybe that is bullocks?..

4..?
 
To me these tests shouldn't be directly compared simply due to the Accelero. Changing the bottom fans from exhaust to intake changes everything. All the heat from the Accelero leaves the case very quickly and doesn't hit the CPU cooler, whereas stock GPU configs dump all that heat into the case and subsequently adds more heat to the sink. If anything, your results show which CPU cooler can deal with even more heat than I threw at it (OC + GPU heat).

I really enjoyed looking over your results though, and I can totally appreciate how much time and effort all of these tests take - so thank you for doing it. If anyone ever has any questions about stock GPU configs I'll happily point them to your post. If you feel like doing C14S testing let me know, I'd be happy to loan you mine!
 
To me these tests shouldn't be directly compared simply due to the Accelero. Changing the bottom fans from exhaust to intake changes everything. All the heat from the Accelero leaves the case very quickly and doesn't hit the CPU cooler, whereas stock GPU configs dump all that heat into the case and subsequently adds more heat to the sink. If anything, your results show which CPU cooler can deal with even more heat than I threw at it (OC + GPU heat).

I really enjoyed looking over your results though, and I can totally appreciate how much time and effort all of these tests take - so thank you for doing it. If anyone ever has any questions about stock GPU configs I'll happily point them to your post. If you feel like doing C14S testing let me know, I'd be happy to loan you mine!

I would gladly do it. Just dont think it will be financially viable.. Shipping costs would make it unfeasable :-P

But be aware that my tests does not stress the GPU as the majority of your tests do. So the GPU is only 7W (GPU strictly) of heat into the system. Its only the buttom 3 tests in the sheet that show a Prime95 Small FFTs + Furmark bench results.. Which show a difference of 6c. Still inline with the other tests i did without the GPU stress test.

Infact. If we look at the 80% fan speed test with and without the GPU dumping all the heat from the GTX 1060 (rated at 120w, and measured with HWInfo) inside the case, the difference with the C14 (3x120mm fans intake) is only 1,4c difference. The H100i plat is only 1,6c difference.

120W is not the 180W of the 1080 nor the 250w of the 1080 Ti, but still. Shows very little difference in my tests. If anybody have a spare 1080 (ti) laying around I would be happy to test the difference :-P

So I am wondering if I am doing something wrong (or better?) then what the normal consensus is about the exhaust from buttom.

So I still think we can compare the results showhow and wonder why they are different, because my results show that even with GPU power turned on, the difference between the H100i plat and the C14 is not really that big. Had i known the difference was this small I would have hurried along with it much faster and sent the H100i back before the return period was over. Now just a couble of days over the end of that periode I think I will try the AIO for a bit and see if I can stand the pump noise - so far its not going good :-D
 
Guys I have ripped my 1080 ti ripped apart for the accelro 3 build. Where does the insulation tape go on a 1080 to sc2 evga? Also on the two noctuas at the bottom, is it best to run them on the GPU pcb?

And just to make sure, I want the GPU fans as exhaust correct?

Edit: did yall put the backplate back on or leave it off?
 
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Where does the insulation tape go on a 1080 to sc2 evga?

Same place it was when you took the GPU apart (and it is thermal tape, not insulation tape)...

Also on the two noctuas at the bottom, is it best to run them on the GPU pcb?

Yes, you will need at minimum a 2-way fan splitter & a 4-pin > VGA / mini 4-pin adapter...

IF your GPU has TWO fan headers, then run the fans separately, one off of each header (so no splitter & TWO adapters)...

I put a Morpheus II heat sink on a EVGA GTX 1070 SC2 ICX, that had separate fan headers; one fan over GPU & one fan over VRMs...

And just to make sure, I want the GPU fans as exhaust correct?

Yes...

Edit: did yall put the backplate back on or leave it off?

For the aforementioned 1070 mod, I was able to retain the backplate & the cold plate, just pulling the shroud / fans / heatsink...
 
On a personal note, I absolutely hate when people use ellipses the wrong way. FFS man, use a period. lol
 
Hi guys,

I'm currently using the M1 with a fairly dated system.

