SMOKING HOT: RTX 2080 Ti EVGA BLACK EDITION $999

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Theres something like 50+ available at my local microcenter I dont think they're selling well. Actually the Black edition is showing 1019.99 not even on sale. I imagine Microcenter will drop it to 899 any day now if sales are really that bad.
You talking 2080s or 2080 Tis?

Fry's is showing prices as low as 740 after rebates on the various 2080s. The 2080 is in kind of a weird spot, though. If you're the type to spend $800 to $1000 on a graphics card, you probably are also the type who wants or needs the absolute fastest GPU you can possibly get your hands on at any price, and thus really want a 2080 Ti. If you're not, and you just want reasonable performance at 1080 or 1440P, there are other options between 10 series cards, the 2070 (which is way more reasonably priced), AMD cards, and so forth.
 
You talking 2080s or 2080 Tis?

Fry's is showing prices as low as 740 after rebates on the various 2080s. The 2080 is in kind of a weird spot, though. If you're the type to spend $800 to $1000 on a graphics card, you probably are also the type who wants or needs the absolute fastest GPU you can possibly get your hands on at any price, and thus really want a 2080 Ti. If you're not, and you just want reasonable performance at 1080 or 1440P, there are other options between 10 series cards, the 2070 (which is way more reasonably priced), AMD cards, and so forth.

RTX2080ti black https://www.microcenter.com/product...x-2080-ti-dual-fan-11gb-gddr6-pcie-video-card currently $1019

The RTX2080 series cards have been as low as $630 just gotta keep an eye out.

Naw, my next upgrade will be whatever the 4k+ HOR+ 100hz+ Ultrawide is. I don't expect to see one until 3rd quarter if we're lucky, its been pushed out 2 years now. That'll require an RTX2080ti minimum. I'll pick up an RTX2080ti when its cheap or just wait for NAVI.
 
I bought this for regular price of $999 a month ago, have it OCd to 1950 and use the hybrid water cooler (1384b1) for solid, silent gameplay with max temps of 60c. no complaints!
 
Ummm.... What are you smoking OP? That's the normal MSRP for the EVGA 2080Ti Black edition. Was posted/linked ages ago:
https://hardforum.com/threads/2080ti-price-returning-to-earth-a-bit.1970492/

I don't see the "smoking hot" component at all. It's been out for some time now, just not always in stock. It's also not a card you would want if you plan to overclock.

I assumed it was sarcasm and this was just a notification of the card being in stock. I hate posts in Hot Deals of anything at MSRP no matter how hard to get it is too though and think this stuff should just be posted in the card's respective subforum or thread(s) in said subforum. MSRP is never a deal even if the market implies otherwise IMO.
 
Thank you Mister Spelling and Grammar Policia ... how to sight of this must completly crush and utterly destroy you on the inside. If I've some how helped you to alleviate the internal suffering that must rage inside of you then I am happy to do so.
I think you may need to take a chill pill man. It wasn't fixing any grammar he was being facetious. $1000+ for a video card is ridiculous....but you can pay what you want.
 
Does anyone pay MSRP for a car or anything else? The S is the key letter here. It's same S as in bullshit.
 
I think you may need to take a chill pill man. It wasn't fixing any grammar he was being facetious. $1000+ for a video card is ridiculous....but you can pay what you want.
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Hmm.

1.) How do the clock speeds and ASIC qualities of these compare to Founders Editions?

2.) Is there a full cover water block for this one?

I ma interested, but in the back of my mind I'm still thinking about the R%TX space invaders.

I'm also thinking if maybe I've let it go too long and if I should just wait until the next gen instead at this point, because usually the only way to make top end video cards worth it is if you buy them right at launch, that way you spread the cost over a longer time.
 
Well, that's what happens when we are lured here under false pretenses by a known 2080Ti apologist who just posted in this thread that everyone should save their money and buy this or the next variation of it at $1000+.

Fuck that.

