PlayStation Sales Double Xbox One’s in 2018, according to EA Data

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Numbers released by EA chief financial officer Blake Jorgensen suggest that Microsoft sold about 30 million Xbox One consoles by the end of 2017, which is less than half of what Sony managed with the PlayStation 4 (73 million). Redmond issued a swift response, calling the data “inaccurate.”

“The projections are inaccurate,” a spokesperson told Variety. “Regardless, we are focused on delivering amazing gaming experiences to players on all devices and engagement is our measure of progress. We just announced a record start to the year with Xbox Live monthly active users up 13% to 59 million.”
 
The usual way to correct this would be to come up with the actual numbers of xboxes sold. All this marketingspeak and beating about the bush just focusses extra attention on the xbox sales obviously falling behind by a considerable margin.
 
this gen is sonys. xbone x and its backward compatibility is gaining traction but in Europe and the graveyard that is asia for xbox sony is way ahead. think with xbone they screwed up with kinect its the one reason xbox has not got a vr/ar set something with fuck all support is a dead duck
 
Not suprising. Microsoft already announced they were focusing on "engagement" instead of sales awhile back.

I don't have either atm, but I also feel like the PS4 got the better exclusives this time around. It's also the more powerful console, and if you look at recent history that seemingly helped the PS2/Xbox 360 as well.
 
brucethemoose said:
I don't have either atm, but I also feel like the PS4 got the better exclusives this time around. It's also the more powerful console, and if you look at recent history that seemingly helped the PS2/Xbox 360 as well.
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Well the Xbox One was less powerful and more expensive. The PS2 was the weakes console from it's generation if you don't count the Dreamcast, which I think the Dreamcast might have been better anyway. The GameCube was faster and the Xbox Original was faster. Technically the Xbox 360 wasn't the best selling console of its generation either, but the Wii. If fact the Wii sold as many machines as the PS3 and the 360 and it's technically an overclocked GameCube.

The Xbox One is suffering from the mistakes that Microsoft made before the console even launched. It cost more, thanks to the Kinect that nobody wanted. It was slower, as this was done to keep costs low cause they're including the Kinect and the stupid TV functionality that nobody wanted. They were planning to prevent used game sales, which nobody wanted. Halo fucking sucks now, which nobody wants anymore.

Microsoft has no choice but to wait for the next console cycle... if there's another console cycle.
 
DukenukemX said:
Well the Xbox One was less powerful and more expensive. The PS2 was the weakes console from it's generation if you don't count the Dreamcast, which I think the Dreamcast might have been better anyway. The GameCube was faster and the Xbox Original was faster. Technically the Xbox 360 wasn't the best selling console of its generation either, but the Wii. If fact the Wii sold as many machines as the PS3 and the 360 and it's technically an overclocked GameCube.

The Xbox One is suffering from the mistakes that Microsoft made before the console even launched. It cost more, thanks to the Kinect that nobody wanted. It was slower, as this was done to keep costs low cause they're including the Kinect and the stupid TV functionality that nobody wanted. They were planning to prevent used game sales, which nobody wanted. Halo fucking sucks now, which nobody wants anymore.

Microsoft has no choice but to wait for the next console cycle... if there's another console cycle.
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the PS2 had the distinction of being the cheapest dvd player on the market though.

derp: brain fart.
 
DukenukemX said:
Well the Xbox One was less powerful and more expensive. The PS2 was the weakes console from it's generation if you don't count the Dreamcast, which I think the Dreamcast might have been better anyway. The GameCube was faster and the Xbox Original was faster. Technically the Xbox 360 wasn't the best selling console of its generation either, but the Wii. If fact the Wii sold as many machines as the PS3 and the 360 and it's technically an overclocked GameCube.

The Xbox One is suffering from the mistakes that Microsoft made before the console even launched. It cost more, thanks to the Kinect that nobody wanted. It was slower, as this was done to keep costs low cause they're including the Kinect and the stupid TV functionality that nobody wanted. They were planning to prevent used game sales, which nobody wanted. Halo fucking sucks now, which nobody wants anymore.

