How about a Buy/Not Buy 2080/Ti Pricing Poll

2080/Ti Pricing and Your Buying Decision

  • Will purhcase 2080/Ti at inflated prices no matter what

    Votes: 23 9.2%
  • Will wait till prices fall to normal and purchase 2080/Ti

    Votes: 72 28.7%
  • Not buying 2080/Ti even if prices fall back to normal

    Votes: 156 62.2%

  • Total voters
    251
It's... Mr. Shake, sir. It's not much of a defense that the card "actually costs less than a used car."
That was intended as a hyperbolic statement about Titan V pricing, not "regular" Titan/2080ti pricing.



It's both. MSRP for the FE 2080ti is $1199. This was stated by Nvidia.
And I misquoted. Apologies - fixed!

In either case, yes the things will sell out. That doesn't mean the entire market will bear it though. Right now, immediately after launch, demand is exceeding supply. If you look at the market as a whole though... heck, look at the poll on this thread. This is a hardware enthusiast forum - it's a niche slice of the whole market and it's a place where people are far more likely to pay the early adopter's tax than you'll find in a general sampling of end users - and even here, more than half of the votes go to "I'm not buying it period."

The disadvantages of early adoption are enough to discourage people from buying new tech, but add a 70% price increase over the previous gen, and your sales are gonna be less than impressive.

I do have to wonder though, if this really has anything to do with R&D costs. It's a plausible explanation, of course, but I find the giant stockpile of unsold 10-series chips to be a better explanation.

Think about it: in a year, when all the 1080s have been bought, Nvidia can sell their flagship GPU at an MSRP of $900, and wow what a fantastic deal! Remember when these were $1,200!? I'd be crazy not to buy one now!
 
Think about it: in a year, when all the 1080s have been bought, Nvidia can sell their flagship GPU at an MSRP of $900, and wow what a fantastic deal! Remember when these were $1,200!? I'd be crazy not to buy one now!

You're certainly not wrong. While I think the public (and Nvidia shareholders) is freaking out about the fact that their new main stream halo card (XX80ti as opposed to Titan) does not track at all with the value of previous iterations, the entire Titan demographic is salivating over the 2080ti. What you say is absolutely true about the same card being released later for a much lower cost, but again, this wouldn't be the first time. It didn't stop me (or many others) from buying Titan X pascals for $1200 in August 2016 when we knew the 1080ti was likely to released by summer 2017 at a fraction of the cost. Obviously, most people don't think this way when purchasing, but my point is just that some do, and I think it'll be enough to saturate supply for at least a while.

Regarding the poll, I'm honestly surprised the number of people planning to buy at as high as they are. 40% is a pretty decent chunk of even the enthusiast market for such a pricey GPU. Admitting that some of those could be the 2080, I think that one makes even less sense than the ti given performance parity with the 1080ti at increased cost, so I'm guessing most of those are actually ti buyers.
 
If a 2080Ti fell down to the $650-750 range I'd probably snag one.

Or if we get a powerful Titan card again, I'd be willing to spend $1200.

The 2080Ti isn't worth the Titan price tag.
 
Super hard pass this time around, with the 2080ti being ~ $1650 + tax here in Canada, my 1080 FE @ 1440p will have to endure 100’s of more hours of abuse. I’ll be upgrading my platform before a new GPU.
 
Super hard pass this time around, with the 2080ti being ~ $1650 + tax here in Canada, my 1080 FE @ 1440p will have to endure 100’s of more hours of abuse. I’ll be upgrading my platform before a new GPU.
Amen to that. With Intel and AMD actually competing again, this seems like a perfect GPU generation for a CPU upgrade. XD
 
NVIDIA RTX Marketing when the demos are misleading and when they're impressive


NVidia didn't plan the cooler to be removed, they expect you to just buy another one when the first one it's full of dust. Pretty much like apple products.

 
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I'm in the "only at normal prices" camp for sure. The improvement in speeds isn't massive, but is big enough that I'll bite. 30% is around when I feel an upgrade can be worth it, and it looks like you see that or more in pretty much everything so ok. However I'm not paying $1200 for that upgrade. It would need to be much larger for me to consider it, and even then that's more than I'm probably willing to spend. So if the Tis come down to $700, then ya, probably I'll get one. At the current prices, nope.

The raytracing and other shit holds no interest to me. Not because I don't think it is a cool tech that has the potential to make games much better, but because I know that right now it isn't going to amount to much. A first gen technology not supported by the other graphics cards (AMD and Intel are not a trivial part of the games market, people use them) or the consoles is just not going to see widespread adoption or tightly integrated use. It'll be a limited thing, mostly for show. I'd play with it if I had it, but I'm not going to go out of my way to get it.
 
NVIDIA RTX Marketing when the demos are misleading and when they're impressive


NVidia didn't plan the cooler to be removed, they expect you to just buy another one when the first one it's full of dust. Pretty much like apple products.



SEVENTY SCREWS & A HEAT GUN!!! LOL OMG!
 
If normal as in priced with previous generation launches, then I'd consider it.I got my 1080ti for under MSRP just shortly after launch, and with the gain in performance over the previous gen, it was worth it.
 
NVIDIA RTX Marketing when the demos are misleading and when they're impressive


NVidia didn't plan the cooler to be removed, they expect you to just buy another one when the first one it's full of dust. Pretty much like apple products.



SEVENTY SCREWS & A HEAT GUN!!! LOL OMG!

That does seem pretty excessive. Who has ever taken their cooler apart to clean it though? That wasn’t to get it off the card, that was taking it apart for no reason.

I’ve cleaned my cards maybe once and I stick the air nozzle between the blades of the fan and blow. There’s literally no reason to disassemble the thing.
 
I'm disappointed in the output options unless I'm missing something. With only 2 DP ports and 2 HDMI that throws running triple 144Hz+ monitors out the window. Unless I missed that HDMI could now run at 1440/144Hz.
 
I'm disappointed in the output options unless I'm missing something. With only 2 DP ports and 2 HDMI that throws running triple 144Hz+ monitors out the window. Unless I missed that HDMI could now run at 1440/144Hz.

There are AIB cards with up to 7 outputs.
 
That does seem pretty excessive. Who has ever taken their cooler apart to clean it though? That wasn’t to get it off the card, that was taking it apart for no reason.

I’ve cleaned my cards maybe once and I stick the air nozzle between the blades of the fan and blow. There’s literally no reason to disassemble the thing.

I think the video was shown how to take it apart also for those who intend to water-cool not that easy on a $1200 card from the last gen,
 
I think the video was shown how to take it apart also for those who intend to water-cool not that easy on a $1200 card from the last gen,

No.. the glue and all that was just the fan/heatsink assembly. You don’t need to do that for any reason.
 
I thought the same at first but I looked really close since I ordered one of the things and a waterblock. ;)
Still though, needing to replace the fans on a GPU heatsink isn't an unheard of repair for a person to do by themselves.
No.. the glue and all that was just the fan/heatsink assembly. You don’t need to do that for any reason.
Except replace a bad fan. Not that common a thing, certainly, but it is a reason.
 
Still though, needing to replace the fans on a GPU heatsink isn't an unheard of repair for a person to do by themselves.

Except replace a bad fan. Not that common a thing, certainly, but it is a reason.

True, And some people are buying these new cards for more than just gaming, so fan life might become an issue down the line.
 
So 4K DLSS is similar in quality and performance to running a game at 1800p. Interesting...

 
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