But but, the infamous Tom's Hardware "Just Buy It!" article told me everything that I needed to know! /s

I know that currently there is no better card for 4K but suffice it to say I'm with several others in this thread. For some of us, it's not about having the money or not. It's about value and principle. Suffice it to say I'm glad I skipped this generation. Oh how I wish AMD had something competitive...nV and its partners were pretty full of themselves this go-round and when we heed the advice to "just buy it" we do nothing but convince the powers that be that we'll support ever-increasing launch prices. And that's not even touching on the current state of ray tracing or the hardware failures. Yes, it's the best card for brute 4K power but the next iteration will likely make much more sense for 1080Ti owners like myself, assuming nV can get their heads out of their arses.
 
Hmm.

1.) How do the clock speeds and ASIC qualities of these compare to Founders Editions?

2.) Is there a full cover water block for this one?

I ma interested, but in the back of my mind I'm still thinking about the R%TX space invaders.

I'm also thinking if maybe I've let it go too long and if I should just wait until the next gen instead at this point, because usually the only way to make top end video cards worth it is if you buy them right at launch, that way you spread the cost over a longer time.

1. it's a lower quality chip with a lower power limit for overclocking. also it's at reference clocks vs the FE clocks(really doesn't matter since it takes zero effort to change it to the FE clocks).

2. it's the same reference PCB that's used on the FE, so yes.
 
1. it's a lower quality chip with a lower power limit for overclocking. also it's at reference clocks vs the FE clocks(really doesn't matter since it takes zero effort to change it to the FE clocks).

2. it's the same reference PCB that's used on the FE, so yes.

It will boost much higher clock at a stable rate for FE. Lower quality chip probably gonna give you an instant boost of clock but fall down soon after when voltage kick down and heat goes up.
 
Man, look ... if you guys love gaming, passionate about it ... start saving up your money, $40 and $50 here and there .. get your $1000 ready for the next 3080 Ti or whatever it's gonna be called.

I know this seems like a lot of money but $1,000 is really honestly not a lot of money unless you completely and totally fuk off your money on stupid shit constantly or have 5 kids ...

Just a personal FYI


I have 4 kids I can still afford to spend $1000 on a video card but it is a lot of money. Not only is a lot of money $1000 for a video card is insane. Your video card should be a portion of the cost of building a new system not the same cost of building a high end system. Nvidia tried to take advantage of mining boom by price gauging its customers with shit hardware for outrageous prices. In the end once the mining died away it came back to bite them with sales. 2080TI should not cost more then $600 tops which was supposed to be the msrp for the 1080TI before the mining boom. I was able to be lucky enough to get a 1080TI for $650 before the mining boom happened.
 
Hmm...

So the question is, is the 2080ti still worth it...

Usually the only good time to buy a top end GPU is right at launch, so you get as much time with the thing for your money as possible, and it's been 4.5 months since launch.

I've procrastinated because RTX Space Invaders, but I'm starting to wish I had a little more power for 4k gaming...

So, 1080ti launched on 03/05/2017

2080ti launched on 09/27/2018.

That's 571 days between launches.

Assuming the same amount of time until the next launch (which isn't a given at all) we would see a potential 3080ti on 04/20/2020, about 14 months away.

The question is if I am willing to spend this much on a GPU and only have it for 14 months until the next one comes out...

At the same time 14 months is a long time to wait disappointed in performance.
 
I guess it depends on the resolution you're running? I've looked at some benchmarks and most games would only increase about 20-30% in FPS @ 3440x1440p over a 1080ti. I paid about $570 for my 1080 ti and I'm not going to pay double the price for about a 30% maximum increase in performance.

Then again, going from 40fps to 50-55 fps may be a little smoother and more enjoyable gaming experience but the question is if that's worth a grand to you.
 
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I guess it depends on the resolution you're running? I've looked at some benchmarks and most games would only increase about 20-30% in FPS @ 3440x1440p over a 1080ti. I paid about $570 for my 1080 ti and I'm not going to pay double the price for about a 30% maximum increase in performance.

Then again, going from 40fps to 50-55 fps may be a little smoother and more enjoyable gaming experience but the question is if that's worth a grand to you.


That is a good point. While a 30% performance increase is pretty good for a generation to generation improvement these days (developments in both GPU's and CPU's have slowed considerably over time), it's not going to be a transformative performance increase.

Maybe waiting for the next Ti is a better choice after all.