Microsoft has no choice but to wait for the next console cycle... if there's another console cycle.
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Was the PS2 the weakest? My memory sucks, I just remember it having the better looking games.

Then again, I do remember that the PS3 was the most powerful console paper, but the 360 was easier to develop on. And I count the Wii as it's own separate thing, as the type of games that sold those consoles really diverged from the 360/PS3.

5150Joker said:
Or all those people could build a PC and walk away from shitty underpowered consoles.
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Consoles are good for the cost. You couldn't build a PC with a 7870 or 7950 for the same amount of money back then, and it wouldn't have aged quite as well.
 
you probably could if memory was cheaper, with an APU for 300-350$
AMD 2200G 90$ + hdd 40$ + mobo 40$ + psu 50$ + 8Go 50$ (normal price ) + case 30$ , maybe another 50$ to get mouse and keyboard and an xbox360 controller, and you would still run most recent games at high settings 720p, or medium to low at 1080p
 
Sony outsold 360 too, but I always wondered, if it wasn't for all the people buying new consoles due to RRoD, how much ahead would PS3 of been over 360?
 
alamox said:
you probably could if memory was cheaper, with an APU for 300-350$
AMD 2200G 90$ + hdd 40$ + mobo 40$ + psu 50$ + 8Go 50$ (normal price ) + case 30$ , maybe another 50$ to get mouse and keyboard and an xbox360 controller, and you would still run most recent games at high settings 720p, or medium to low at 1080p
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That’s a much slower GPU than a $400 PS4 Pro though.
 
alamox said:
yea and if you add the extra 100$ you can find 2nd hand GPU much faster than the ps4 pro 970-470 even 280X is much faster for like 60$
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It’s pretty close to a RX480 8GB card, which is much faster than a 280X.
 
Master_shake_ said:
the PS2 had the distinction of being the cheapest dvd player on the market though.

derp: brain fart.
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That didn't matter in the year 2000, or was that 1999 for Japan. Anyway, you're thinking of the PS3 which definitely had the cheapest Blu-Ray player. Sony won that console war because it was Sony. People back then would buy anything with the name Sony on it. If Sony made sneakers, people will kill you for it. Actually people killed for a PS2 the day of the launch. It was a screwed up time period.

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brucethemoose said:
Was the PS2 the weakest? My memory sucks, I just remember it having the better looking games.

Then again, I do remember that the PS3 was the most powerful console paper, but the 360 was easier to develop on. And I count the Wii as it's own separate thing, as the type of games that sold those consoles really diverged from the 360/PS3.
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Yea it was the weakest of the bunch, with the exception of the Dreamcast. The GameCube and Xbox were released after the PS2, which made sense they were more powerful.

In fact, most consoles that did well were the weakest. GameBoy vs GameGear, the GB won. Genesis vs SNES, the SNES won. And yes the SNES was weak and half the games sold had co-processors to help the 3Mhz cpu in the SNES. Saturn vs N64 vs PS1, the PS1.. won. The N64 was the most powerful, and the Saturn was too if you could program for it. Even during the 360 vs PS3 vs Wii era, the Wii won, and like I said it's an overclocked GameCube. Hence why the Dolphin emulator had no problem immediately emulating the WIi on the day it was released. The PS3 is the most powerful, and it did badly in sales but caught up to the 360 near the end of its life.

The only reason why the PS4 won was because it was the cheapest, and had no problem with used games. What would you buy, a $400 PS4 that had better graphics or the $500 Xbox One with the included Kinect? That and Microsoft pissed off people hard with the whole no used games thing. They even wanted you to only play games when the console was connected to the internet. Of course they removed that shit, the day after the console was released. Yea, it's no wonder why the Xbox One has half the sales of the PS4.
 
