Steam Hardware Survey updated with GPUs

Looking at the numbers...AMD fans make far too much noise compared to their market-share...
 
the only reason nvidia is taking over for steam is because the AMD cards are being used for mining. im going to keep using my rx 470 till i have not more use from it.
 
the only reason nvidia is taking over for steam is because the AMD cards are being used for mining. im going to keep using my rx 470 till i have not more use from it.

Cannot tell if you are being serious or sarcastic. You do realize people also use Nvidia for mining as well, people was buying boatloads of Nvidia cards.
 
the only reason nvidia is taking over for steam is because the AMD cards are being used for mining. im going to keep using my rx 470 till i have not more use from it.

I'd argue it has more to do with, well, NVidia having a larger market share.
 
Cannot tell if you are being serious or sarcastic. You do realize people also use Nvidia for mining as well, people was buying boatloads of Nvidia cards.

However thanks to EVGA or Nvidia site itself a boatload of people also bought GPUs for gaming, also Nvidia produces way more GPUs than AMD so even if lot of those GPUS were bought for mining lot of those also took place to gaming machines, also we have to take in consideration that Nvidia have a more large worldwide market where prices aren't so affected as it is in the USA.
 
However thanks to EVGA or Nvidia site itself a boatload of people also bought GPUs for gaming, also Nvidia produces way more GPUs than AMD so even if lot of those GPUS were bought for mining lot of those also took place to gaming machines, also we have to take in consideration that Nvidia have a more large worldwide market where prices aren't so affected as it is in the USA.

This whole people only bought AMD cards for mining is starting to become like a gorilla marketing campaign around here. That is just ridiculous as AMD cards game just fine as well, Nvidia just has the fastest card. Plenty of people bought Nvidia cards for just mining but I am also certain many bought them for gaming. Feels like some are trying to pass the idea on that AMD is only for mining and that Nvidia is for gaming and Nvidia is trying hard for gamers, when in reality both companies dont give a shit who buys the cards and plenty of miners stalked those sites and bought cards that way as well.
 
Cannot tell if you are being serious or sarcastic. You do realize people also use Nvidia for mining as well, people was buying boatloads of Nvidia cards.
nvidia cards where the only thing left for people to buy. which is why they are mosly being used for gaming.
 
From Oculus, their hardware data.

The Hardware Report is a snapshot of all devices running Oculus software over the last 28 days as of March 17th, 2018. Updated daily, this information can help guide and prioritize your business and development decisions, in particular those related to device and language support.

GPU: 92.2% Nvidia, 7.8% AMD
CPU: 89.1% Intel, 10.9% AMD

March:

CPU:
Intel 88.6% (-2.05%)
AMD 11.4% (+2.06%)

GPU:
Nvidia 82.3%
AMD 10.8%
Intel 6.8%

From Oculus, their hardware data as of April 30th, from the last 28 days.
GPU: 92.4% Nvidia, 7.6% AMD
CPU: 88.8% Intel, 11.2% AMD

April:
CPU:
Intel 84.0% (-4.82%)
AMD 16.0% (+4.81%)

GPU:
Nvidia 75.3%
AMD 14.9%
Intel 9.7%

Interestingly, in Language, Steam reports a drop of -21.89% of Simplified Chinese down to 30.35%, and Windows 10 gained +17.41% to 53.10% while Windows 7 dropped to 36.15%, a decrease of -20.90%.

Not sure how to explain the drop in Chinese computers, PUBG should be going strong in China still (I think), and Steam is still required to play it in China. Windows 7 is continuing to drop drastically, perhaps motivated by the release of Sea of Thieves, a Windows 10 exclusive.
 
It might be a consequence of the Great FireWall of China in operation.

A great deal of Chinese gaming is typically done at an internet cafe from what I understand. Maybe a bunch of those got upgraded, moved, or no longer run PUBG so there are less reasons for Steam to be installed on the system.
 
A great deal of Chinese gaming is typically done at an internet cafe from what I understand. Maybe a bunch of those got upgraded, moved, or no longer run PUBG so there are less reasons for Steam to be installed on the system.

