Windows 10 April 2018 Update Changed My Settings

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Changed them in a major way. WTF??!!
I had updates turned off and it still kept asking to update. Even though it still did an update overnight. Even deleted my wallpaper. Not changed, DELETED!
Why do companies feel compelled to break things that are working fine and piss off its customer base?
Now I will have to spend hours getting everything set back to a usable state. If I can.
 
Hofy said:
Changed them in a major way. WTF??!!
I had updates turned off and it still kept asking to update. Even though it still did an update overnight. Even deleted my wallpaper. Not changed, DELETED!
Why do companies feel compelled to break things that are working fine and piss off its customer base?
Now I will have to spend hours getting everything set back to a usable state. If I can.
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Which version of Windows 10? Home or Pro?
 
There are far better OSes than windows if you want to customize your environment...
 
Hofy said:
Changed them in a major way. WTF??!!
I had updates turned off and it still kept asking to update. Even though it still did an update overnight. Even deleted my wallpaper. Not changed, DELETED!
Why do companies feel compelled to break things that are working fine and piss off its customer base?
Now I will have to spend hours getting everything set back to a usable state. If I can.
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Don't worry, one of the resident MS shills that monitor the board 24/7 for valid W10 criticisms will be along any moment to tell you either:

A) It "didn't happen top them" and therefore "you must have done something" and it's your fault.
B) Microsoft continually resetting everything back to MS defaults in every featureless, full-reinstall seasonal update, hijacking your browser back to Edge, etc is good for you and you should "Just embrace it".
C) Something-something inking, 2-in-1's and Linux doesn't have as many games as Windows.

I used to think it was technical ineptitude behind Microsoft moving from the delta updating of the service pack days and now masquerading these seasonal full-re-installs as an "update". But their metagame is clearly to beat users into submission, by creating the illusion that there's still "choice" but then continually erasing that choice, that users eventually get tired of all the tweaking after every update and finally just give up and let MS's defaults wash over them.
 
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Hofy said:
Changed them in a major way. WTF??!!
I had updates turned off and it still kept asking to update. Even though it still did an update overnight. Even deleted my wallpaper. Not changed, DELETED!
Why do companies feel compelled to break things that are working fine and piss off its customer base?
Now I will have to spend hours getting everything set back to a usable state. If I can.
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did you try rebooting a couple times? I had a laptop that loaded into a temp user account after the update but I rebooted a couple times and everything went back to normal.
 
DPI said:
A) It "didn't happen top them" and therefore "you must have done something" and it's your fault.
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Don't be so dramatic. Tons of people use Windows 10 constantly and have done dozens of feature updates just on their own devices. Yeah, deleting the wallpaper? That can't be very common. Were any of your other files deleted?
 
I've seen the background deletion before. When windows detects it is not genuine it will delete the currently active background image. Perhaps during the update it re-activated itself, and for a minute it detected itself as not genuine.

BTW at this stage I'd be more surprised if an update didn't change any settings.
 
Why doesn't it just delete itself when it detects falsely it's not genuine. Would save so much trouble for so many.
 
I got upgraded to Windows 10 1803 and lost a few apps. It did this automatically overnight and messed some things up. This is starting to be the norm.

At work I am in charge of all software/patch deployments and even keeping our windows environment updated.

IF you can live without... Cortana/Edge/Windows Store and some other things.. lookup Windows 10 Enterprise 2016 LTSB. That is what were using as a company standard and we do get vendor machines that we have to do "FU's" on but the LTSB does not. Good for 10 years of service without the need for updates.

I just run Win10 pro at home and deal with the punches as they come...
 
Hofy said:
Windows 10 Pro.

Pisses me off that all file associations are now changed too.
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It sounds like your user account may have gotten screwed up? Are you sure you're logged into your account or a guest account? Were you using a local account or the MS account? Are you selecting the right account type on the login screen? Just some thoughts.
 
TeleFragger said:
if you mean patches... your correct but these 1607 to 1703 to 1709 to 1803 updates do not exist...



http://www.techproresearch.com/article/is-the-windows-10-long-term-servicing-branch-right-for-you/
Each LTSB release receives standard monthly security and reliability updates for an extended 10-year support period. No new features are added over its servicing lifetime.
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and to elaborate more on this.. we had a vendor today kinda gripe on LTSB and our Microsoft team were working with is on the thread.. one of them replied...
so putting here for those that don't know and want to look into it...

Win 10 LTSB, like all our OS’s, get monthly updates. For LTSB, these are security updates (10 years), but also bug fixes (5 years). No new features are introduced to the LTSB version throughout its 10 year support lifecycle. The SAC (semi-annual channel), unlike LTSB, provides new Feature Updates twice a year. A single version of SAC is also only supported for 18 months. Past that, Microsoft ceases to provides monthly security updates for a SAC. It’s highly recommended to move to a supported SAC, so that the device remains updated against the latest security issues. Your applications should be tested against new SACs to validate that new Feature Updates don’t cause an issue.