Honestly its the games that I care about. I have bought every console in the last 2-3 gens except the Wii U. Xbox One doesnt really have any games I care about so I never bothered to get the One X. Multi platform games I buy on PS4 because of the install base. Right now I have more games for my switch than I do for the Xbox One.
 
nintendo should just drop out of the hardware side of things and just make mario for other systems......
 
lucidrenegade said:
The only exclusives that Microsoft has for the Xbox One are their own first party games. Those are available on Windows 10 as well, so if you have a good PC there's no point in having an Xbox One.
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While I think Microsoft has made shit tons of mistakes with PC gamers, platform exclusive and first come content is a driving force of the PS4.
 
It doesn't matter if you can build a PC that's better than an XBox One or PS4, even if you did it for the same amount of money. Any PC you build is going to be saddled with a general purpose operating system and driver layer that steals horsepower, and any PC game is going to be optimized for broadest compatibility.

In the early 2000's there was a push for XBoxOS, a purely gaming OS for your PC that would be sold with an XBox DVD drive and an XBox controller. It would have a shell with a text editor, full screen IE for a browser, and the ability to run one game at a time. And that's it. It didn't happen, but I still think people would buy it, I know I would.
 
DukenukemX said:
That didn't matter in the year 2000, or was that 1999 for Japan. Anyway, you're thinking of the PS3 which definitely had the cheapest Blu-Ray player. Sony won that console war because it was Sony. People back then would buy anything with the name Sony on it. If Sony made sneakers, people will kill you for it. Actually people killed for a PS2 the day of the launch. It was a screwed up time period.

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Yea it was the weakest of the bunch, with the exception of the Dreamcast. The GameCube and Xbox were released after the PS2, which made sense they were more powerful.

In fact, most consoles that did well were the weakest. GameBoy vs GameGear, the GB won. Genesis vs SNES, the SNES won. And yes the SNES was weak and half the games sold had co-processors to help the 3Mhz cpu in the SNES. Saturn vs N64 vs PS1, the PS1.. won. The N64 was the most powerful, and the Saturn was too if you could program for it. Even during the 360 vs PS3 vs Wii era, the Wii won, and like I said it's an overclocked GameCube. Hence why the Dolphin emulator had no problem immediately emulating the WIi on the day it was released. The PS3 is the most powerful, and it did badly in sales but caught up to the 360 near the end of its life.

The only reason why the PS4 won was because it was the cheapest, and had no problem with used games. What would you buy, a $400 PS4 that had better graphics or the $500 Xbox One with the included Kinect? That and Microsoft pissed off people hard with the whole no used games thing. They even wanted you to only play games when the console was connected to the internet. Of course they removed that shit, the day after the console was released. Yea, it's no wonder why the Xbox One has half the sales of the PS4.
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PS2 was notorious for having HORRIBLE jaggies. Xbox was designed to essentially offer FREE AA for all games, delivering a much smoother experience, even if all other facts were equal, which they weren't, it was more powerful in all aspects at the time. Anyone can tell you, the first time they sat down and played Halo 1 single player, was a landmark moment in console gaming.
 
Spent the last couple of weeks considering box x vs ps4 pro. I was about to get the ps4 pro until I learned they didn't incorporate a ps2/ps3 emulator option and psn was another digital mouth to feed for the older games I wanted. For now I'm holding off, probably take the leap around BF. Sony's exclusives look great and I'm tempted because I know from past experiences that their exclusives are usually well optimized most current reviews collaborate that. Most reviews also say they have good HDR implementation. Hardware wise box x is superior but there's no reason to get it if you already have a good rig.
 
alamox said:
you probably could if memory was cheaper, with an APU for 300-350$
AMD 2200G 90$ + hdd 40$ + mobo 40$ + psu 50$ + 8Go 50$ (normal price ) + case 30$ , maybe another 50$ to get mouse and keyboard and an xbox360 controller, and you would still run most recent games at high settings 720p, or medium to low at 1080p
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Ah, 11 posts in and the obligatory PC build post, that took longer than I thought it would. :D Oh, and do not forget the monitor and operating system cost. (Homes already have a TV but not everyone has a monitor since a lot of people use a laptop instead. Also, at this time, 8GB of ram is at least $90, not $50 and the One X has 12GB of ram.
 
