GoFundMe Homeless Vet Scammers Get Visit from Johnny Law

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No charges have been filed yet against this couple that put together a GoFundMe campaign for this homeless man that helped them out of a scrape on night. Katie McClure and Mark D'Amico then put together a fundraising drive that brought in over $400,000. Although Bobbitt did get about between $75,000 and $200,000 of the money, it seems the rest has "vanished." No charges have been filed yet, but a BMW and bags of evidence were secured from McClure's and D'Amico's home this morning. Womp womp.


Burlington County said a "search warrant was executed early this morning by the Burlington County Prosecutor’s Office and the Florence Township Police Department at the residence of D'Amico and McClure in connection with a criminal investigation into the Johnny Bobbitt matter."
 
Grand Theft GoFundMe. The online game that pays you to play.
These morons were just doing it wrong.
Like Robin Hood in Shrek, they should take a small percentage and not be greedy.
 
A sweet new whip, a couple of nice vacations and a nasty gambling addiction can sure put a hurtin on $200k.
sad
 
Ugh. Though McClure and D'Amico are probably scum, by what right does the government have to come barging in and seizing property before a single charge has been brought against them?
 
Ugh. Though McClure and D'Amico are probably scum, by what right does the government have to come barging in and seizing property before a single charge has been brought against them?

Hey you cut it out with your being rational and expecting due process. These people have been tried and convicted in the court of public opinion and we all know that's the highest court in the land :) .

Just like how it's ok for the government to preform warrentless searches and compel people to testify against themselves as long as they are accused of harming children; its also ok to seize peoples property without due proccess as long as they seem like scumbags. God didn't you learn anything from Law and Order.


You know because veterans and America and I have a daughter too and what if that happens to her....
 
Hey you cut it out with your being rational and expecting due process. These people have been tried and convicted in the court of public opinion and we all know that's the highest court in the land :) .

Just like how it's ok for the government to preform warrentless searches and compel people to testify against themselves as long as they are accused of harming children; its also ok to seize peoples property without due proccess as long as they seem like scumbags. God didn't you learn anything from Law and Order.


You know because veterans and America and I have a daughter too and what if that happens to her....


Deep breath, relax, drop the cool aid, and spell check.
 
it is truly amazing. While alot are legit. I feel like people start go fund me for anything these days. Like they say if you can appeal to people's emotions you can sell them on anything as long as they can afford it. This is just whatever you can afford type of fund lol!
 
Ugh. Though McClure and D'Amico are probably scum, by what right does the government have to come barging in and seizing property before a single charge has been brought against them?

From the OP: "search warrant was executed early this morning by . . .

They have a warrant and the car might be evidence for the likely fraud charges. So far, doesn't sound like the usual civil forfeiture shakedown. Sounds like none of the original parties can be trusted with large amounts of money or assets. The couple apparently lost over $200,000 and the vet lost a camper and most of the money he did get.
 
From the OP: "search warrant was executed early this morning by . . .

They have a warrant and the car might be evidence for the likely fraud charges. So far, doesn't sound like the usual civil forfeiture shakedown. Sounds like none of the original parties can be trusted with large amounts of money or assets. The couple apparently lost over $200,000 and the vet lost a camper and most of the money he did get.
Do they need to seize the car as evidence? It isn't a frickin' bag of cocaine that can be flushed down the toilet. There is already enough of a paper trail when it comes to proof-of-purchase to be used at a later date in a trial.

Property seizures are my biggest gripes against the government. For a supposed ownership society, we really don't own anything. It's all subject to government confiscation at any moment with the flimsiest of justifications.

People these days are the proverbial slow-boiled frog when it comes to accepting the government's growing power over us. How this is okay with anyone just boggles my mind.

The government should not be able to seize so much as a dust bunny from under my couch until after I've been proven guilty in a court of law.
 
the couple wasn't expecting that donations would get that high...when it did greed took over...
 
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What charges can be filed anyway?


like somebody else stated, fraud. They created the account to raise money for somebody else and didn't use the money for that. I can't go on TV, radio, internet, paper, etc and say that I am raising money for St Jude's Children hospital, get tons of sponsors for events to raise money for the hospital, then when done say ha ha fuck you this really was just to raise money for me. Which is what they did here. They raised money, gave him some then spent the other $300,000 on stuff for themselves.


