GoFundMe Homeless Vet Scammers Get Visit from Johnny Law

NKD said:
it is truly amazing. While alot are legit. I feel like people start go fund me for anything these days. Like they say if you can appeal to people's emotions you can sell them on anything as long as they can afford it. This is just whatever you can afford type of fund lol!
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It's no different than any other religion. Same concept.
 
dumbfuck people keep donating to these fundmes.

So fucking generous with their dollars, yet they never think to donate to poverty stricken people overseas who actually work and deserve money more than this druggy piece of shit.
 
RealBeast said:
I'd like to test that theory, perhaps I should set up a page myself for that educational purpose. ;)
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Heh. Most people have no trouble earning $400K over time. However, when suddenly given that amount at once, a lot of things go through a person's mind and their true color shows. Greed is one of the seven deadly sins.

I'm disgusted by this couple, Even if that money will be wasted on drugs, they should have handed it over but they didn't by using that drug addictions excuse. They are already planning on what to do with that $200K and thinking up of a way to negotiate with the homeless guy to keep half of it. I know for a fact they don't think he deserves all of it for one second.
 
Smashing Young Man said:
Ugh. Though McClure and D'Amico are probably scum, by what right does the government have to come barging in and seizing property before a single charge has been brought against them?
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It's called a warrant to search for evidence based on embezzlement.
 
snowcrash said:
Heh. Most people have no trouble earning $400K over time. However, when suddenly given that amount at once, a lot of things go through a person's mind and their true color shows. Greed is one of the seven deadly sins.

I'm disgusted by this couple, Even if that money will be wasted on drugs, they should have handed it over but they didn't by using that drug addictions excuse. They are already planning on what to do with that $200K and thinking up of a way to negotiate with the homeless guy to keep half of it. I know for a fact they don't think he deserves all of it for one second.
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Neither side deserves the money. No reason to give a known drug addict (regardless of his past military service) $400,000 and no reason for the couple to keep the money. If anything they should have donated it to a worthwhile cause after realizing that the vet was a shitbag.
 
polonyc2 said:
the couple wasn't expecting that donations would get that high...when it did greed took over...
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That, and they probably justified taking the money when they realized how much stress a junkie can bring into their lives .... the old mantra: the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

They should have selected an attorney, then forked the money over to him so he could worry about it.
 
kirbyrj said:
Neither side deserves the money. No reason to give a known drug addict (regardless of his past military service) $400,000 and no reason for the couple to keep the money. If anything they should have donated it to a worthwhile cause after realizing that the vet was a shitbag.
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Why are you mad people donated their money to a homeless man?
 
SixFootDuo said:
GoFundMe is now saying they will give this guy his entire $400K.

Which is cool but at the same time they need to do this to maintain trust in their platform would would think.
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There definitely has to be some form of vetting.

Ask for 5k just because, you're free and clear.
Need 150k for medical bilsl, let's see those receipts.
Want 50k to increase reward money for a missing child, prove that you're not a scammer.
Ask for 75k to help victims of the latest disaster etc, the money needs to go in an escrow with further verification when withdrawn
Make over 399k on an internet outrage of the week, the brakes need to kick in and see what's really going on.

Something needs to change.
 
wizzi01 said:
Why are you mad people donated their money to a homeless man?
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Because he's a drug addict. There's no reason to give drug addicts more money to enable their habits. I'm not saying this couple is good or noble, but when I first read about this story maybe 2 weeks ago, it sounded like he was just blowing the money on drugs despite the couple's efforts to help him and they got sick of funding his drug habit.

Now obviously you don't keep the money, but I can see why this homeless guy doesn't deserve another dime.
 
kirbyrj said:
Because he's a drug addict. There's no reason to give drug addicts more money to enable their habits.
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So. It's my money. If I want to give it to a drug addict homeless man, that is my right. You have no say in how I spend my money.

You need to get the perspective correct. It is the couple's actions that are reprehensible. Not the homeless guy. Stop focusing on him.
 
snowcrash said:
So. It's my money. If I want to give it to a drug addict homeless man, that is my right. You have no say in how I spend my money.