I don't see why internet cafes would be removing PUBG from their offered games. I don't think it's popularity is in any type of decline in China.
 
I don't see why internet cafes would be removing PUBG from their offered games. I don't think it's popularity is in any type of decline in China.

Fortnite? What if they dedicated 30% of their PCs to that game?

Really I have no idea. :)
 
True but what if a customer was caught cheating? How does a a group license for a game work? They just had a crackdown on cheaters in China. Maybe the internet cafe didn't buy a group license. How many pubg licenses are they willing to purchase before they switch to a free game on that PC?
 
True but what if a customer was caught cheating? How does a a group license for a game work? They just had a crackdown on cheaters in China. Maybe the internet cafe didn't buy a group license. How many pubg licenses are they willing to purchase before they switch to a free game on that PC?

Dell advertised better support for "plugins" on their new laptops in China. With that said, you do have a point.

Also apparently Fortnite Mobile was launched recently in China but I still dunno if that could explain the sudden fall in Chinese language installs.
 
Dell advertised better support for "plugins" on their new laptops in China. With that said, you do have a point.

Also apparently Fortnite Mobile was launched recently in China but I still dunno if that could explain the sudden fall in Chinese language installs.
Free version you said? The Android version is free. Single handed keyboard, a mouse and a microUSB hub will do. And this setup is quite popular in China.
 
STEAM HARDWARE SURVEY FIX – 5/2/2018
The latest Steam Hardware Survey incorporates a number of fixes that address over counting of cyber cafe customers that occurred during the prior seven months.

Historically, the survey used a client-side method to ensure that systems were counted only once per year, in order to provide an accurate picture of the entire Steam user population. It turns out, however, that many cyber cafes manage their hardware in a way that was causing their customers to be over counted.

Around August 2017, we started seeing larger-than-usual movement in certain stats, notably an increase in Windows 7 usage, an increase in quad-core CPU usage, as well as changes in CPU and GPU market share. This period also saw a large increase in the use of Simplified Chinese. All of these coincided with an increase in Steam usage in cyber cafes in Asia, whose customers were being over counted in the survey.

It took us some time to root-cause the problem and deploy a fix, but we are confident that, as of April 2018, the Steam Hardware Survey is no longer over counting users.
 

Yeah, the Windows 7 and Windows 10 numbers in particular just all of sudden flipped in one month and that just didn't seem possible in only one month. Windows 10 is now again showing the leading market share in this survey at 53.10% and 7 well behind at 36.15%.
 
Yeah, the Windows 7 and Windows 10 numbers in particular just all of sudden flipped in one month and that just didn't seem possible in only one month. Windows 10 is now again showing the leading market share in this survey at 53.10% and 7 well behind at 36.15%.

It's because the share of computers reported from mainland China, which is massively win7 (china's share is down 22% language, win7 is down 21% in OS this month) continued its nosedive this month. If you use archive.org to look at historical data, the stalling of W10's growth followed by W7's massive surge in the Steam charts tracks the increase of 'Simplified Chinese' (the version used on the mainland, Taiwan primarily uses 'Traditional Chinese' instead).
 
It's because the share of computers reported from mainland China, which is massively win7 (china's share is down 22% language, win7 is down 21% in OS this month) continued its nosedive this month. If you use archive.org to look at historical data, the stalling of W10's growth followed by W7's massive surge in the Steam charts tracks the increase of 'Simplified Chinese' (the version used on the mainland, Taiwan primarily uses 'Traditional Chinese' instead).

Agreed but apparently Chinese users were overcounted because of this bug. It just didn't make a lot of sense that in one month there'd be this huge swing in Windows 10 and 7 numbers to then be followed another series of large monthly swings the other way.
 
Agreed but apparently Chinese users were overcounted because of this bug. It just didn't make a lot of sense that in one month there'd be this huge swing in Windows 10 and 7 numbers to then be followed another series of large monthly swings the other way.

Do you have anything approaching an authoritative source for it being a bug or just a general feeling that it's too big a swing?

It swung up just as fast last fall when PUBG exploded in popularity and wasn't available locally forcing Chinese gamers to use steam instead of their normal sources. Combined with the size of China's population I don't see anything intrinsically impossible with that many new Chinese users skewing the totals, or with the number of them playing on Steam now winding down equally rapidly in the last 2 monthly updates following a local release in March.
 