Ugh. Though McClure and D'Amico are probably scum, by what right does the government have to come barging in and seizing property before a single charge has been brought against them?

This stuff is evidence in the case. They were told last month that that had to turn over ALL the money along with records of what money was given to the guy they raised it for. They never came to court and through their lawyer said they couldn't give him the $200,000+ because all the money was gone. It was said (by the person suing them) that the money was used to buy this BMW along with other items. The judge is very concerned that they are going to try to hide stuff or flee the area to get out of this case. So she probably had everything gathered as evidence until the case is done to make sure they don't sell it off and split with the money. This is an active trial where they have not meet a single court order requirement yet and have refused to show up for court saying that showing up for court would violate their 5th amendment. So it isn't like they randomly had thing taken.
 
Do they need to seize the car as evidence? It isn't a frickin' bag of cocaine that can be flushed down the toilet. There is already enough of a paper trail when it comes to proof-of-purchase to be used at a later date in a trial.

Property seizures are my biggest gripes against the government. For a supposed ownership society, we really don't own anything. It's all subject to government confiscation at any moment with the flimsiest of justifications.

People these days are the proverbial slow-boiled frog when it comes to accepting the government's growing power over us. How this is okay with anyone just boggles my mind.

The government should not be able to seize so much as a dust bunny from under my couch until after I've been proven guilty in a court of law.

The car was said to have been purchased with money from this case so yes. They have already hid all the money from the court and refused to give them a cent. So I wouldn't put it past them to hide the car also.
 
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The car was said to have been purchased with money from this case so yes. They have already hid all the money from the court and refused to give them a cent. So I wouldn't put it past them to hide the car also.
"Was said to have been purchased . . .". So not proven to have been purchased in a court of law?
 
Fucking retards.

You have to be a step passed stupid to donate to GoFundMe. This is no exception - but this was especially laughable. Look I can understand - the hobo was a fucking drug addict, they didn't want to hand over $400k to the drug addict.... but that doesn't entitle you to it either.

Well maybe it does, but it still ultimately results in you being a giant piece of fucking shit. I hope all parties here fucking DIAF. No one in this story is worth breathing in this world.
 
aren't 99 percent of gofundme's a scam?

par for the course really.
Considering the haste that these come up after major catastrophe, I'm sure many people are just waiting for their chance to set up one. If my child died, I wouldn't be online asking for money 2 days later, it's just crazy.

And the sad part is, we live in a society trying to evolve away from shame. Eventually nothing you do will be looked down on.
 
I mean, to put it 100% as simple as possible and sum up this thread in one sentence....

"A fool and their money are soon parted."
 
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Could they be under investigation for Wire Fraud?

I don't know the details, but that's the closest thing I can think of that would apply.

EDIT: pcgeekesq pointed this out already.
 
Grand Theft GoFundMe. The online game that pays you to play.
These morons were just doing it wrong.
Like Robin Hood in Shrek, they should take a small percentage and not be greedy.

haha ya like GoFundMe or kickstarter just take a small cut.
 
What charges can be filed anyway?

I am sure there is some sort of fraud, I mean they said it was for the homeless guy and they spent it. So clearly people paid for one thing and it never went to it, I am sure there are laws that protect people who donate to charity.

From the OP: "search warrant was executed early this morning by . . .

They have a warrant and the car might be evidence for the likely fraud charges. So far, doesn't sound like the usual civil forfeiture shakedown. Sounds like none of the original parties can be trusted with large amounts of money or assets. The couple apparently lost over $200,000 and the vet lost a camper and most of the money he did get.

haha ya I have actually been watching this story a little it peaks my interest on personalities. First you got a guy and a lady that somehow completely run out of money to the point they have to borrow $20. How does not one but actually 2 whole people that own a car and have a life not have any money on them and not even pay attention to their gas? Well all that screams lack of even the most rudimentary of short term planning and hints at major issues with responsibility. So then these people start a GoFundMe for the homeless guy. Well why is the guy homeless? Again probably has mental issues.

The TLDR is it doesn't matter where the money went or who got it cause in a couple years or maybe a couple months it was all going to be gone in the hands of any of the 3 parties. Now its possible I have underestimated one party and they have actually stashed it somewhere and are pulling off a longer term fraud.
 