Most OEMs making purpose-specific devices (medical devices, ATMs, POS, casino gaming, etc) choose the LTSB servicing model as it provides a stable platform and simplifies testing and validation over a long period of time.
 
Chuklr said:
It sounds like your user account may have gotten screwed up? Are you sure you're logged into your account or a guest account? Were you using a local account or the MS account? Are you selecting the right account type on the login screen? Just some thoughts.
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Nope. Only one account and it is a local account.
 
pendragon1 said:
and how does a normal consumer get the LTSB version?
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eBay, Reddit, Craigslist, Hard Forum For Sale / Trade...

GoldenTiger said:
They don't, not legally at least.
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I don't think that's the case. I wrote this in another thread:

You sure that people can't buy LTSB legally from unofficial license resellers? Remember EULA are not laws, and they're filled with illegitimate BS that is non-enforceable. The European Union's highest court ruled that software licenses are personal property and a person who owns a software license is fully entitled to resell them per their sole discretion.

That would mean that anybody with an LTSB license is lawfully entitled to sell them - which would imply that anybody wanting to buy one could do so from someone selling theirs.

Also, there are LTSB licenses for sale on eBay. If they were illegal to sell or buy, those would be removed.


I think Microsoft claims or tries to suggest that its LTSB licenses cannot be resold, but that's just corporate PR that holds no legal bearing - especially not in Europe.
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What I meant by illegal wasn't criminality, but civil. It isn't a licensed legitimate copy if you aren't going by the eula. Just lok pirating a game isn't legal, the punishment is only done civily.
 
Anyone running a corporate licence copy of windows on a home PC is subject to having their licence terminated at any point because no its not legal.

Unless your volunteering to be a very expensive test case in court, and are planning to buy from shady source, install, call MS and inform them your not with the corp client that license was sold to.... and then willing to spend a ton of money and years in court fighting to get your licence turned back on.

Hey you might win and prove to all that that evil EULA isn't worth the ones and zeros it was typed with. lol

Frankly no corporate copies of windows are not a good solution for anyones windows 10 issues... might as well just torrent it, all your doing buying a corp licence from anyone other then MS direct, is paying someone for your warez.

Windows 10 Enterprise is only sold as an upgrade... meaning you have to also have a copy of Windows 10 pro. Really I don't see how anyone wiggles their way out of the enterprise EULA.

I don't know imo if your warezing windows... just stop what your doing... find yourself a decent Distro and break free of the sillyness.
 
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Just buy a single seat license from a legit Microsoft reseller. I have access to key through work but we don’t allow it to be installed on any personal hardware. Our Microsoft reseller who we went through for our office 365 licensing can sell me a single seat key that is my own legally owned key. Just because there is no way to get one through retail doesn’t mean there is no legal way.
 
AltTabbins said:
Just buy a single seat license from a legit Microsoft reseller. I have access to key through work but we don’t allow it to be installed on any personal hardware. Our Microsoft reseller who we went through for our office 365 licensing can sell me a single seat key that is my own legally owned key. Just because there is no way to get one through retail doesn’t mean there is no legal way.
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I get the feeling that is not the general advice people have been getting in this thread. :)

Yes by all means if you can pickup a legit single user Enterprise licence go for it. (for the record I was under the impression that MS min for legit Enterprise was 5 unless your talking about yearly sub sales attached to things like Visual Studio ect... but perhaps I'm wrong, can't say I have much MS lit around :))Out of curiosity... how much did the single user Enterprise licence cost you, (if you don't mind the asking) and I am assuming you also had to have a Win 10 Pro licence as well (or has that changed).
 
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GoldenTiger said:
They don't, not legally at least. Gotta love people boasting about their Warez.
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if that's directed to me.... nope I'm not boasting about Warez... we have it installed on 250+ laboratory computers and we have about 4000 more to go!!!!!
Microsoft is working with us and has agreed that it is the best solution for us...

me personally.. Ill take Pro and deal with the upgrades cuz I like all the addons, etc...
 
Edit: Not sure if I am allowed to talk about our pricing. If you do some googling there are some UK based resellers who are open about their pricing. Its not cheap for a non-yearly license but the few I have found are close to what I paid.
 
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I can run whatever version of Windows I wish with zero worry because I'm not dependent on windows like many of you poor folks out there. When will you wake up and understand that by limiting yourself to only one OS you're in fact being enslaved by Microsoft.
 
B00nie said:
I can run whatever version of Windows I wish with zero worry because I'm not dependent on windows like many of you poor folks out there. When will you wake up and understand that by limiting yourself to only one OS you're in fact being enslaved by Microsoft.
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so are the people limiting themselves to Linux also being enslaved?
 
ChadD said:
Anyone running a corporate licence copy of windows on a home PC is subject to having their licence terminated at any point because no its not legal.

