The New Old Pencil Trick for 8th Gen Intel

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The old pencil trick so many of us Thunderbird owners remember is new again.....kinda. Over at Taobao.com, you can order a set of Kapton stickers for 8th generation Intel processors that will allow you to use those on 100 and 200 series chipset motherboards. You will need a modified UEFI however, so don't go crazy with your $15 just yet. They do seem to be selling the UEFI hacks needed to do this as well. Don't let the magic smoke out. Thanks cageymaru.
 
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Remember that time you were just a neophyte builder and you totally turned the power on your in-process build only to watch your Thunderbird go up before your eyes in smoke within 4 seconds of power-on because you, like a complete dumbass, didn't have the HSF on...…...cuz I sure as shit do. On that day, the blue smoke escaped....
 
This doesn't look like bridging traces like we used to, this looks like strips of flexi pcb, with no traces... you paying 15$ for a piece of electrical tape. All you have to do is block the correct 11 (by my count) pads and your good to go. I would guess that nail polish would be more permanent (go full blond and use white out /s) , and packing tape would be just as doable and long as you got the thicker stuff.

TLDR: I would love to see someone order 1 and see if it is conductive... I bet its not.
 
that's just insulating tape, the 6 core cpu's need two pins connected together to work and you need an external programmer to force an unsigned bios on the motherboard. also lastly gigabyte boards need a TON of other pins covered or you WILL blow the VRM up all other make boards so far as i have seen / heard of do not and just need two pins covered in the area this tape covers and if you don't cover them its no big deal the pins just might burn but nobody has seen any bad side effects thus far as i have heard.
 
That isn't copper stickers, that kapton tape, insulator. Essentially they are "blocking" a number of pins to trick the system. Good if it works




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8 generation 6 core CPU insulation stick protection Shu Bao high temperature no residue adhesive i5 8400 8500 8600 i7 8700
 
naib said:
That isn't copper stickers, that kapton tape, insulator. Essentially they are "blocking" a number of pins to trick the system. Good if it works




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8 generation 6 core CPU insulation stick protection Shu Bao high temperature no residue adhesive i5 8400 8500 8600 i7 8700
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Updated. You are correct, it is translucent. Totally missed that.
 
Damn I wish I still had that ASUS z170 itx board that I found at a garage sale for $15. Would like to give this mod a spin.
 
DTN107 said:
Damn I wish I still had that ASUS z170 itx board that I found at a garage sale for $15. Would like to give this mod a spin.
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Luckily I have a spare z170 board, and I work at a PC shop with ample access to 8700Ks....
 
pretty fk sad when "others" are able to do what Intel should have "allowed" and did not as well as claiming "impossible"

thin dies, poor thermal interface material selections, I guess Nv is not the only complete douches out there ^.^

Wonder how long before Intel figure as "way around this" sort of speak, lawsuits, bios lock or whatever?

stick it to that big blue gorilla O.O
 
DukenukemX said:
That looks like the BSEL mod I used to overclock my Q6600 that I still have.

That's also what I'd like to know.
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This allows Coffee Lake CPUs (Core 8000 series) to be used on Z170 and Z270 based mainboards.
 
I have several rolls, though none that small, of Kap tape leftover from my years with NASA and the Shuttle. Makes great outdoor fly tape strips too.
 
dragonstongue said:
pretty fk sad when "others" are able to do what Intel should have "allowed" and did not as well as claiming "impossible"

thin dies, poor thermal interface material selections, I guess Nv is not the only complete douches out there ^.^

Wonder how long before Intel figure as "way around this" sort of speak, lawsuits, bios lock or whatever?

stick it to that big blue gorilla O.O
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well the issue is and there are technical issues they just mostly happen to be minor on *most* make motherboards and that is that motherboard makers made use of RSVD pins on Z170/270 boards that CFL uses for more power input mostly. turns out on the vast majority (basically everyone but gigabyte) the consequence is small and not damaging other than maybe a burned pin or two but gigabyte apparently took it upon themselves to wire up a bunch of other RSVD pins to the power delivery unlike other makers and if you insert a CFL into them without taping over said pins, instantly fried motherboard VRM on power up. people pioneering these bios mods have discovered this by accident.
 
Methadras said:
What does this do?
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DukenukemX said:
That looks like the BSEL mod I used to overclock my Q6600 that I still have.

