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My oppy 165 @ 2.8GHz + x800xt monstered HL2 and the lost coast tech demo, to the point it even smashed it out smooth as silk 1920x1080 60fps 8 years later!!! I couldn't believe how well it handled source all those years later at that resolution to be honest. Not bad for 256mbIt was so tight playing this on my x800xt-pe back in the day.
There is a 256MB mod for the voodoo 5 6000Looks super VRAM limited. Remember default is 128MB / 4 chips = 32MB effective VRAM. I think if he did the upgrade to 64MB per chip like some folks did with the Voodoo 5 5500, it'd be a lot better.
For reference, the best GPU's available on HL2 release was the GeForce 6800 Ultra/ATI Radeon X850 XT with 256MB VRAM.
There is a 256MB mod for the voodoo 5 6000
i ask myself the same thing, but seems there's people modding themYeah, but why in the world would you try to mod a collector's piece for more performance. There is no value in the performance of these cards. Just like your precious 5800 Ultra...it's not about performance otherwise you'd get a cheaper and better performing 9800 Pro.
Or 5950 Ultra. But I agree 100% I dont see the point in modifying one to that extremity considering their age and performance potential at this point.Yeah, but why in the world would you try to mod a collector's piece for more performance. There is no value in the performance of these cards. Just like your precious 5800 Ultra...it's not about performance otherwise you'd get a cheaper and better performing 9800 Pro.
Or 5950 Ultra. But I agree 100% I dont see the point in modifying one to that extremity considering their age and performance potential at this point.
That didn't happen for me until I started throwing saw blades at zombies with the gravity gun. I'm pretty sure i had to pick my jaw off the floor. Couldn't get enough. And that was playing on a slot A Athlon at 950 and a Radeon LE.i remember exactly how in awe i was when i fisrt fired up HL2 and saw the realism and the physics. No game since then has ever made me feel like I was playing something truly special.
That didn't happen for me until I started throwing saw blades at zombies with the gravity gun. I'm pretty sure i had to pick my jaw off the floor. Couldn't get enough. And that was playing on a slot A Athlon at 950 and a Radeon LE.
I also remember being so stoked to see how these new Voodoo cards performed. And how disappointing it was
My oppy 165 @ 2.8GHz + x800xt monstered HL2 and the lost coast tech demo, to the point it even smashed it out smooth as silk 1920x1080 60fps 8 years later!!! I couldn't believe how well it handled source all those years later at that resolution to be honest. Not bad for 256mb
Yeah it was slow. But it worked. I remember being able to walk away from my desk with my wireless headphones between levels and do something while I waited for the next level to loadDang, and I thought my Athlon 2400 with a Radeon 9600 was slow at the time. I remember running the DX9 demo benchmark at 1024x768 and was getting 10-20 fps.
Yeah, but why in the world would you try to mod a collector's piece for more performance. There is no value in the performance of these cards. Just like your precious 5800 Ultra...it's not about performance otherwise you'd get a cheaper and better performing 9800 Pro.
I have no idea the technical reasons for is demise, but glide was years ahead of dx and ogl in image quality. Pity it died with 3dfxBecause there are 3dfx glide api specific games that wrappers don't run 100% on. You rarely ever see any Nvidia or ATI modding, because there isn't any point to those.
With a late revision VSA-100 chip and increased memory capacity, you could run older games at modern resolutions. I don't have the time or money to do it, but I assume that's the reasoning.
I have no idea the technical reasons for is demise, but glide was years ahead of dx and ogl in image quality. Pity it died with 3dfx
Much of this may be true, I do not know. I do know glide games on 3dfx hardware weren't matched in IQ for years. This I know because I was there. Ymmv.Glide was not ahead of its time. OpenGL at the time was mainly used for workstations and professional graphics. Therefore, a lot of the API had limited uses for games (back then). In the early days (starting late 1995 with the Voodoo), image quality was NOT the first objective; frame rate was the priority in games. Hardware was very limited in capability. But by the time Direct3D 6 rolled around (late 1998), the situation had reversed itself. Video cards like the Nvidia TNT/TNT2 and ATI Rage128 was fast enough and things would only get progressively better.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glide_(API)
It didn't help that 3dfx was aggressively suing glide emulators and was trying to promote Glide API games that made it unplayable (quite literally) on other vendor hardware. Even Direct3D compatible games (like FFVII or Unreal) played like sh1t on anything except 3dfx hardware for months after release.
Much of this may be true, I do not know. I do know glide games on 3dfx hardware weren't matched in IQ for years. This I know because I was there. Ymmv.
Diamond Viper V770 VS V3 3500, and then later on Radeon LE vs V3 3500. The radeon beat the piss out of the V3, provided the game didnt use glide. Glide enabled effects that made the game look super freakin sweet (Janes f15 actually blew my mind at the time). Those effects were not available on DX. The radeon had superior image quality on the desktop.I think that's nostalgia more than anything else. As noted in my previous posted, the Voodoo / Voodoo2 seemed to have the best IQ simply because they were the only cards able to deliver acceptable frame rate for months after release.
https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=36548
As noted at the time, Voodoo 2 was actually a step down in terms of image quality (its dithering was well known). But it was the first card capable of 60+ fps at 800x600 in most era games, so no one gave 2 sh1ts. Voodoo 3 was a big step up, especially with its 22-bit internal rendering. And finally, we have the VSA 100 (Voodoo 4/5). They were a HUGE step up in IQ (native 32-bit rendering, 2K texture support, HW FXAA). Hence they are the most sought after Voodoo cards, as they are also 100% Glide API compatible.
Another thing to note is that analog output quality mattered. Voodoo 1/2 used a passthrough card. So most people used Matrox Millenium's, as their IQ was top notch. On the Nvidia side, it ranged from bad (most OEM's) to decent (STB) to good (Diamond/Hercules) to excellent (Canopus). So if you were one of the 2 dozen people to get a Canopus TNT/TNT2U your experience was much better than most people at the time.