2080 Ti for $1000 confirmed, HDMI 2.1/VRR confirmed dead for another year

Pre-order is coming up as OOS.

edit: NM they can be checked out now. September 20 is disappointing, along with the price (although I called it spot on). Definitely going to wait for benches!
 
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Well he just bought all the developers. I guess fanboys are buying the cards for developers now. Pass the cost on to consumers and hand developers free.

Honestly with those ray traced shadows, I am not sure if its worth almost double the cost. Seriously 1199 is almost double of last Ti.
 
NKD said:
Hahahah. Thats what I said. I mean I was like thats what the price is almost doubled for on the Ti? I honestly wouldn't be able to tell if I was playing that game.
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I actually think the NPC shadows look better w/ rtx off.

I like when they switch rtx on and jensen goes nuts and the audience is totally silent. lol
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
I actually think the NPC shadows look better w/ rtx off.

I like when they switch rtx on and jensen goes nuts and the audience is totally silent. lol
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Is it me or that is bullshit in METRO? IS the light coming from window so direct? When light comes into my room it lights up other areas even coming from one window. They had it perfect around the table. That looks so unnatural. I mean no way in hell that much light coming through the window everything else is pitch dark in the room.
 
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Okay BF V looks pretty nice with those shadows. I am not sure though if one would really pay attention to that stuff in a fast paced game. But so far it looks best, they implemented it pretty damn good by far.
 
The price... I can handle. Having to pre-order with no benchmarks/reviews... I can handle. Making me wait 18 fucking months for an upgrade to the 1080Ti... I can handle. Having to wait a month after I paid to receive the card... I can handle. The mediocre ray tracing demo... I can handle. The SHADY fucking business practices from Nvidia... Well, that's a little bit tougher, I but I can get past that too.
All this together at once though? Nvidia can get fucked.

I was all set to purchase a 2080Ti the second they were released as long as they were under $1,500. Now, because all of the above has snowballed and pissed me off, I'll be waiting until benchmarks are released before I order. And even then... I think I'm just going to say fuck it, and go with just a 2080.

When it comes to high end gaming, I think this is the end for me. I never would have believed that one company could single handedly turn me off from my hobby... But, Nvidia just has me too salty and seeing as there likely won't be any enthusiast competition in the foreseeable future I just don't see a reason to continue.

I'm pretty sure I'll just grab whatever will give me acceptable performance @2560 x 1440 now and then adjust my future expectations when it comes to graphics while I devote more time and money to other hobbies.
 
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Honestly, if it's twice as fast as the 1080 Ti across the board, the price almost makes sense. I'm also hoping the AIB models will be cheaper like what happened with Pascal FE.

I could see this at $900-$1000 but 1.2k is just insane.
 
IDK you guys but I actually LOVED BF5 demo... was awesome, really..
 
Starting at $499 in the end guys, Jensen just said. That's not bad, though the x70 range just went up $100. If the x60 range goes up to $350-400, they're going to lose a lot of customers...
 
499$ 2070, 699$ 2080, 999$ 2080ti.. was expected.. the 1200$ price was what? some placeholder shit?
 
1000 bucks for 1080ti. I guess that is way to look good hahaha.

But I am disappoiinted, he keeps talking about RTX opps. I am gonan have to wait for the benches.
 
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I want to see some actual FPS gains before dropping 1K on the Ti.
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Yea its iffy right now. He keeps talking RTX opps. So I think only time you see the difference is if you have ray tracing on? Grey area right now.

He didn't give exact fps numbers. They did that with pascal. Like straight up game performance, this time its all about RTX opps. So looking little shady to me.
 
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LOL, typical fucking asus, that equates to $1700 ffs.
 
Okay so 499 is starting price. Founders edition is indeed 1199. 499 for gtx 2070 (599 founder editin), 699 base msrp (799 founders edition) for 2080, 999 msrp base (1199 for founder edition) for 2080ti.


Just like last time they did. Founders edition tax for early adopters. Then you can get after market cards for 1000+.
 
I need to see benchmarks before I bother with anything. This whole "double the RTX OPS per second" thing sounds like a looooooot of marketing. I highly doubt were actually doubling fps in anything. Maybe with all the fancy ray tracing and whatnot turned on, but I want to see performance with all of that off since most games don't use it right now.
 
Nice to see they finally conceded their blower cooler was doing nothing but holding back performance and they finally went to dual fans.
 
So... literally not a word on anything but the raytracing, the x80 Ti now costs what a Titan used to, it's still cut-down (to the same 11 GBs as the 1080 Ti on the memory side), and the raw shader counts and clock speeds are like only 21% over the 1080 Ti with little indication of a drastically improved microarchitecture outside of raytracing.

This is insultingly crappy and after one of the longest generations ever (Pascal), it looks/seems disgustingly weak... ya know, at real gaming, not primitive raytracing tech demos. I don't recall seeing Nvidia be so secretive about real gaming performance at a launch before. It screams "mediocre". Get bent, Jensen. /my 2 cents
 
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So... literally not a word on anything but the raytracing, the x80 Ti now costs what a Titan used to, it's still cut-down (to the same 11 GBs as the 1080 Ti), and the raw shader counts and clock speeds are like only 21% over the 1080 Ti with little indication of a drastically improved microarchitecture outside of raytracing.