The main parts of my rigs is:

i5 3470 + stock cooler
reference 980ti
8gb ram
850evo 120GB
1tb toshiba

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The main problem I am having is noise due to the coolers. I do plan on up grading my rig by the end of the year and still use the same case. I would mainly changing my CPU to the non K i7.

I was thinking if I am able to do anything with the cooling/noise now that can be moved over to my new rig. Keeping in mind that I am not planning on overclocking the i7 when I get it and noise it a more important factor. What CPU cooler would you recommend?

As for the reference 980ti, is my best bet to get the Accelero iii?



On the side note, I do plan on getting the tempered glass side panel if it ever comes on sale. Where would you recommend to get cables that would fit the M1 without too much excess? I dont really need anything fancy, just shorter black cables.
 
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Hi guys,

I'm currently using the M1 with a fairly dated system.

The main parts of my rigs is:

i5 3470 + stock cooler
reference 980ti
8gb ram
850evo 120GB
1tb toshiba

----------------------

The main problem I am having is noise due to the coolers. I do plan on up grading my rig by the end of the year and still use the same case. I would mainly changing my CPU to the non K i7.

I was thinking if I am able to do anything with the cooling/noise now that can be moved over to my new rig. Keeping in mind that I am not planning on overclocking the i7 when I get it and noise it a more important factor. What CPU cooler would you recommend?

As for the reference 980ti, is my best bet to get the Accelero iii?



On the side note, I do plan on getting the tempered glass side panel if it ever comes on sale. Where would you recommend to get cables that would fit the M1 without too much excess? I dont really need anything fancy, just shorter black cables.

I believe the Noctua NH-U9S will fit that older motherboard. There have been a few posts here of good cooling results with a window side panel and that cooler mounted to intake air from the rear panel and the Accelero Xtreme with bottom 120x25 mm fans exhausting. Search on YouTube for Optimum Tech's video.
 
I believe the Noctua NH-U9S will fit that older motherboard. There have been a few posts here of good cooling results with a window side panel and that cooler mounted to intake air from the rear panel and the Accelero Xtreme with bottom 120x25 mm fans exhausting. Search on YouTube for Optimum Tech's video.

Thank you for the reply.

Seems like the Accelero III would still be my best bet on the GPU side. Which 120x25mm fans would you recommend to get?

As for the CPU, when it comes to noise, would you recommend the U9S over the C14S?
 
A larger heatsink with larger fans will always be quieter, in principle. A non-K i7 can probably be cooled adequately by the NH-U9S. You might not even need two fans on the heatsink if you add an intake fan to the rear panel. For the NH-C14S I think you are limited to a fan on the underside of its fins with the window side panel. I'm not certain. Another consideration with a window side panel may be which cooler will look better? The C14S will definitely block more of the view.
 
A larger heatsink with larger fans will always be quieter, in principle. A non-K i7 can probably be cooled adequately by the NH-U9S. You might not even need two fans on the heatsink if you add an intake fan to the rear panel. For the NH-C14S I think you are limited to a fan on the underside of its fins with the window side panel. I'm not certain. Another consideration with a window side panel may be which cooler will look better? The C14S will definitely block more of the view.

Ahh i see, so the audibility for both the U9S & C14S should be similar? I did a bit of searching and heard that the C14S wont fit into the M1 without some tweaking, what are the considerations I need to take into account when installing a C14S IF it is quieter than the U9S?

As for the fan configuration how should I do it so that it would be on the quieter side?

Using the U9S -

Exhaust port - NF A9
U9S - Single NF A9
Accelero III - Remove fans, replace with 2 NF F12

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Using NH C14S

Exhaust port - no fan
C14S - Single NF F12 on the bottom
Accelero III- Remove fans, replace with 2 NF F12
 
Ahh i see, so the audibility for both the U9S & C14S should be similar? I did a bit of searching and heard that the C14S wont fit into the M1 without some tweaking, what are the considerations I need to take into account when installing a C14S IF it is quieter than the U9S?