That's also what I'd like to know.
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this alone does nothing but cover up a large amount of rsvd pins on prior to CFL motherboards, taping over those pins alone will not do anything.

for most z170/270 motherboards what is required to get CFL running on them is to modify the bios, the most successful methods have been via taking a near identical Z370 board bios and simply replacing its intel management engine regions as well as some other related bits and replacing them with older versions then flashing the bios to the board via SPI interface (NOT the way its normally done, requires an external computer and a SPI programmer connected to the BIOS IC) and after that you simply just need to follow this pic for pin mods on the CPU depending on if its a quad core or a hexacore, hexacores require the shorting of two pins as the pic shows on *most* motherboards but not all!

coffee_lake_cpu_in_z170_or_z270_socket_-_how_to_connect_and_disable_pins_preview.jpg
 
Frito11 said:
this alone does nothing but cover up a large amount of rsvd pins on prior to CFL motherboards, taping over those pins alone will not do anything.

for most z170/270 motherboards what is required to get CFL running on them is to modify the bios, the most successful methods have been via taking a near identical Z370 board bios and simply replacing its intel management engine regions as well as some other related bits and replacing them with older versions then flashing the bios to the board via SPI interface (NOT the way its normally done, requires an external computer and a SPI programmer connected to the BIOS IC) and after that you simply just need to follow this pic for pin mods on the CPU depending on if its a quad core or a hexacore, hexacores require the shorting of two pins as the pic shows on *most* motherboards but not all!
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Easy peasy lemon squeezy
 
DukenukemX said:
Seriously? Man those Intel guys better have a good explanation for this.
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They will mention that they forgot to mention it was possible I'm sure.

Besides that i wouldn't expect much more than a few former intel employees collecting unemployment for not doing a better job of obsoleting last years chipset.

We're heading into a dark era in pc building! Almost as bad as fake l2 cache socket 3 boards.
 
HeadRusch said:
Remember that time you were just a neophyte builder and you totally turned the power on your in-process build only to watch your Thunderbird go up before your eyes in smoke within 4 seconds of power-on because you, like a complete dumbass, didn't have the HSF on...…...cuz I sure as shit do. On that day, the blue smoke escaped....
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I actually did this with a 1Ghz tbird many years ago :p on my very first build.
 
I let the blue smoke out on a third by having the HSF on backwards. Apparently I already borked it at that point.
 
im suprised this was not already out for us [H]ard users to use.

I'm sure people here knew how to do the shorting and whatever else you need to get the CPU to not fry itself. Then all you need is a call any programmers who want to hack BIOS chips and someone else to trial and error a working method.

Is the BIOS thing really hard to do?
 
So hang on, would this mean I could put a 8700 in the spare Z270 (Maximus IX Apex) I have sitting under my desk.
 
DukenukemX said:
Seriously? Man those Intel guys better have a good explanation for this.
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Yeah, they want you to buy a new motherboard so you can pad their pockets. I've been preaching this in the Intel subsection for 8 months. Got two bans for arguing with the Intel Defense Force. All because I thought that my 4 month old Z270 board should support a new processor. Fuck Intel.
 
Nookie420 said:
I actually did this with a 1Ghz tbird many years ago :p on my very first build.
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As did I. I shorted the leads to my motherboard to turn the power supply on to test a fan (Vornado, you could hear it three blocks away) before I realized I'd test-seated the chip...….a slight sizzle sound, some whisps of smoke and yeah.....time to go shopping again. #PotatoHead.
 
Mode13 said:
They will mention that they forgot to mention it was possible I'm sure.

Besides that i wouldn't expect much more than a few former intel employees collecting unemployment for not doing a better job of obsoleting last years chipset.

We're heading into a dark era in pc building! Almost as bad as fake l2 cache socket 3 boards.
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The problem is that we've allowed both AMD and Intel to make their own chipsets without allowing third parties. There's no Ali, no Via, no Nvidia, no SIS chipsets. Just AMD an Intel with respect to their own CPUs. This wasn't a thing before, and it really shouldn't be a thing now when none of the chipsets for years have a memory controller on them, which I would imagine would be the bulk of the R&D spent on making them.
 
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So does this allow the full 6C/12T or will it run 4C/8T? This is tempting as I have a leftover Z170 board!
 
schlitzbull said:
So does this allow the full 6C/12T or will it run 4C/8T? This is tempting as I have a leftover Z170 board!
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I'm very interested to know this too. It sounds like you will need some type of hacked bios too
 
Kor said:
I had a friend who soldered the bridges on his TBird, proper hardcore.
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That's what I did with mine. You could literally bridge the gap with solder given the right temperatures and some flux. Back then, I had a nice station because I was previously "modding" playstations for a friend that was selling them on the blackmarket. Some of the early mods required some SMD jumpers.

Also, a lot of people used window defrost repair kits...
 
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