This is insultingly crappy and after one of the longest generations ever (Pascal), it looks/seems disgustingly weak... ya know, at real gaming, not primitive raytracing tech demos. I don't recall seeing Nvidia be so secretive about real gaming performance at a launch before. Get bent, Jensen. /my 2 cents
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Them holding back performance numbers does seem dodgy, the whole presentation seemed to be focusing on the ray tracing tech and conveniently ignoring actual performance. Just seems pretty questionable as to why they would do that, unless the rumours were true and the card isn't that much faster.
 
bpizzle1 said:
I need to see benchmarks before I bother with anything. This whole "double the RTX OPS per second" thing sounds like a looooooot of marketing. I highly doubt were actually doubling fps in anything. Maybe with all the fancy ray tracing and whatnot turned on, but I want to see performance with all of that off since most games don't use it right now.
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Yea. Same here. He just talked about RTX opps. Kinda annoying, I mean he is betting on people preordering. It would be funny if no reviews are allowed until actual launch date of september 20th. Pretty much month of pre ordering before reviews? I was expecting the launch sooner, surprised they still pushed it a month. May be they want to milk the founder edition crowd. lol
 
Ghost of Cyrix said:
This is insultingly crappy and after one of the longest generations ever (Pascal), it looks/seems disgustingly weak... ya know, at real gaming, not primitive raytracing tech demos. I don't recall seeing Nvidia be so secretive about real gaming performance at a launch before. It screams "mediocre". Get bent, Jensen. /my 2 cents
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As expected, this is what happens when the competition can't compete. x80ti just became Titan, x80 became x80ti, x70 became x80. If x60 becomes x70 they'll be in trouble as it's a very price sensitive market. Of course they figured out what to do already with the 3gb/6gb x60: the regular x60 will become a new x60ti, and for the regular x60 you'll get a watered down POS that would've been a x50ti in the past.

So, you'll be paying more at every single tier because they can get away with it. Isn't the current GPU situation wonderful?
 
Just ordered a 2080 Ti. Was available on the Nvidia UK site before Jensen even announced it. The site crashed a few times, said "out of stock" when I tried to check out a few times, but eventually it worked and I put in the order for... £1099. Dear lord... Luckily the pound is cheap now. I hope it's worth it, I'll try to defray some of the cost by mining with it. Mining is awful now, but that card has insane compute capabilities, so I'm hoping for at least $40/month. I'd never done anything this insane, the only way I'm able to afford it is because I sold my 1080 Ti, which paid for itself.

Edit: Seems like it's $1000 in the US, I miss home. :(
 
euskalzabe said:
As expected, this is what happens when the competition can't compete. x80ti just became Titan, x80 became x80ti, x70 became x80. If x60 becomes x70 they'll be in trouble as it's a very price sensitive market. Of course they figured out what to do already with the 3gb/6gb x60: the regular x60 will become a new x60ti, and for the regular x60 you'll get a watered down POS that would've been a x50ti in the past.

So, you'll be paying more at every single tier because they can get away with it. Isn't the current GPU situation wonderful?
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Didn't we go through this same bullshit with the 680 when it was realized that the 680 was using the smaller chip (GK104) instead of the bigger gk110 or something?
 
QuantumBraced said:
Just ordered a 2080 Ti. Was available on the Nvidia UK site before Jensen even announced it. The site crashed a few times, said "out of stock" when I tried to check out a few times, but eventually it worked and I put in the order for... £1099. Dear lord... Luckily the pound is cheap now. I hope it's worth it, I'll try to defray some of the cost by mining with it. Mining is awful now, but that card has insane compute capabilities, so I'm hoping for at least $40/month. I'd never done anything this insane, the only way I'm able to afford it is because I sold my 1080 Ti, which paid for itself.

Edit: Seems like it's $1000 in the US, I miss home. :(
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no founders edition is 1199 in the U.S. And I am surprised you ordered it without a single review. I am not ordering anything until I see some benches. I am not buying actual performance off those RTX opps. It almost seemed like Raja was on stage trying to avoid mentioning actual game performance lol.
 
NKD said:
no founders edition is 1199 in the U.S. And I am surprised you ordered it without a single review. I am not ordering anything until I see some benches. I am not buying actual performance off those RTX opps. It almost seemed like Raja was on stage trying to avoid mentioning actual game performance lol.
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Yeah, all of those claims that it's 6-10 times faster than Pascal were in regards to ray tracing only. I think the reason they launched the 2080 Ti alongside the 2080/2070 is because the 2080 will not be faster than the 1080 Ti overall. After all, Pascal was a massive die shrink, Turing is only going from 14nm to 12nm. Still, the 2080 Ti has 500 more CUDA cores than the 1080 Ti, plus the RT and AI cores.

To answer your question, there's value in getting something when it launches, and I'm guessing it will be really hard to get the card at MSRP for at least the next 2 months, so I was happy to jump on the opportunity. I was really surprised the UK site had all the cards listed well in advance of Jensen's announcement (like 45 mins earlier honestly). The US site didn't list them until after. So maybe they messed up, but it allowed me to place an order. I've seen the specs and I'm pretty sure I was going to get it anyway... it's also a safe bet it'll be profitable to mine with in the beginning at least, given the sheer compute capability, despite mining being almost dead now. So I did all of that cost-benefit analysis and decided to go for it... It's the single most expensive PC component I've ever bought, again, only enabled by selling my 1080 Ti which paid for itself.

$1200 for FE in the US makes me feel a bit better, with the cheap pound mine came out to $1400. Usually tech in the UK is like 30-40% more, so that's not an awful deal.

The FE design is pretty cool, though it almost seems like they could have squeezed in a third fan.
 
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I'm curious if I should start digging for 1080 Ti deals or wait for the 2080? The specs are shit and idgaf about ray tracing.
I don't want to wait a month for Nvidia to release a slower GPU that costs like $200 more.

What a weird launch.
 
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