As for the fan configuration how should I do it so that it would be on the quieter side?

Using the U9S -

Exhaust port - NF A9
U9S - Single NF A9
Accelero III - Remove fans, replace with 2 NF F12

-----

Using NH C14S

Exhaust port - no fan
C14S - Single NF F12 on the bottom
Accelero III- Remove fans, replace with 2 NF F12



U9S + Accelero + TG window - Attach one 92mm fan on the chassis as intake. Attach one 92mm fan on the right side of the sink as pull. Attach 2x120mm fans underneath the Accelero as exhaust.

C14S + Accelero + TG window - Contact Noctua and request a pair of NM-SFC14 clips. Attach one 92mm (possibly slim depending on socket placement) on the rear chassis as intake. Attach one 120mm fan underneath the C14S blowing towards the glass. Attach 2x120mm fans undereath the Accelero as exhaust.

The C14S setup is about 4C cooler, so if you want a much easier installation path without any hassle, go with the U9S.

Recommended fans are the NF-A12x25's. They're significantly more quiet than the NF-F12's.
 
Ahh i see, so the audibility for both the U9S & C14S should be similar? I did a bit of searching and heard that the C14S wont fit into the M1 without some tweaking, what are the considerations I need to take into account when installing a C14S IF it is quieter than the U9S?

As for the fan configuration how should I do it so that it would be on the quieter side?

Using the U9S -

Exhaust port - NF A9
U9S - Single NF A9
Accelero III - Remove fans, replace with 2 NF F12

-----

Using NH C14S

Exhaust port - no fan
C14S - Single NF F12 on the bottom
Accelero III- Remove fans, replace with 2 NF F12

No, some users have used the NH-C14S. You need to search more. There are complications such as the heatsink being too tall for a 25 mm thick fan on top, so a slim fan is needed there, if one is placed there at all. A window side panel reduces the clearance 2-3 mm more. Also, I think with a fan on the underside the power supply needs to be mounted in the ATX power supply bracket using an SFX-ATX adapter.

If you use the NH-U9S with a side window, the rear panel fan should be an intake. Also, check the Noctua installation instructions to make sure the heatsink is rotated correctly for intake from the rear panel.
U9S + Accelero + TG window - Attach one 92mm fan on the chassis as intake. Attach one 92mm fan on the right side of the sink as pull. Attach 2x120mm fans underneath the Accelero as exhaust.

C14S + Accelero + TG window - Contact Noctua and request a pair of NM-SFC14 clips. Attach one 92mm (possibly slim depending on socket placement) on the rear chassis as intake. Attach one 120mm fan underneath the C14S blowing towards the glass. Attach 2x120mm fans undereath the Accelero as exhaust.

The C14S setup is about 4C cooler, so if you want a much easier installation path without any hassle, go with the U9S.

Recommended fans are the NF-A12x25's. They're significantly more quiet than the NF-F12's.

Is it possible to have a 25 mm thick fan under the C14S (not the discontinued C14) without having to mount an SFX power supply in the ATX PS bracket (using an SFX-ATX adapter)?
 
Is it possible to have a 25 mm thick fan under the C14S (not the discontinued C14) without having to mount an SFX power supply in the ATX PS bracket (using an SFX-ATX adapter)?

Yes, one 120mm fan will fit with the PSU in the SFX position.

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Thank you very much for all your advice. Hopefully I'll have the funds to get the cooling gear needed soon.
 
Where can I purchase the side bracket, and the screw stock set of screws?
Friend needs a side bracket for his system and I'd like to replace missing screws.
 
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Oh, I didn't realise that SFFLAB don't sell those accessories for the M1. That's a bit disappointing, because when it was being sold direct there were loads of accessories, such as replacement panel kits - but now I see that SFFLAB aren't planning to restock the panel kits, which sucks - and that there might be a V6 that has panels that are incompatible with previous versions, so anyone with a current M1 is shit out of luck if they want or need replacement panels. Boo.
 
Hey Hardforum!

