nEo717
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Only to the ones who don't do their research. The 590 is a hold over card. Navi isn't coming out for at least another 5-6 months.
Par for the course.Guys... We do this shit every time.
Par for the course.
You would hope [H] members would be a bit more reserved in buying wholeheartedly into these guerrilla plants having seen them again, and again, and again since 1998.
Someone dig up the old Vega thread started in 2013 for a prime example (and laugh). Hell, someone dig up the old R500, R680, Fermi ect, ect threads for that matter -- rampant, gravy train, myopic optimism.
The new 3000 series may even the pack somewhat in price/performance, but they're not launching for a while and no where near well-priced as some folks in this thread are purporting.
You would hope [H] members would be a bit more reserved in buying wholeheartedly into these guerrilla plants having seen them again, and again, and again since 1998.
Someone dig up the old Vega thread started in 2013 for a prime example (and laugh). Hell, someone dig up the old R500, R680, Fermi ect, ect threads for that matter -- rampant, gravy train, myopic optimism.
The new 3000 series may even the pack somewhat in price/performance, but they're not launching for a while and no where near well-priced as some folks in this thread are purporting.
Thing that throws these predictions out the most (apart from price) is the recent launch of the 590 on it's own process from Samsung.
Could this be related somehow? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202326&ignorebbr=1
Vega 64 for $400 with a 3 game bundle and AMD giftcard...
Cleaning the shelves?
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I see it as a test card initially, just a rather large investment for only one card? Will it become the RX650 perhaps...? That might make sense, with a navi or three slotting above and below.Not if you see the RX 590 as a stopgap. No one was waiting for it unlikely that OEM dug a hole for themselves buying in they knew about Navi , it is not a trick where AMD suckers them into the last Polaris and then yells tricked ya we got Navi coming within first half of 2019.
If you look at RX 590 on its own you can see from the power it uses that it is stumbling rather then sprinting across the finish line ..
If the power usage for Navi is like the rumours suggests then it is a very good way to part with Polaris ... Let alone if the die size is small I'm sure that the OEM whom made the RX 590 had a deal on Navi to make sure that the RX 590 saw the daylight that card is hardly what you would proudly say the best that AMD has made (not even the best one from the Polaris family) ...
Will it become the RX650 perhaps...?
https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/04/18/amd_radeon_rx_580_powercolor_red_devil_golden_sample/10I see it as a test card initially, just a rather large investment for only one card? Will it become the RX650 perhaps...? That might make sense, with a navi or three slotting above and below.
590 is best silicon from the Polaris family is it not? Has best clocks..
I really wanted to wait on Navi myself and then when reference Vega 64 hit $400 I finally jumped off my 290x. I’m happy with the purchase, but at 1080p it really wasn’t necessary.It's tempting to just pick up a Vega now. But somehow I feel it makes sense to wait, or grab something used from Ebay for a quick 4K fix.
My GTX 1060 is working just fine (1080p) but the used market seems to get better by the day....
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Did same upgrade (DCUII 290X so no slouch) and it was a nice bump at 1440 but not totally necessary. Can try GTAV finally though, mrs is keen as hell to have a hoon on that too. Everything plays smooth as butter on 60fps locked and the card isn't even really going all out. Not even bothered undervolting it's pretty quiet and stays in the 70° range.I really wanted to wait on Navi myself and then when reference Vega 64 hit $400 I finally jumped off my 290x. I’m happy with the purchase, but at 1080p it really wasn’t necessary.
If you’re at 1080p with a 1060 I’m sure you are doing quite alright (better than my 290x)with game settings, and I’d suggest to wait. (I wish I had but no regrats)
On the other hand, if you do upgrade, there is a certain fun to tweaking Vega. Vega 56 has fun power mods or with Samsung memory you can load 64 bios to it for increased performance. Both models respond well to undervolting and overclocking and finding the right balance of pushing the core is fun.
Same, it's about 800-900 USD here and pretty much OOS or used only, a friendly [H]r helped me out and took advantage of the recent sale. Used computer parts are much cheaper especially if used/tested before sendingI wanted to grab a Vega 64, but in this country it's as expensive as the 1080Ti and the 2080. Not to mention no shops here stock it as it hasn't sold very well at all. Sucks really.
LOL fair point. Didn't even think of that side, however they could just downclock it and polaris is pretty much even with Nvidia in the 10 series in that regard.Probably wouldn't want your lower mid-range card to be drawing two to three times the power of the competition... that kills OEM sales
[comparing to a hypothetical, though perfectly reasonable, 2050(Ti)]
Out of curiosity I would love to know how much the "Average" GPU buyer really cares about power consumption....
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Out of curiosity I would love to know how much the "Average" GPU buyer really cares about power consumption....
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It can benefit from typical problems in locations that are very hot in the summer. The OEM part is where they can cut cost on the power supply lets say compared to something from the RX 5XX range.
I thought that power was always the reason people bought Nvidia
I thought everyone in Minnesota bought at least 5 per household ?GTX480?
It can benefit from typical problems in locations that are very hot in the summer. The OEM part is where they can cut cost on the power supply lets say compared to something from the RX 5XX range.
I thought that power was always the reason people bought Nvidia
It can benefit from typical problems in locations that are very hot in the summer. The OEM part is where they can cut cost on the power supply lets say compared to something from the RX 5XX range.
I thought that power was always the reason people bought Nvidia
Maybe computational power related to FPS. Heheh
I am going to wait for these cards before I upgrade the relative’s rigs from 970s. Good chance they’ll get AMD.
I'm with you. I'd like to use this free sync monitor if I can.Give me 2080 speed at less than nVidia's outrageous pricing and I'll happily replace my 1080Ti and TitanX
2080 speed is what you have already, so getting 2080 speeds would just be a sidegrade anyway... and you'd have to sell your 1080ti at a loss if the Radeon 3xxx can perform on par with it for less $$
Ill take them.I know I already have 2080 speed. I don't mind sidegrading in the least if it gets the nvidia cards out of my builds. Sell it at a loss? I don't care. I'll most likely give both nVidia cards away after replacing them and be happy to be rid of them.
I think the pricing rumors are a little low, but not necessarily inconceivable. I can see AMD pricing, not based on the 20xx NVIDIA series, but more on the 10xx series. It could also be that the initial pricing numbers being tossed about AMD internally are focused more on margin, rather than competitive placement. The final MSRP will be more on competitive placement, but again, I think AMD will be shooting more for performance comparison to 20xx Nvidia, at 10xxx price points. Or they don't look at Nvidia at all, and are wanting to clean the stack with Navi.
I think the pricing rumors are a little low, but not necessarily inconceivable. I can see AMD pricing, not based on the 20xx NVIDIA series, but more on the 10xx series. It could also be that the initial pricing numbers being tossed about AMD internally are focused more on margin, rather than competitive placement. The final MSRP will be more on competitive placement, but again, I think AMD will be shooting more for performance comparison to 20xx Nvidia, at 10xxx price points. Or they don't look at Nvidia at all, and are wanting to clean the stack with Navi.
I know I already have 2080 speed. I don't mind sidegrading in the least if it gets the nvidia cards out of my builds. Sell it at a loss? I don't care. I'll most likely give both nVidia cards away after replacing them and be happy to be rid of them.
I can understand that if you already have a freesync monitor or if you are looking at buying one. Otherwise it might end up costing you more money. Personally, i do not believe the $250 2080 performance. That would render everything Nvidia has as useless.