From Oculus, their hardware data as of April 30th, from the last 28 days.
GPU: 92.4% Nvidia, 7.6% AMD
CPU: 88.8% Intel, 11.2% AMD

April:
CPU:
Intel 84.0% (-4.82%)
AMD 16.0% (+4.81%)

GPU:
Nvidia 75.3%
AMD 14.9%
Intel 9.7%

Interestingly, in Language, Steam reports a drop of -21.89% of Simplified Chinese down to 30.35%, and Windows 10 gained +17.41% to 53.10% while Windows 7 dropped to 36.15%, a decrease of -20.90%.

Not sure how to explain the drop in Chinese computers, PUBG should be going strong in China still (I think), and Steam is still required to play it in China. Windows 7 is continuing to drop drastically, perhaps motivated by the release of Sea of Thieves, a Windows 10 exclusive.

New month, new data.

From Oculus, their hardware data as of May 31th, from the last 28 days.
GPU: 92.4% Nvidia, 7.6% AMD
CPU: 88.6% Intel, 11.4% AMD

May:
CPU:
Intel 83.7% (-0.41%)
AMD 16.3% (+0.37%)

GPU:
Nvidia 74.5%
AMD 15.2%
Intel 10.1%
 
Not sure what to think. So Steam has been overcounting because of Asian cybercafes.

As a result, we see that more people actually use Intel GPUs? I'm sorry but I'm having a WTF moment about the NA/EU audience.
 
Not sure what to think. So Steam has been overcounting because of Asian cybercafes.

As a result, we see that more people actually use Intel GPUs? I'm sorry but I'm having a WTF moment about the NA/EU audience.

As long as you're willing to accept low quality settings you can game on an Intel IGP. Alternately, there're plenty of lower budget games that an IGP can run just fine.

On a desktop doing so doesn't make much sense since even an SFF build can hold a compact 1050/1060 class card.

On laptops there's no easy way to add a better GPU, and gaming laptops have significant weight/portability/battery life penalties. As a result there're a lot of people who do >95% of our gaming (probably 98-99% in my case) on a desktop; but just have a non-gaming laptop that we use for gaming occasionally when away from home.
 
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As long as you're willing to accept low quality settings you can game on an Intel IGP. Alternately, there're plenty of lower budget games that an IGP can run just fine.

On a desktop doing so doesn't make much sense since even an SFF build can hold a compact 1050/1060 class card.

On laptops there's no easy way to add a better GPU, and gaming laptops have significant weight/portability/battery life penalties. As a result there're a lot of people who do >95% of our gaming (probably 98-99% in my case) on a desktop; but just have a non-gaming laptop that we use for gaming occasionally when away from home.


Yeah I do the same. I have like 3 or 4 core games that work on my laptop when away from home, but 95% of my gaming is on my home PC
 
Love to see the main screen res used. My guess is that it is still 1080p. PC gamers got stuck on 1080p and even allowed consumer TV's to pass them. lol!!! I remember the days when PC screen res was always more than TV resolutions, not anymore.
 
Love to see the main screen res used. My guess is that it is still 1080p. PC gamers got stuck on 1080p and even allowed consumer TV's to pass them. lol!!! I remember the days when PC screen res was always more than TV resolutions, not anymore.

1080p is affordable for the masses for playing games and what not, 4K is pointless unless you have a huge monitor otherwise you just wont notice the difference. 1080p will remain the standard for quite some time as well for the mainstream.
 
1080p is affordable for the masses for playing games and what not, 4K is pointless unless you have a huge monitor otherwise you just wont notice the difference. 1080p will remain the standard for quite some time as well for the mainstream.
27" 4K and I notice a huge difference between 1440p and 4K. This is probably more dependent on individual eyesight, I am nearsighted and see well there, far away not so good.
 
27" 4K and I notice a huge difference between 1440p and 4K. This is probably more dependent on individual eyesight, I am nearsighted and see well there, far away not so good.