My M1 V5 just shipped, super exciting and should be here in a week or two!!

I want to know if i'm being realistic in terms of cooling and see what you guys/gals of my build.

MOBO: Asus ROG strix Z390-I
CPU: I9 9900K
Cooler: Noctua NH-D9L
GPU: Gigabyte 1080TI Gaming 11GB
RAM: Kingston Hyperx 3000mhz 16GBx2
PSU: Corsair SF600
Storage: 1Xm.2 , 2X2.5 SSD , 1X2.5 HD , 1X3.5 HD

im not sure what fans im gonna use yet, as i dont know how much space ill have, but i own 2 90mm Noctua fans and am ready to buy whatever else i need.

im a touring VJ so this is my touring rig (hence the SFF) but also my studio rig , so heavy loads are a daily thing.

Thanks community!
 
Hey Hardforum!

My M1 V5 just shipped, super exciting and should be here in a week or two!!

I want to know if i'm being realistic in terms of cooling and see what you guys/gals of my build.

MOBO: Asus ROG strix Z390-I
CPU: I9 9900K
Cooler: Noctua NH-D9L
GPU: Gigabyte 1080TI Gaming 11GB
RAM: Kingston Hyperx 3000mhz 16GBx2
PSU: Corsair SF600
Storage: 1Xm.2 , 2X2.5 SSD , 1X2.5 HD , 1X3.5 HD

im not sure what fans im gonna use yet, as i dont know how much space ill have, but i own 2 90mm Noctua fans and am ready to buy whatever else i need.

im a touring VJ so this is my touring rig (hence the SFF) but also my studio rig , so heavy loads are a daily thing.

Thanks community!

Almost all coolers can take the 9900K @ Stock.. The problem is that most motherboard manufactores does not deliver the stock settings for the 9900K. Most is around 170W TDP and I think the D9L is gonna struggle with that. Its should have no problem delivering the stock 95W TDP, but it does not make much sense to buy the 9900K and run it at 95W TDP. So if you want to go the easy route atleast get the U9 cooler. Otherwise you want to go to something like the Noctua C14 (discontinued) or C14S (requires you to check all parts before and making sure it will all fit.. Or maybe an 240mm AIO.
Just beaware that that will not make it possible to have 3.5" drives in your machine. Well. Yes, but then you want to drop the 1080ti. Do you really need this much GPU power for VJ'ing? Its only really Resolve that can use these higher end GPU for something. Premiere Pro does not get any benefit above 1060/1070. (What NLE do you use)?

Also.. I would get 2x M2 as you have the slots and small form factor builds is all about smallness. The Samsung 970 EVO is up to 2TB. I would get 2 of them if you really need storage space (hence the platter drives you have in your list) and 2x Samsung 860 EVO 4TB units. Those can fit in the front of the case. That way you have 12TB of storage all in all and still room for a big C14S cooler or 240mm AIO.

As for fans. I would go for Noctua A12X25 PWM. They are the best on the market in terms of performance pr. noise.

I can recommend the Wallye bag that they also sell. Its made for the NCase.. But maybe you already have a bag it will fit in.

As for the motherboard.. Some (a lot) will say you should go for the Asrock Phantom gaming instead.. But really. There is not really any difference in them. In the end its the CPU you will struggle to cool - not the VRM performance. So stick with the ASUS board. Its great (no matter what else people say).. They only real reason to choose the Asrock board is thunderbolt. So if you use that or need that. Then that makes it an easy choice.
 
Oh, I didn't realise that SFFLAB don't sell those accessories for the M1. That's a bit disappointing, because when it was being sold direct there were loads of accessories, such as replacement panel kits - but now I see that SFFLAB aren't planning to restock the panel kits, which sucks - and that there might be a V6 that has panels that are incompatible with previous versions, so anyone with a current M1 is shit out of luck if they want or need replacement panels. Boo.
Yeah I'm not sure what to do with my friends pc now other than getting him a new case. And he cannot afford the ncase. The bracket he could have afforded but I guess I checked too late.
 