Unless your volunteering to be a very expensive test case in court, and are planning to buy from shady source, install, call MS and inform them your not with the corp client that license was sold to.... and then willing to spend a ton of money and years in court fighting to get your licence turned back on.

Hey you might win and prove to all that that evil EULA isn't worth the ones and zeros it was typed with. lol
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This is all extreme hysteria. Not only because there is nothing backing up the idea that it's illegal, but also because why would a person spend money in a legal battle to get their license turned back on when they can buy another license for $25 or so?

By the way, I've told MS support I'm running an Enterprise edition of Win 10 I bought from a reseller multiple times. The only thing it means is you can't get personal support from MS because support for Enterprise is only offered through their Enterprise portal, which you need to have a business registered with Microsoft to access.

Frankly no corporate copies of windows are not a good solution for anyones windows 10 issues... might as well just torrent it, all your doing buying a corp licence from anyone other then MS direct, is paying someone for your warez.
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How so? Enterprise in regular Win 10 Pro with some more control and options, no ads, and some reduced accessory software. How would a person who doesn't use or want any of the accessory software or the ads be inconvenienced by Enterprise? They only stand to benefit from the increased control and options.

Windows 10 Enterprise is only sold as an upgrade... meaning you have to also have a copy of Windows 10 pro.
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This is not true. An Enterprise license is a stand-alone license that installs directly from an Enterprise installer. There is no upgrade from Win 10 Pro to Enterprise. The only upgrade path that I'm aware of is from Win 10 Home to Pro.
 
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^ Enterprise does seem to be the new Pro, sadly. Unfortunately even in Enterprise there's no way to turn telemetry completely OFF.
 
DPI said:
^ Enterprise does seem to be the new Pro, sadly. Unfortunately even in Enterprise there's no way to turn telemetry completely OFF.
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In another thread somebody said that having LTSB would be like having Windows 7 pre-SP1 without ever being able to install SP1. But LTSB is actually exactly like having Windows 7 SP1, with the year being 2011. LTSB operates exactly like Windows 7 SP1 does in being feature complete and very stable, while receiving all future bug-fixes and security updates, but no new features. Having Windows 7 SP1 would mean clear skies and calm water to sail through for the next many, many years. And that's exactly what LTSB is. It's the Windows 7 version of Windows 10.
 
a normal consumer cant get win10 LGBT, it meant for things like medical machines. so leave it out of any argument.
B00nie said:
I can run whatever version of Windows I wish with zero worry because I'm not dependent on windows like many of you poor folks out there. When will you wake up and understand that by limiting yourself to only one OS you're in fact being enslaved by Microsoft.
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just like a person can choose to use one OS to keep things simple and unified. its personal choice, stop trying to ram yours down our throats! raaaaaape!!
 
pendragon1 said:
a normal consumer cant get win10 LGBT, it meant for things like medical machines. so leave it out of any argument.
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Why cant they? Just because they can't buy one through retail sources like newegg or amazon, doesn't mean they aren't available. Find your favorite microsoft authorized distributor and ask for a single seat price. Don't want to do that? Find one from a reputable UK where the licensing agreements are very different than ours.
 
pendragon1 said:
a normal consumer cant get win10 LGBT, it meant for things like medical machines. so leave it out of any argument.
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Sure they can. It's for sale all over the place, just like Enterprise licenses, or Pro licenses are. What it is, is the full Windows 10 without accessory apps like Microsoft Store, Weather, Edge... and with increased control over telemetry, and without feature updates. It's meant for anyone that wants a consistent, stable, private, peaceful, and personal OS.

I get that people suggesting as you are are probably primarily either:

1. Employed by Microsoft to push and encourage Microsoft propaganda in online forums, as I think at least a few at H Forum are here to do

2. People who want to keep the word about the better Windows editions a secret so as to not risk spoiling things for themselves


But then there's the truth, and there's what's good, and Microsoft doesn't show an inclination towards either of those things, and would surely love the actual opinions of Windows customers and owners to be kept quiet so that there's never any pressure on Microsoft to do better. But I say f that. There is a discussion that is needed to be had, and the new European privacy and data laws barely address the tip of the iceberg of all the wrong that Microsoft and other tech giants are currently doing.

Microsoft wouldn't give the slightest sh** which version of Windows people use if they weren't making money off of collecting personal data from certain versions. All the 'that version's not meant for the average person' talk is really all about guiding people away from the versions which don't collect telemetry and which don't have Microsoft's services integrated, and towards the versions which collect the most telemetry and have all the monetized services integrated. The argument about a version not being suitable is based in the goal of making Microsoft more money, and doesn't actually regard which is genuinely suitable for various people.


heatlesssun said:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...ating-system-components-to-microsoft-services
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Even that doesn't seem to be entirely comprehensive - otherwise it probably wouldn't be described as only "to help prevent Windows from sending any data to Microsoft". And that is a ton of work to do, with all that work probably getting wiped out by the next bi-annual large update.
 
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