So I take it you are ok with the government just taking peoples things without due process... fair enough the future seems to be trending your way so enjoy your dystopia. Don't worry I am sure the government will only ever abuse it's power to hurt the bad guys.

There are cases I do not agree with but in this case I feel it is perfectly OK for the judge to order a warrant to collect property as evidence, as the property that was bought with the money probably was the evidence.
 
So I take it you are ok with the government just taking peoples things without due process...
They got due process: there was a search warrant, read the first post.

My dim recollection is that the police can seize evidence during an investigation if they have a search warrant (or under exigent circumstances). Otherwise, the sewers would be full of narcotics and no one would ever go to jail for selling them.

But this is not legal advice: criminal law is not my practice area.
 
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Ugh. Though McClure and D'Amico are probably scum, by what right does the government have to come barging in and seizing property before a single charge has been brought against them?
It's called a search warrant. You have to do the search in order to gain the information for charges.

I'd forgive this lady if she was convincing enough.
 
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Hey if these funding sites get a piece of the action and its not illegal, then why would it be illegal for others who put up the funding page? Half humor though, because its not like all the money donated to the Red Cross, or others similar funds all goes to the disaster they are using to get people to donate, some of those higher ups make really nice salaries
Because GoFundMe discloses their fees, and these other people solicit donations on the idea that all of it goes to the homeless dude.
 
"Was said to have been purchased . . .". So not proven to have been purchased in a court of law?

They are working on that right now. Some times things are taken for the them to be used to build more for the case or to help prove guilt. If you say that I stole your car do I get to keep the car and the cops never look at it until I got to court and am found guilty of stealing your car? How can you prove I stole your car if the cops are never allowed to look at the car or be anywhere on my land until I have been proven guilty? How about if I am said to be running a drug dealing operation in my house? Do the cops have to stay out of my house and away from all the drug not being allowed to collect any evidence until after I am found guilty?

I am sure there is some sort of fraud, I mean they said it was for the homeless guy and they spent it. So clearly people paid for one thing and it never went to it, I am sure there are laws that protect people who donate to charity.



haha ya I have actually been watching this story a little it peaks my interest on personalities. First you got a guy and a lady that somehow completely run out of money to the point they have to borrow $20. How does not one but actually 2 whole people that own a car and have a life not have any money on them and not even pay attention to their gas? Well all that screams lack of even the most rudimentary of short term planning and hints at major issues with responsibility. So then these people start a GoFundMe for the homeless guy. Well why is the guy homeless? Again probably has mental issues.

The TLDR is it doesn't matter where the money went or who got it cause in a couple years or maybe a couple months it was all going to be gone in the hands of any of the 3 parties. Now its possible I have underestimated one party and they have actually stashed it somewhere and are pulling off a longer term fraud.

Add to that, one month they couldn't afford gas, then 2 or 3 months later can afford to buy a BMW outright and then go on trips around the world. They must have both go some hell of a raise.
 
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I like how everyone here is on the tin foil hat train about "the gubbmint can just take anything they want" blah blah they had a warrant, and after all the shit this couple has pulled probable cause as well.

Most probably don't know that these shitbag people who defrauded the homeless dude and are basically human garbage also didn't show up for a court appearance and it can easily be argued a flight risk as well.
 
Hey if these funding sites get a piece of the action and its not illegal, then why would it be illegal for others who put up the funding page? Half humor though, because its not like all the money donated to the Red Cross, or others similar funds all goes to the disaster they are using to get people to donate, some of those higher ups make really nice salaries
That's why you ought to be contributing to charities like this: Semper Fi Fund and since you should check this site before you donate a cent to ANY charity: here;'s their Charity Navigator rating

You can even get Bezos to donate half a percent of every dollar you spend on Amazon to the charity by using smile.amazon.com.
 
I like how everyone here is on the tin foil hat train about "the gubbmint can just take anything they want" blah blah they had a warrant, and after all the shit this couple has pulled probable cause as well.

Sounds like something a drug smuggler would say.
 
GoFundMe is now saying they will give this guy his entire $400K.

Which is cool but at the same time they need to do this to maintain trust in their platform would would think.
 
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