Almost all coolers can take the 9900K @ Stock.. The problem is that most motherboard manufactores does not deliver the stock settings for the 9900K. Most is around 170W TDP and I think the D9L is gonna struggle with that. Its should have no problem delivering the stock 95W TDP, but it does not make much sense to buy the 9900K and run it at 95W TDP. So if you want to go the easy route atleast get the U9 cooler. Otherwise you want to go to something like the Noctua C14 (discontinued) or C14S (requires you to check all parts before and making sure it will all fit.. Or maybe an 240mm AIO.
Just beaware that that will not make it possible to have 3.5" drives in your machine. Well. Yes, but then you want to drop the 1080ti. Do you really need this much GPU power for VJ'ing? Its only really Resolve that can use these higher end GPU for something. Premiere Pro does not get any benefit above 1060/1070. (What NLE do you use)?

Also.. I would get 2x M2 as you have the slots and small form factor builds is all about smallness. The Samsung 970 EVO is up to 2TB. I would get 2 of them if you really need storage space (hence the platter drives you have in your list) and 2x Samsung 860 EVO 4TB units. Those can fit in the front of the case. That way you have 12TB of storage all in all and still room for a big C14S cooler or 240mm AIO.

As for fans. I would go for Noctua A12X25 PWM. They are the best on the market in terms of performance pr. noise.

I can recommend the Wallye bag that they also sell. Its made for the NCase.. But maybe you already have a bag it will fit in.

As for the motherboard.. Some (a lot) will say you should go for the Asrock Phantom gaming instead.. But really. There is not really any difference in them. In the end its the CPU you will struggle to cool - not the VRM performance. So stick with the ASUS board. Its great (no matter what else people say).. They only real reason to choose the Asrock board is thunderbolt. So if you use that or need that. Then that makes it an easy choice.


hey thanks for the quick and detailed response!!

So firstly yes i need a strong GPU, i do real-time 3D rendering and need all the gpu power i can get. (touch designer and notchvfx) and when in the studio i use blender, C4D and many other softwares that utilize GPU.

I ordered the wallye bag :) on its way.

-Storage wise:
i was considering another m.2 and will upgrade to that at some point, its just expensive att he moment at those capacities and i just bought a 2TB 2.5 SSD. but I will switch out my 3.5 at some point (its a 4TB HDD). - but i will need to change this at some point.

-As for mobo i only buy ASUS...have since my first build in 2005.

-As for cooling:
im a little confused as to how the u9 would be better if its just passive? i was considering at first to just get a single fan AIO, but decided not to as i figured it wouldn't make much of a diffrence to a good noctua fan and would take up much more room and be a pain to upgrade and open up the case.
im also confused as to what you mean by checking the parts of the C14S, does it fit or not? are there different versions?
and couldn't i still fit the 3.5 under the gpu? and put two SSDs in the front and one on the side or also under the gpu?

-As for fans is this what your referring to:

https://ksp.co.il/index.php?uin=55308&select=

or this:

https://ksp.co.il/index.php?uin=42616&select=


thanks again!
 
The C14S cooler might not work with the Asus motherboard due to the gigantic I/O cover. That's another reason why the Phantom is recommended.
 
im a little confused as to how the u9 would be better if its just passive?
The U9S isn't passive: it ships with one 92x25mm fan and you can add a second such fan on the heatsink (although you might have better results attaching that second fan to case directly).
 
The U9S isn't passive: it ships with one 92x25mm fan and you can add a second such fan on the heatsink (although you might have better results attaching that second fan to case directly).
yeah my bad, looke dlike i from noctuas website...

and the u9s is 'better' then the NH-D9L ?
 
There's not much in it at all between the U9S and D9L, maybe a couple of degrees. I have the U9S and I'm very happy with it, but they are both good coolers.
 
hey thanks for the quick and detailed response!!

So firstly yes i need a strong GPU, i do real-time 3D rendering and need all the gpu power i can get. (touch designer and notchvfx) and when in the studio i use blender, C4D and many other softwares that utilize GPU.

