Frraksurred
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I still buy everything at Gamestop, dont know what you all are talkin' bout.
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I've heard concerns that Epic is being partly owned by a Chinese company.
It doesn't really bother me.
What bothers me and the reasons why I'm going to change are:
1) Valve takes 30% cut, Epic takes 12%. I would rather support developers than Valve/Steam because:
2) I'm disgusted by Valve. Not that they only have gotten very lazy as a company, they also release games that clearly have no place in the gaming community. Atlas is a paid card game in the sea of free card games that are much better. Atlas should have been a free game for Steam users.
I have 611 games on Steam and I'm pretty sure that number won't increase.
Too quickly? It was 6 years before they started doing seasonal sales. It was nearly 11 years before the number of games sold on Steam broke 4 digits. There was a 4 year period when the number of games on the Steam store didn't grow at all, stuck around 300.The problem for sure is that Steam grew too large and too quickly. They've created a monster that they can't control. Of course there are a ton of issues with the platform. I'm not ignorant to that fact. But the thing is that it's the most popular platform and most people I know are still on it. Valve has already been tweaking the split for games that sell large quantities.
Let's not kid ourselves though Greenlight was not perfect. It turned into brigades of people voting on games because they'd get a free copy in the process. It eventually became a sea of garbage and you'd have to wade through it to find anything good.
And what problems do you believe Steam has?All steam has to do is give the same or undercut epic by a litle bit and steam would win. I don't mind steam. Never had a problem with it. I do hate having like 6 different GD platforms for stuff and/or the I have the game on steam but it launches someone else's launcher and then that thing launches the g ame.
I seriously don't care if Valve makes a new game or not. I suspect they would ABSOLUTELY fucking suck at making games now. they don't need to make games and honestly I thought HL2 sucked balls. It was a huge let down and I don't get why it is considered so amazing. Last thing I liked from them was L4D2.
Just be the all in one platform. Been a steam person since beta for it when it absolutely sucked.
Like any of the big winners, they get all the hate but eventually even Epic will end up with the same problems as steam if they get big enough.
Too quickly? It was 6 years before they started doing seasonal sales. It was nearly 11 years before the number of games sold on Steam broke 4 digits. There was a 4 year period when the number of games on the Steam store didn't grow at all, stuck around 300.
And what problems do you believe Steam has?
Fixed it for you.
Metro Exodus is skipping Steam for the Epic Games Store, and passing the savings on to you
https://www.pcworld.com/article/3336857/gaming/metro-exodus-skip-steam-epic-games-store.html
That's the first Metro game I won't own.
Buy it now while you can on Steam or wait until next year when it comes back to Valve's platform. Goes off sale shortly on Steam.
If you were waiting to snag it for 50% off you're not really missing anything really. A year from now it will be reduced in price anyways when it comes back to Steam.
Honestly, I wasn't waiting for a sale. I've gotten pretty patient these days for games though, and usually wait a bit. Most of my game time is spent on indies or Nintendo stuff. The PC is still my primary platform, but I'm at a point where I don't have to jump on every little thing day one or pre-order. I hear you on just waiting for it for its timed release, but I really don't like the way this Epic store thing is headed. I also don't like that this dev/pub decided that this was ok to do in the first place. I kind of get larger companies that own several studios opening up their own launchers. I HATE it, but I do get why they do it. That's fine. But trying to force people's hands with big exclusives like this? I'm just not ok, and that's the line that I will draw where my money is concerned. I just won't be buying Metro now. I usually scoff at the vote with wallet thing, but even I have my limits. This was one of them. I don't begrudge anyone else jumping on Epic's new exclusive. By all means, buy the game if you don't mind this. I know many people don't mind having 50 launchers, storefronts, etc. I just personally won't fragment what I've got in this way if I can help it. Bethesda's launcher is what's really pushing my buttons right now though. (because obviously I won't be skipping id, Arkane, and certain Beth games as they're basically what I live for on the PC)
If Epic chose to compete more like the way GOG does, I might be more apt to at least not vomit over it. This was pretty slimey IMO though.
It's also not that I'm the biggest Valve fan in the world. It's just that when I jumped on digital, they were it, and I've put too much into their ecosystem to branch out now. I've grown accustomed to having all my PC things in one place (or at least 98% of it). My friends are there, my games are there, they've treated me well, and really since they were first, they really defined what current PC gaming is in my mind. They aren't by any means my favorite company, but it's undeniable that they've done a lot to get things where they are now. The other funny thing, barring of course the argument over the developer/store cut on profits, I would bet that 90% of the indie industry on the PC wouldn't be here right now, or at least making any real money if it weren't for Valve in the first place. They gained a voice, representation, and a huge push due to Steam. It's funny that some of them were so easily lured away from something that defined their existence. Whatever. All of this is what it is. I'll just keep on truckin' the way I have been.
Doesn't Valve allow for 14 day refunds for pre-orders? Assuming you haven't activated it. Makes pre-ordering, waiting for reviews and then refunding (without playing) pretty simple if it ends up being a Just Cause 4. Wouldn't make it a habit, but would've been a good idea in this instance. You'd have it day one (or five) on Steam after checking reviews. If it was trash, no real loss to you.
Too quickly? It was 6 years before they started doing seasonal sales. It was nearly 11 years before the number of games sold on Steam broke 4 digits. There was a 4 year period when the number of games on the Steam store didn't grow at all, stuck around 300.
And what problems do you believe Steam has?
Presented at Melbourne Games Week, it was revealed that Steam now has over 90 million MAUs, compared to 67 million last year.
Valve has also seen its daily active users grow to 47 million, up from 33 million last year; it's peak concurrent users have yet to exceed the 18.5 million record set in January, during the height of PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds' popularity
Good point. I'll consider that actually. I've used the refund system maybe 2-3 times total, so it's not in the forefront of my mind. That might be just the thing here though. ***scratches chin***
I think its no longer sold on Steam as of now. You can probably look on Green Man Gaming or similar as they may still have Steam keys left, but obviously there is no refund option there once the keys go out. Personally that is what I would do.
I wasn't going to get Metro at full price (wait & see for me) and I have no interest in Epic's launcher personally. I'll still play it when I can and just grab it when it comes back to Steam eventually.
I think its no longer sold on Steam as of now. You can probably look on Green Man Gaming or similar as they may still have Steam keys left, but obviously there is no refund option there once the keys go out. Personally that is what I would do.
I wasn't going to get Metro at full price (wait & see for me) and I have no interest in Epic's launcher personally. I'll still play it when I can and just grab it when it comes back to Steam eventually.