You need to get the perspective correct. It is the couple's actions that are reprehensible. Not the homeless guy. You need to stop focusing on the homeless guy.
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Maybe YOU need to get your perspective correct...people didn't donate to the homeless man, they donated to the couple to assist the homeless man IIRC. This wasn't the homeless guy's gofundme page, it was the couples. I already said they shouldn't keep the money, but I can see why they don't want to give the guy more money.
 
kirbyrj said:
Maybe YOU need to get your perspective correct...people didn't donate to the homeless man, they donated to the couple to assist the homeless man IIRC. This wasn't the homeless guy's gofundme page, it was the couples. I already said they shouldn't keep the money, but I can see why they don't want to give the guy more money.
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I'm sure the couple's brand new shiny BMW should give you some much needed perspective. I suggest to you once again to get your perspective correct and stop focusing on the homeless vet.

People donated money that was set up to go to him. And that is where it will end up. No matter what. He didn't ask for it. He is innocent of all this. Including your derision of him.
 
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Smashing Young Man said:
Ugh. Though McClure and D'Amico are probably scum, by what right does the government have to come barging in and seizing property before a single charge has been brought against them?
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Charges will be forthcoming and probably already in the Grand Jury system hence the search warrant and seizure of items. One theory floating around is that all three were in cahoots and then had a difference of opinion about the split. Sad to see what was a nice story turn into such a cluster fuck. Given Mr. Bobbit's prior drug issues; its likely he would have blown through the money anyway. GoFundMe has stated they will make him "whole" in the legal sense. I just hope he doesn't get it and overdose. Florence, where the couple resides, is known to have a high concentration of less than savory characters(grew up in a neighboring area and have long since left).
 
concerned how he will spend it....create a trust...bank auto transfer 3 to 5k every month to him till its gone.
walk away!
 
Smashing Young Man said:
Do they need to seize the car as evidence? It isn't a frickin' bag of cocaine that can be flushed down the toilet. There is already enough of a paper trail when it comes to proof-of-purchase to be used at a later date in a trial.

Property seizures are my biggest gripes against the government. For a supposed ownership society, we really don't own anything. It's all subject to government confiscation at any moment with the flimsiest of justifications.

People these days are the proverbial slow-boiled frog when it comes to accepting the government's growing power over us. How this is okay with anyone just boggles my mind.

The government should not be able to seize so much as a dust bunny from under my couch until after I've been proven guilty in a court of law.
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That frog was served for dinner long ago.

Eminent domain laws have been around for a long time in one form or another, (William the conqueror seized basically an entire country in 1066) Taxes have been around for as long as their has been currency.

The drug property seizures are just variations on things Government has been doing forever with no obligation for recompense.
 
aliaskary77 said:
concerned how he will spend it....create a trust...bank auto transfer 3 to 5k every month to him till its gone.
walk away!
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Or even better, autopayments from the trust to some kind of affordable housing. Auto-replenishing card to purchase groceries. Monthly stipend for either public transport or some kind of affordable personal transport.

You can do a lot with that. And of course with 400k you can pay for SOME FUCKING REHAB as part of accepting the deal.
 
kirbyrj said:
Because he's a drug addict. There's no reason to give drug addicts more money to enable their habits. I'm not saying this couple is good or noble, but when I first read about this story maybe 2 weeks ago, it sounded like he was just blowing the money on drugs despite the couple's efforts to help him and they got sick of funding his drug habit.

Now obviously you don't keep the money, but I can see why this homeless guy doesn't deserve another dime.
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Getting the help to kick the habit can be expensive though; I've seen it first hand.

Anyways, despite everything else, the donation page the couple set up was to raise money for the homeless guy; they really don't have the moral right to decide "Nah, he shouldn't get the money after all", much less keep it (and spend it!) themselves. They *may* have the legal right though; not sure on what the TOS is for something like this.

Personally? Either give the homeless man the money in small amounts, with the threat of forfeiting it all back to the local/state government if he relapses (note: reducing drug use over time is a viable way to kick the habit, so there's "some" wiggle here).
 
snowcrash said:
I'm sure the couple's brand new shiny BMW should give you some much needed perspective.
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It's a 230i, if they would have came an taken the couple's brand new shiny Honda Accord Touring 2.0T would you be pointing it out like it's a big deal?
 