I ordered the wallye bag :) on its way.

-Storage wise:
i was considering another m.2 and will upgrade to that at some point, its just expensive att he moment at those capacities and i just bought a 2TB 2.5 SSD. but I will switch out my 3.5 at some point (its a 4TB HDD). - but i will need to change this at some point.

-As for mobo i only buy ASUS...have since my first build in 2005.

-As for cooling:
im a little confused as to how the u9 would be better if its just passive? i was considering at first to just get a single fan AIO, but decided not to as i figured it wouldn't make much of a diffrence to a good noctua fan and would take up much more room and be a pain to upgrade and open up the case.
im also confused as to what you mean by checking the parts of the C14S, does it fit or not? are there different versions?
and couldn't i still fit the 3.5 under the gpu? and put two SSDs in the front and one on the side or also under the gpu?

-As for fans is this what your referring to:

https://ksp.co.il/index.php?uin=55308&select=

or this:

https://ksp.co.il/index.php?uin=42616&select=


thanks again!

Just make sure that those programs/apps actually can utilise the extra GPU power, or you are wasting money/performance/noise/room for something else. Many people think that more expensive hardware yields better results. Thats not always the case.

The U9S is not passive. You get a A9 fan with it.. Buy a second to make it even better.

The C14S is big and requires you to think about what components to choose. Some will fit. Some wont. I think the Asus motherboard is okay. The C14 does NOT fit that motherboard, but I think the C14S is a little higher up and also the heatpipes are at a straiter angle. But there is no garantee as we have not seen anybody with that combination before.

Yes. The A12X25PWM.. Not the A12X15.. that is slimmer and not as good.
 
Just make sure that those programs/apps actually can utilise the extra GPU power, or you are wasting money/performance/noise/room for something else. Many people think that more expensive hardware yields better results. Thats not always the case.

The U9S is not passive. You get a A9 fan with it.. Buy a second to make it even better.

The C14S is big and requires you to think about what components to choose. Some will fit. Some wont. I think the Asus motherboard is okay. The C14 does NOT fit that motherboard, but I think the C14S is a little higher up and also the heatpipes are at a straiter angle. But there is no garantee as we have not seen anybody with that combination before.

Yes. The A12X25PWM.. Not the A12X15.. that is slimmer and not as good.

Bro, the softwares i use utilize evrey bit of gpu power (realtime 3D) and memory. i dont need to check this, i know this for fact, its my profession.

Noctua NF-A12x25 FLX - is it the same as what you recommending? (https://ksp.co.il/index.php?uin=55308&select=)

so seems like the u9s is the way to go, would you say a single fan aio would yield better results and would be a safer bet for the i9?
 
Bro, the softwares i use utilize evrey bit of gpu power (realtime 3D) and memory. i dont need to check this, i know this for fact, its my profession.

Noctua NF-A12x25 FLX - is it the same as what you recommending? (https://ksp.co.il/index.php?uin=55308&select=)

so seems like the u9s is the way to go, would you say a single fan aio would yield better results and would be a safer bet for the i9?

That's not the fan. FLX is a 3 pin. You want the PWM version.

Edit: I don't know about the single fan AIO. I've never tested one. I know that 2x120 AIO mops the floor with the C14S and U9S.

So the ideal U9S setup would be:
1x92mm fan on the rear chassis as intake.
1x92mm fan on the right side of the U9S as pull
1x120mm fan on the right side bracket as exhaust
Accelero GPU cooler
2x120mm fans under the Accelero as exhaust

If you don't feel like modding the GPU then:
1x92mm fan on the rear chassis as intake.
1x92mm fan on the right side of the U9S as pull
1x120mm fan on the right side bracket as exhaust
2x120mm fans under the GPU as intake
 
That's not the fan. FLX is a 3 pin. You want the PWM version.

Edit: I don't know about the single fan AIO. I've never tested one. I know that 2x120 AIO mops the floor with the C14S and U9S.