I may just save up, upgrade to 3rd gen Ryzen or Threadripper when it is launched over the summer, and then grab a 3080ti (or whatever the call it) next time around. This has the added bonus of seeing what AMD brings to the table on the GPU side (though it will probably be a disappointment as usual for the last ~5-6 years.
 
That is a good point. While a 30% performance increase is pretty good for a generation to generation improvement these days (developments in both GPU's and CPU's have slowed considerably over time), it's not going to be a transformative performance increase.

Maybe waiting for the next Ti is a better choice after all.

I may just save up, upgrade to 3rd gen Ryzen or Threadripper when it is launched over the summer, and then grab a 3080ti (or whatever the call it) next time around. This has the added bonus of seeing what AMD brings to the table on the GPU side (though it will probably be a disappointment as usual for the last ~5-6 years.

If you had FreeSync, (which I do not believe Samsung gave to 4K sets as old as yours sadly) then I would say wait now that you can use adaptive sync with Nvidia cards...As it stands, I believe Ryzen 3 8C+ under water are going to be in your neighborhood of 4.6+Ghz, with the nice IPC gains to go along with it...X79 is super long in the tooth at this point, and I know you have some plastic crack on that mobo of yours...

I think its time to start buying ram on sale (if you want 64GB of again) and then do a platform upgrade..Better performance means better frame times, more cores means a smoother overall experience for a serious multitask-er like you profess to be (not an insult), and lower power consumption (or the same with a balls to the wall OC), along with native NVME drive support and modern USB and possibly PCI-E 4.0 says the platform is your path...

You have the 2/3rd Fastest GPU on the market at this point, so drop some IQ settings, or drop 5K on a G-sync enabled BFGD :p:p:p:p...
 
If you had FreeSync, (which I do not believe Samsung gave to 4K sets as old as yours sadly) then I would say wait now that you can use adaptive sync with Nvidia cards...As it stands, I believe Ryzen 3 8C+ under water are going to be in your neighborhood of 4.6+Ghz, with the nice IPC gains to go along with it...X79 is super long in the tooth at this point, and I know you have some plastic crack on that mobo of yours...

I think its time to start buying ram on sale (if you want 64GB of again) and then do a platform upgrade..Better performance means better frame times, more cores means a smoother overall experience for a serious multitask-er like you profess to be (not an insult), and lower power consumption (or the same with a balls to the wall OC), along with native NVME drive support and modern USB and possibly PCI-E 4.0 says the platform is your path...

You have the 2/3rd Fastest GPU on the market at this point, so drop some IQ settings, or drop 5K on a G-sync enabled BFGD :p:p:p:p...


Funny thing is I actually don't do heavy multitasking on my desktop much anymore.

I do typical lightweight desktop work (web/email/office), and the occasional game. Sometimes I fire up a VM, but not all that often.

I used to do more of that stuff on my desktop, until I set up a pretty capable server in my basement, and I just run all unattended multitasking tasks on it instead, keeping the completely off of my local machine.

I currently have an aging 6C/12T CPU. It has treated me well. I honestly don't think I need (or would even benefit at all from) more than 6C/12T, but just to be on the safe side I am targeting 8C/16T in my next upgrade. If I had to pick, I'd prefer even 5% higher clocks over 50% more cores.

The reason I mention Threadripper is because I absolutely love how many PCIe lanes it has. I didn't realize I was that unusual, but in recent conversations I have been exposed as an expansion lover. I like having tons of PCIe cars and accessories in my case, and for that purpose neither Intel's nor AMD's consumer chips have enough lanes.

I'm going to see how they handle the PCIe lanes and how they split them up with the next gen 570 chipset from AMD. PCIe 4 certainly gives them more options to use more bandwidth for expansion slots, but if I can't make it work, I feel like I will be forced to go with a Threadripper system. I just hope they make one with higher clocks and fewer cores. I ahve absolutely no need at all for a bajillion cores.
 
Funny thing is I actually don't do heavy multitasking on my desktop much anymore.

I do typical lightweight desktop work (web/email/office), and the occasional game. Sometimes I fire up a VM, but not all that often.

I used to do more of that stuff on my desktop, until I set up a pretty capable server in my basement, and I just run all unattended multitasking tasks on it instead, keeping the completely off of my local machine.