Filthy thieves, can we bring back cutting off people's hands?
Bet you their next accuse will be, "blah blah, we set it up, we took time out of our lives to help him, we deserve compensation, share the wealth..... blah blah)
 
If that money is actually proven to be gone, then jail time is in order for the guilty.
 
so.. from my very limited understanding of this all, the real mistake that those 2 did was to NOT set it up as a company so they could take their large cut as an "administrative fee" LOL.. like most "charities"
 
Dead Parrot said:
From the OP: "search warrant was executed early this morning by . . .

They have a warrant and the car might be evidence for the likely fraud charges. So far, doesn't sound like the usual civil forfeiture shakedown. Sounds like none of the original parties can be trusted with large amounts of money or assets. The couple apparently lost over $200,000 and the vet lost a camper and most of the money he did get.
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Reading is fundamental. Executing a search warrant now means "the gubbament took all my stuff".
 
snowcrash said:
WTF. Are you defending the scumbag couples?
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No one is defending them. But what does a 35k car say about them? It's not like they went out and bought a 200k vehicle with the money, the fact that they have a BMW has no bearing on it, it could have been a 35k Honda Accord. Would you say well of course they stole that money and ran out and bought a Honda with it, those scum bags!
 
I'm going to bet the IRS is watching very closely and WILL get its share too.
 
kirbyrj said:
Because he's a drug addict. There's no reason to give drug addicts more money to enable their habits. I'm not saying this couple is good or noble, but when I first read about this story maybe 2 weeks ago, it sounded like he was just blowing the money on drugs despite the couple's efforts to help him and they got sick of funding his drug habit.

Now obviously you don't keep the money, but I can see why this homeless guy doesn't deserve another dime.
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It isn't your money they are giving him so stop crying.
 
This just highlights the issues with GFM and similar "charity" sites. I think both sides are wrong and neither deserve any money.

Fraud might be tough depending on how the husband and wife utilized the money. If they were smart and put themselves as admins and took "fees" the prosecutors might have an issue calling fraud. If they just flat out bought shit, like Kermit Washington, then they could be in trouble. The IRS would be the best way to jail them and seize their stuff.

Most charities that have a skimming problem is from huge admin fees or salaries.
 
Probleminfected said:
That’s it, I’m putting up a go fund me page for myself.
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Nothing wrong with that as long as you are honest about it. (You may not get very muchoney though)

At issue here is that they deceived donors into believing they were going to give it to this homeless man, and then didn't. That's fraud.

People get more worked up for some reason just because the guy was a vet, but that really doesn't matter to the law (and shouldn't matter from a moral outrage perspective either). Fraud is fraud.
 
ND40oz said:
No one is defending them. But what does a 35k car say about them? It's not like they went out and bought a 200k vehicle with the money, the fact that they have a BMW has no bearing on it, it could have been a 35k Honda Accord. Would you say well of course they stole that money and ran out and bought a Honda with it, those scum bags!
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Exactly. The days of "ZOMG!!! BMW!!!! They must be FILTHY RICH to afford that" are long past, plenty of mundane cars have caught up in cost, and even surpassed them. The brand of car has absolutely no bearing on it. A new car of any type is a scumbag move and pretty damn obvious considering they didn't even have gas money a short time ago. Yes, there are crazy expensive BMW models. But have you proceed some basic trucks these days, not super heavy duty things, just your basic F150 or Chevy 1500. Just rode in my boss's new F150, pretty sure that cost 3x what I paid for my BMW (used).

Problem here is there really are no good guys in this. The couple pretty obviously scammed a huge chunk of the money. The homeless guy got more than 2x my yearly salary (with which I afford a house, aforementioned BMW, food, taxes, and utilities) and blew it. Yeah, they should have gone the extra step and set up a fund to pay out tot he guy gradually with direct payment for housing so he COULDN'T blow it on drugs and whatever. Lots of things wrong with this whole story, no one involved is innocent here.
 
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