So the ideal U9S setup would be:
1x92mm fan on the rear chassis as intake.
1x92mm fan on the right side of the U9S as pull
1x120mm fan on the right side bracket as exhaust
Accelero GPU cooler
2x120mm fans under the Accelero as exhaust

If you don't feel like modding the GPU then:
1x92mm fan on the rear chassis as intake.
1x92mm fan on the right side of the U9S as pull
1x120mm fan on the right side bracket as exhaust
2x120mm fans under the GPU as intake


i dont think ill be modding the gpu...but thanks so much for the detailed response.
quick questions:

1x92mm fan on the right side of the U9S as pull - do you mean in addition to the stock fan or just one fan on the u9s?

1x120mm fan on the right side bracket as exhaust - what part of the brackt should it be on? like is it taking the hot air from the cpu cooler out?

2x120mm fans under the GPU as intake - is this needed if my gpu fans are pulling in air anyway?

thanks again, as i am super lost when it comes to whats logical for airflow in such a small enviorment.
 
i dont think ill be modding the gpu...but thanks so much for the detailed response.
quick questions:

1x92mm fan on the right side of the U9S as pull - do you mean in addition to the stock fan or just one fan on the u9s?

1x120mm fan on the right side bracket as exhaust - what part of the brackt should it be on? like is it taking the hot air from the cpu cooler out?

2x120mm fans under the GPU as intake - is this needed if my gpu fans are pulling in air anyway?

thanks again, as i am super lost when it comes to whats logical for airflow in such a small enviorment.

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Disregard the front mounted PSU and Accelero in the picture. The example here is the U9S + Fans. Two total blowing towards the front of the case.

The 120mm mounts on the right side of the included fan bracket (it can't fit on the left side, that's where the U9S is) internal as push. Think of this as a normal cases 120 exhaust fan. This only works if you are using the stock vented panel.

The bottom 2x120 fans are recommended but not required with a stock GPU cooler.
 
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... Two total blowing towards the front of the case.

The 120mm mounts on the right side of the included fan bracket (it can't fit on the left side, that's where the U9S is) internal as push. Think of this as a normal cases 120 exhaust fan. This only works if you are using the stock vented panel...

wouldnt that be pull?.. Its pulling the air out of the case.. I.E. is pulling on the hot air. As the hot air is behind it. Sorry for hair-splitting here :bag:
 
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Disregard the front mounted PSU and Accelero in the picture. The example here is the U9S + Fans. Two total blowing towards the front of the case.

The 120mm mounts on the right side of the included fan bracket (it can't fit on the left side, that's where the U9S is) internal as push. Think of this as a normal cases 120 exhaust fan. This only works if you are using the stock vented panel.

The bottom 2x120 fans are recommended but not required with a stock GPU cooler.

awesome, the pic cleared up a lot - THANKS.

what 92mm fan do you recommend for the rear chasis fan?

I finally found the A12X25PWM - they don't sell them in Israel anywhere (only the 3pin verion)..but amazon ships them here, so no worries.
 
wouldnt that be pull?.. Its pulling the air out of the case.. I.E. is pulling on the hot air. As the hot air is behind it. Sorry for hair-splitting here :bag:
("->" = air flow direction)
Fan -> bracket/radiator fins = push
bracket/radiator fins -> Fan = pull
Fan -> case -> Fan -> interior = intake
Fan <- case <- Fan <- interior = exhaust (push/pull because fan is on both inside and outside of case/bracket)
 
wouldnt that be pull?.. Its pulling the air out of the case.. I.E. is pulling on the hot air. As the hot air is behind it. Sorry for hair-splitting here :bag:

I generally tend to call the rear interior pull and the right fan as pull too. I like to call the 120 push because I do not pull out.


xd

But srsly tho it's push.
 
awesome, the pic cleared up a lot - THANKS.

what 92mm fan do you recommend for the rear chasis fan?

I finally found the A12X25PWM - they don't sell them in Israel anywhere (only the 3pin verion)..but amazon ships them here, so no worries.

I'd go with Noctua NF-A9 PWM's or Noctua NF-B9 redux PWM's.
 
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