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True HDMI 2.1 with every 2.1 feature. 48 gbps variable refresh rate, low latency gaming mode, etc. etc.
Time to get an AMD card with freesync and do power saving trick with a 2080ti
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BFGD DEAD
True HDMI 2.1 with every 2.1 feature. 48 gbps variable refresh rate, low latency gaming mode, etc. etc.
Time to get an AMD card with freesync and do power saving trick with a 2080ti
Can one of you pros explain why this is so amazing compared to the TVs currently out now ?
Dude no AMD card has HDMI 2.1....so it doesn't matter if the TV will have it, the GPU will need to have it also. But yes still EXTREMELY exciting news.
Navi almost certainly will have HDMI 2.1, the chipset has been out for the better part of a year.
2019 I might go all AMD with Zen 2 and dump the 2080 Ti. Tired of no gsync on big 4K displays. I'll get a 4K TV with VRR and game on AMD Navi. Screw Nvidia and their proprietary crap. Who wants to spend $5k on a display just for 4K gsync?
Navi is rumored to only be around the performance of an RTX 2070, not really enough for some 4k games. But can't we still do the trick of using a low end AMD gpu to use Freesync while keeping the 2080 Ti as the rendering gpu as long as the AMD card has HDMI 2.1? Surely even the low end Navi would have it.
Navi is rumored to only be around the performance of an RTX 2070, not really enough for some 4k games. But can't we still do the trick of using a low end AMD gpu to use Freesync while keeping the 2080 Ti as the rendering gpu as long as the AMD card has HDMI 2.1? Surely even the low end Navi would have it.
Because the chipset to do it ( just hdmi, none of the other functions) will probably be million dollar order minimum and for niche gaming screens it isn't feasible.HDMI 2.1 - worth waiting for
VRR something every vendor should support, because it will move a wealth of products not just TV's.
NOW why on earth shouldn't monitors also have HDMI 2.1 in 2019?
Waiting paid off..
Because the chipset to do it ( just hdmi, none of the other functions) will probably be million dollar order minimum and for niche gaming screens it isn't feasible.
HDMI VRR isn't Freesync. The whole point of HDMI VRR is to eliminate the need for a software layer to make VRR work. Meaning so long as a video card has an HDMI 2.1 output no matter who manufactured it you will get VRR when it is connected to a display with an HDMI 2.1 input.Navi is rumored to only be around the performance of an RTX 2070, not really enough for some 4k games. But can't we still do the trick of using a low end AMD gpu to use Freesync while keeping the 2080 Ti as the rendering gpu as long as the AMD card has HDMI 2.1? Surely even the low end Navi would have it.
I tend to agree. The Xbox One X is HDMI 2.1 in that it supports VRR and ALLM, but it does not support the full 48 Gbps bandwidth.I am not convinced this is the real deal 48 GBps chip-set. You can do all sorts of stupid stuff to 4K/120 Hz like reduce chroma to 4:2:0 8-bit, no HDR, do up-sampling/down-sampling, compression to fit it in 18 GBps HDMI 2.0 chips.
I smell something that stinks. I hope I am wrong.
I don't play many shooters. When mainly playing RTS or RPG games, .
True HDMI 2.1 with every 2.1 feature. 48 gbps variable refresh rate, low latency gaming mode, etc. etc.
I would temper our excitement until we get the actual details next week. It wouldn't surprise me to see limited implementation of HDMI 2.1 with the first round of products from this year's CES.
It doesn't help that the HDMI Org has allowed HDMI 2.1 features to be implemented piecemeal, with some able to be implemented on HDMI 2.0. We know that these 2019 models will come with VRR, ALLM, and eARC, but AFAIK all of those can be implemented on 18Gbps chipsets.
In otherwords, we want the "full fat" 48Gbps chipsets.
The gold standard we're aiming for (especially for PC use) continues to be 4K @ 120Hz @ 4:4:4 10-bit HDR. That kind of bandwidth clocks in at 45Gbps. Moreover, these 2019 models are meaningless if we don't also have graphics cards that also use HDMI 2.1 and push all these features too.
I would temper our excitement until we get the actual details next week. It wouldn't surprise me to see limited implementation of HDMI 2.1 with the first round of products from this year's CES.
It doesn't help that the HDMI Org has allowed HDMI 2.1 features to be implemented piecemeal, with some able to be implemented on HDMI 2.0. We know that these 2019 models will come with VRR, ALLM, and eARC, but AFAIK all of those can be implemented on 18Gbps chipsets.
In otherwords, we want the "full fat" 48Gbps chipsets.
The gold standard we're aiming for (especially for PC use) continues to be 4K @ 120Hz @ 4:4:4 10-bit HDR. That kind of bandwidth clocks in at 45Gbps. Moreover, these 2019 models are meaningless if we don't also have graphics cards that also use HDMI 2.1 and push all these features too.
They're specifically saying it's supports everything in the press release. Unlike other tvs and the Xbox's partial support.
But yes, now we need a graphics card that does too.
Seems like your math's off.
30bpp * 4k * 120Hz is 29.8gbps.
These chipsets are theoretically capable of ~4k@190(ish)hz@10bit or 5k(5120x2160) ultrawide@144(ish)[email protected] of those are ~48gbps.
Unless HDR is an additional and not incorporated within the 4k 10bpc i dont see where the extra overhead fits?
Unfortunately for us, LG probably doesnt care enough to support custom display modes.
mind as well just get a cell phone to play those games.
That was the point lol. 2k for a tiny low volume pos or a mass produced screen...economy of scale is the winner here. As vega said though, pray they're not being greedy merchants and doing Some 6 bit 120hz implementation lol.Yeah it's not like they sell $2,000 gaming monitors or anything.
https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Predato..._1?ie=UTF8&qid=1546506383&sr=8-1&keywords=x27
Oh.
I'm excited to see this tech finally hit the streets. In another couple years, it might actually be affordable
I'm still going to enjoy my C7 for another 5 years, while you early adopters have fun!
Dude no AMD card has HDMI 2.1....so it doesn't matter if the TV will have it
So that means 2500€ for 55" until the 2018 have been sold out, gonna be a long wait.I think they'll keep the price the same as last year's models despite the upgrades. I'm glad I waited and didn't buy a 2018 model on black Friday.
eARC is what I've been waiting for, time to upgrade my B6.
Yes but also like AMD has an anouncement in 5 days @ CES. The hope for a match made in heaven Q2 2019 still lives.Dude no AMD card has HDMI 2.1....so it doesn't matter if the TV will have it, the GPU will need to have it also. But yes still EXTREMELY exciting news.
Don't use an appropriate receiver?
Yes, HDR adds significantly more bandwidth to the requirement.