I've got pretty good all around eyesight and could immediately tell the difference between 30" 1600 and 32" 4k. Even at 100 DPI I can't quite see individual pixels, but the bump to 140 was immediately obvious in general use due to sharper text, and in gaming due to more detail on textures.
 
I wish they'd break out info by region. It's nice to have the worldwide numbers, but it'd also be nice to have a North America number. Perhaps some check boxes allowing you to narrow the results for given areas. Then again, most people probably don't care that much...I just htink it'd be interesting to see how the results vary by country (US, UK, CA etc) and/or region (North America, EU, South America China entire world). I'm sure they already have this data
 
New month, new data.

From Oculus, their hardware data as of May 31th, from the last 28 days.
GPU: 92.4% Nvidia, 7.6% AMD
CPU: 88.6% Intel, 11.4% AMD

May:
CPU:
Intel 83.7% (-0.41%)
AMD 16.3% (+0.37%)

GPU:
Nvidia 74.5%
AMD 15.2%
Intel 10.1%

June Data is in:

From Oculus, their hardware data as of July 3rd, from the last 28 days.
GPU: 92.4% Nvidia, 7.6% AMD
CPU: 88.3% Intel, 11.7% AMD

June:
CPU:
Intel 83.8% (+0.11%)
AMD 16.2% (-0.11%)

GPU:
Nvidia 74.3%
AMD 15.1%
Intel 10.4%
 
June Data is in:

From Oculus, their hardware data as of July 3rd, from the last 28 days.
GPU: 92.4% Nvidia, 7.6% AMD
CPU: 88.3% Intel, 11.7% AMD

June:
CPU:
Intel 83.8% (+0.11%)
AMD 16.2% (-0.11%)

GPU:
Nvidia 74.3%
AMD 15.1%
Intel 10.4%

I got bored.

From Oculus, their hardware data as of Nov 23rd, from the last 28 days.
GPU: 92.8% Nvidia, 7.2% AMD
CPU: 87.2% Intel, 12.8% AMD

October:
CPU:
Intel 84.2%
AMD 15.8%

GPU:
Nvidia 76.6%
AMD 13.9%
Intel 9.3%
 
Notice that the percentage of systems with 4 cores or lower is around 90%. So it is logical to assume game devs will keep on targeting quad core in games. Pretty small number of potential customers if your game runs way better on 6, 8, or more core cpu's.
 
I got bored.

From Oculus, their hardware data as of Nov 23rd, from the last 28 days.
GPU: 92.8% Nvidia, 7.2% AMD
CPU: 87.2% Intel, 12.8% AMD

October:
CPU:
Intel 84.2%
AMD 15.8%

GPU:
Nvidia 76.6%
AMD 13.9%
Intel 9.3%

End of the year, some big sales in the computer market, lets see how the holidays are shaping up for our 3 gpu/cpu competitors according to Steam and Oculus?

From Oculus, their hardware data as of Dec 16, from the last 28 days.
GPU: 92.7% Nvidia, 7.3% AMD
CPU: 86.6% Intel, 13.4% AMD

Special note, Ryzen makes a appearance on Oculus's Top 15 CPUs with the Ryzen 5 1600 at 1.7%. Also note 6 cores at 23.4% of the market, looks like Intel's new products are paving the way for 4+ cores finally. (Im an amd fanboy, plz no flame, im making a joke)
GPU side, AMD shows up with the 580 and 480 with 2.2 and 1.8% respectfully. Also, rip Windows 7 as among the VR crowd, Windows 10 becomes the clear successor.

November:
CPU:
Intel 82.5%
AMD 17.5%

GPU:
Nvidia 74.1%
AMD 15.2%
Intel 10.5%
Other 0.2% (Duh fuck)

Happy Holidays [H]. May the new year bring you more money to spend on your favorite hobbies.
 
OK, I'm going to stop lurking to second 'Duh F*&%' on .2% other GPU. What the heck could that even be?
 
OK, I'm going to stop lurking to second 'Duh F*&%' on .2% other GPU. What the heck could that even be?
Gotta be some arm gpus, mobile or nuc. Could also be some really old sis/via chips or 3dfx, etc mixed in from people's old game boxen.
 
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