I currently have an aging 6C/12T CPU. It has treated me well. I honestly don't think I need (or would even benefit at all from) more than 6C/12T, but just to be on the safe side I am targeting 8C/16T in my next upgrade. If I had to pick, I'd prefer even 5% higher clocks over 50% more cores.

The reason I mention Threadripper is because I absolutely love how many PCIe lanes it has. I didn't realize I was that unusual, but in recent conversations I have been exposed as an expansion lover. I like having tons of PCIe cars and accessories in my case, and for that purpose neither Intel's nor AMD's consumer chips have enough lanes.

I'm going to see how they handle the PCIe lanes and how they split them up with the next gen 570 chipset from AMD. PCIe 4 certainly gives them more options to use more bandwidth for expansion slots, but if I can't make it work, I feel like I will be forced to go with a Threadripper system. I just hope they make one with higher clocks and fewer cores. I ahve absolutely no need at all for a bajillion cores.


Forgot about the server you nearly lost in the flood. I would go ahead and get at least the 8C, since the cost difference should be marginal, and if you keep it anywhere near as long as you have that x79 you should get plenty of value from it.

You are a unicorn when it comes to a desktop user that does little but "needs" all those PCI-E lanes. With the death of mGPU in all but 1-3 titles a year (if we are lucky and unless somethign changes with the new console arch helping it come back), then 8~16X for your primary GPU is plenty, which leaves a fair amount. You use hi end audio, so 1 PCI-e lane for the card, so what is left besides the 10G network card you use? I think that Intel 750 you have is an older PCI-E format SSD as well, but it uses what, x4 lanes? Modern boards have dual M.2 slots, and they should offer dual x4 or even a x4/x2 setup on cheaper boards for large m.2 drives..
 
Will everybody please stop fucking yelling! I lost count again dammit, sheesh! 25-26-27-28 dollars...almost there.....
 
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Forgot about the server you nearly lost in the flood. I would go ahead and get at least the 8C, since the cost difference should be marginal, and if you keep it anywhere near as long as you have that x79 you should get plenty of value from it.

You are a unicorn when it comes to a desktop user that does little but "needs" all those PCI-E lanes. With the death of mGPU in all but 1-3 titles a year (if we are lucky and unless somethign changes with the new console arch helping it come back), then 8~16X for your primary GPU is plenty, which leaves a fair amount. You use hi end audio, so 1 PCI-e lane for the card, so what is left besides the 10G network card you use? I think that Intel 750 you have is an older PCI-E format SSD as well, but it uses what, x4 lanes? Modern boards have dual M.2 slots, and they should offer dual x4 or even a x4/x2 setup on cheaper boards for large m.2 drives..


I don't need all 64. I could probably get away with ~35.

I think part of it is that unlike most these days, I consider a PC a rotating build. I don't build one PC from scratch, keep it a few years and then build a new one from scratch. I have a dynamic rotating build philosophy. IN a way, my current build is the spiritual successor of my first PC, a 286 from ~1990, upgraded a part or two at a time over close to 30 years.

This means I have a lot of parts of mixed vintages going in and out of it at any time. Rather than a from scratch build with one large NVME SSD, I currently have two, one I got years ago when 400GB was large, and a 1TB one I've added after the fact. I also have a sound card. I don't really NEED it, but I keep it around for the extra high quality inputs, that I can't get from my DAC. Stuff like that. I want to have enough flexibility that I can add or remove whatever I want to at any given time and never have to worry about not having enough expansion.

In 2010, I was a semi-early adopter of small form factor builds. Back before ITX motherboards and cases were common, I got one of those Shuttle SFF cases with the built in motherboard for my i7-920. I liked it, for a few months, but it quickly became evident I wanted to use more and more stuff, and I didn't have the expansion capabilities I wanted. I felt stuck. I don't ever want to feel stuck again. I want to constantly have ample PCIe slots free so that whatever comes around the bend I can have enough space to shove it in there without taking any lanes away from my GPU :p

Anyway, I've probably taken this thread sufficiently off track now. I'll stop.
 
oh man, only true two slot 2080Ti I have seen that would fit in my FD Node 304 to replace my 970. too bad on the price...still too steep. $699 i may eventually do it.
 
