R7000 vs R8000

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atreidesgoldenpath

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I have loved my R7000 for 3 years until recently I started having wireless issues.

I thought upgrading to a R8000 was a no brainer but it lasted 2 days before I took that piece of junk back to Best Buy for a refund.

The range was horrible compared to my R7000. On 5G I was down to 1 Mbps in my kitchen which is about 20 feet from the router. Outside my house I could get neither band whereas with the R7000 I had coverage all around the outside of my house.
 
atreidesgoldenpath said:
Thank you. I opted for the AC-LR for a few more bucks, hoping to squeeze a little more range out. I'm looking at EdgeRouter vs USG now... I got cross-eyed trying to find a consumer router < $300 that works well. I'm convinced there isn't one right now.
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You won't need the LR, but good job!
 
goodcooper said:
You won't need the LR, but good job!
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I went from so excited to so disappointed.

I can only get a total bandwidth of 50 Mbps out of the AP no matter what I do.

I have a 200 Meg connection.

I even had Ubiquiti remote into my controller to troubleshoot and they could not resolve or increase the speed at all.
 
atreidesgoldenpath said:
I went from so excited to so disappointed.

I can only get a total bandwidth of 50 Mbps out of the AP no matter what I do.

I have a 200 Meg connection.

I even had Ubiquiti remote into my controller to troubleshoot and they could not resolve or increase the speed at all.
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Sounds like you have real bad placement, and/or super congested bands
 
goodcooper said:
Sounds like you have real bad placement, and/or super congested bands
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This is with me sitting 5-10 feet from the AP with line of sight.

I did an RF scan and there doesn’t appear to be any 5GHz activity showing up.

The cap is so conspicuously at 50 Mbps.
 
Some progress. I temporarily installed a new Linksys EA9300 router (only thing available at Walmart). My speed tests are up to 90 Mbps through the AC-LR. I put an order in for the USG, after which I will return the EA9300 to Walmart. The EA9300 is not that impressive. It's doing some QoS stuff that was throttling me, even with it turned off. Stupid consumer routers!

Hopefully the USG arriving on Tuesday will put everything right.........
 
Significant problems with three different brand new devices, I dunno, maybe there's issues with your computer itself?
 
ZeqOBpf6 said:
Significant problems with three different brand new devices, I dunno, maybe there's issues with your computer itself?
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I'm not talking about performance on my computer, I'm talking about wireless performance to my phones and iPads.

The EA9300 appears to do some throttling by default even though the default setting for QoS is disabled. After you enable the QoS, and set your maximum bandwidth, and then disable QoS again, it doesn't do the throttling. Speeds went from the LAN connection from 100 to 200 Mbps.

I am getting my full bandwidth now through the EA9300, I just don't like the interface.

iPhone 8 wireless speed test this morning:

EA9300: 178 Mbps
UAP-AC-LR: 87 Mbps
 
atreidesgoldenpath said:
I'm not talking about performance on my computer, I'm talking about wireless performance to my phones and iPads.

The EA9300 appears to do some throttling by default even though the default setting for QoS is disabled. After you enable the QoS, and set your maximum bandwidth, and then disable QoS again, it doesn't do the throttling. Speeds went from the LAN connection from 100 to 200 Mbps.

I am getting my full bandwidth now through the EA9300, I just don't like the interface.

iPhone 8 wireless speed test this morning:

EA9300: 178 Mbps
UAP-AC-LR: 87 Mbps
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is the port on the ac lite negotiating at 100 or 1000? any time you're around ~88 mbps max, good to check it's negotiating at a gig
 
This is kind of going off topic, but..

I got my USG installed last night and removed the EA9300 from service.

My iPhone 8 wireless speed tests against the AC-LR are up to around 125 Mbps. This is on around 150 Mbps bandwidth when testing through the LAN.

Wireless surfing feels much snappier than it did on my Nighthawk router.

My ISP doesn't seem to be doing a good job of supplying a reliable 200 Mbps speed. Either that, or I need a new cable modem. Geez, I've replaced just about everything else in my network.
 
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atreidesgoldenpath said:
My ISP doesn't seem to be doing a good job of supplying a reliable 200 Mbps speed. Either that, or I need a new cable modem. Geez, I've replaced just about everything else in my network.
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Have them dig into the line quality. Might be a rough connection between the modem and the local loop dropping packets etc. This would look like ping spikes on your end, you won't see the packets dropped as the link between modem and CO is its own connection, and it's something that the provider should be able to observe directly.
 
IdiotInCharge said:
Have them dig into the line quality. Might be a rough connection between the modem and the local loop dropping packets etc. This would look like ping spikes on your end, you won't see the packets dropped as the link between modem and CO is its own connection, and it's something that the provider should be able to observe directly.
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Remotely of course they say everything looks good. They sent some refresh or reset signals to the modem. I seem to be right at 150 Mbps. They offered to schedule someone to come out and look but I don’t have a call back yet.
 
atreidesgoldenpath said:
Remotely of course they say everything looks good. They sent some refresh or reset signals to the modem. I seem to be right at 150 Mbps. They offered to schedule someone to come out and look but I don’t have a call back yet.
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It'd be worth it; I know I have some concerns with my line, and they did admit when they looked remotely that there appeared to be some dropped packets, which I do see as weird lag spikes, but I've just been too busy to worry about it and it hasn't risen above the minor annoyance level yet. If I were gaming competitively, I'd be screaming.

Just have them make sure that their local side is good. If they can't get 200Mbps regularly to a device directly connected to their modem, they're overcharging you ;)
 
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