I know this seems like a lot of money but $1,000 is really honestly not a lot of money unless you completely and totally fuk off your money on stupid shit constantly or have 5 kids ...

You live in your parents basement don't you. :p
For real though, I could buy a 1000 of these, still have money in the bank, and I WOULD NEVER buy at this value. It's ridiculous, even at MSRP.
 
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Man, look ... if you guys love gaming, passionate about it ... start saving up your money, $40 and $50 here and there .. get your $1000 ready for the next 3080 Ti or whatever it's gonna be called.

I know this seems like a lot of money but $1,000 is really honestly not a lot of money unless you completely and totally fuk off your money on stupid shit constantly or have 5 kids ...

Just a personal FYI
I would consider a $1000 GPU a fuck off money on stupid shit.
 
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These things here are around $1600 cdn. I spent about that much when I first put my rig together.
After taxes here I'd be looking at closer to $2000. Just for a gpu... No thanks..
 
what was the percentage of 2080ti owners? .015%? maybe the lack of adoption will somehow lower the MSRP later, who knows. but yes, it's a rip off for a non titan at msrp, especially when some of that msrp obviously goes towards the ray tracing tech that no one asked for and doesn't currently work as intended so to speak.
 
Am I missing something here? I don't see any deals anywhere. Says auto notify for me.
 
It's sad to see the extent to which price gouging in video cards has been accepted when people are excited to see a card whose msrp is $300-$350 overpriced "merely" selling for the inflated msrp rather than with a further $200-$300 surcharge on top of that.
 
It's sad to see the extent to which price gouging in video cards has been accepted when people are excited to see a card whose msrp is $300-$350 overpriced "merely" selling for the inflated msrp rather than with a further $200-$300 surcharge on top of that.

Add to that no increase in memory over previous gen unless you throw in another grand.
 
Add to that no increase in memory over previous gen unless you throw in another grand.


Moot point for games. I play with 4k ultra settings on a 12GB Pascal Titan X.

I've never seen any title use more than 6GB.

There are other applications that can use more though, such as video editing/rendering (as demonstrated by a recent news post about the Vega VII)
 
It's sad to see the extent to which price gouging in video cards has been accepted when people are excited to see a card whose msrp is $300-$350 overpriced "merely" selling for the inflated msrp rather than with a further $200-$300 surcharge on top of that.


I struggle with calling it price gouging. I certainly think pricing this generation is a bit high, but at the same time the Titan has been elevated to a professional card which makes the xx80ti models the new Titan and Titan's were always expensive.

With these things the winner has always gotten the spoils. The truth is Nvidia has 0 competition at the high end. AMD has only just now caught up with the previous gen 1080ti with the Vega VII. When you have the best product on the market, you can demand a premium for it.

AMD did the same thing when their Athlon 64 x2 chips were the fastest consumer CPU's on the planet. There was also a time when Nvidfia was having issues with the lackluster performance of their GeForce FX line, and ATi GPU's were suddenly a lot more expensive.

Gouging implies Nvidia is doing something wrong to hurt consumers who are somehow owed fast GPU's at a certain price point. That just isn't the case. There are a lot of things Nvidia can be criticized for (like their historical lock-outs/Lock-in practices on G-Sync, trying to harm the competition with GameWorks/HairWorks and their authoritarian style NDA's) but here they just so happen to have the fastest product in the market place and they are charging a premium for it. That's always how it works in every industry. If your product is better than everyone else's, you bet you'd be charging more than everyone else. (And no, price doesn't scale linearly with performance, nor should it, it never has)

Only two things will chance this. Either AMD (or Intel maybe?) will come out with something that competes in the high end, and prices will drop again, or Nvidia will sell fewer of their high end GPU's than they had hoped due to their expense, in which case they may tweak the price downward a bit. The former will probably be a while, and the latter seems unlikely considering they are constantly selling out of 2080ti's
 
saw this too but I have heard not too great things about the fans on these.

EVGA fans are a bit noisy on spin-up, I'd compare it to the noise that a mechanical hard drive makes when reading/writing. The sound only occurs during that split second during spin-up. Absolute non-issue. When idling the fan will never be spinning, and when gaming they will always be spinning, so you will very rarely hear it.
 
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