DukenukemX said:
Well the Xbox One was less powerful and more expensive. The PS2 was the weakes console from it's generation if you don't count the Dreamcast, which I think the Dreamcast might have been better anyway. The GameCube was faster and the Xbox Original was faster. Technically the Xbox 360 wasn't the best selling console of its generation either, but the Wii. If fact the Wii sold as many machines as the PS3 and the 360 and it's technically an overclocked GameCube.

The Xbox One is suffering from the mistakes that Microsoft made before the console even launched. It cost more, thanks to the Kinect that nobody wanted. It was slower, as this was done to keep costs low cause they're including the Kinect and the stupid TV functionality that nobody wanted. They were planning to prevent used game sales, which nobody wanted. Halo fucking sucks now, which nobody wants anymore.

Microsoft has no choice but to wait for the next console cycle... if there's another console cycle.
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Consoles are not going anywhere but, eventually, disc based media is.
 
Sony has the better hardware AND the better games this gen. That's what happens when you get complacent (just like Sony itself did after the PS 2).
 
bugleyman said:
Sony has the better hardware AND the better games this gen. That's what happens when you get complacent (just like Sony itself did after the PS 2).
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Better hardware, not even close but, better games, not really. (Exclusives, maybe but, it depends on what you like to play.)
 
I'd like to know how many sales Microsoft drove to Sony due to an entire generation getting burned by the shitheap that was XBOX360. You can bet your ass Microsoft made an ocean of bitter customers after that one.
 
B770 said:
nintendo should just drop out of the hardware side of things and just make mario for other systems......
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Why? I would love them to do that but it makes them bank. Unlike Sony and MS Nintendo has never sold their systems at a loss. I am sure the Wii u even made them money. Nintendo proabably make a ton from all the shovel ware they allow on their systrms.
 
ManofGod said:
Consoles are not going anywhere but, eventually, disc based media is.
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Every console generation has been harder for people to migrate over to the new console. The transition from the 360/PS3 to the Xbone/PS4 was extremely hard. Mainly because developers were pumping out remaster's instead of new fucking games. Putting a unique game on a console that was just released is a very hard pill to swallow for studios. Took years for people to migrate over to the Xbone/PS4.

If Microsoft and Sony make a new console, it'll be extremely hard to sell them without a killer title. Nintendo jumped into the console market with Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey. That and the console is portable, which if seems stupid when they already have the 3DS, but likely to give the console value. If Nintendo just sat the machine at home with proper cooling, the Tegra X1 chip could run twice as fast. That's one hell of a sacrifice to make something portable for 2 hours.

If Microsoft makes another console, it'll just be a glorified Windows 10 machine that just so happens to play games. Sony though, I could see them trying to make a real console, if people can afford it. I wouldn't be shocked if Sony wants games to cost $70, which will just be the death of Playstation. PC gaming would just explode, given that Microsoft doesn't try to funnel people to the Windows Store to buy games. Which they will, but will likely fail like any of their greedy methods so far. Makes sense to try to merge PC gaming with Xbox, assuming you can remove Steam, Origin, UPlay, whatever Blizzard uses, and etc.

Nintendo... yea they'll make another console and then everyone will just emulate it cause it would run on what would be the equivalent of the Raspberry Pi 4. And then Nintendo will finally quit the hardware industry and make mobile and PC games.
 
DukenukemX said:
Every console generation has been harder for people to migrate over to the new console. The transition from the 360/PS3 to the Xbone/PS4 was extremely hard. Mainly because developers were pumping out remaster's instead of new fucking games. Putting a unique game on a console that was just released is a very hard pill to swallow for studios. Took years for people to migrate over to the Xbone/PS4.

If Microsoft and Sony make a new console, it'll be extremely hard to sell them without a killer title. Nintendo jumped into the console market with Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey. That and the console is portable, which if seems stupid when they already have the 3DS, but likely to give the console value. If Nintendo just sat the machine at home with proper cooling, the Tegra X1 chip could run twice as fast. That's one hell of a sacrifice to make something portable for 2 hours.

If Microsoft makes another console, it'll just be a glorified Windows 10 machine that just so happens to play games. Sony though, I could see them trying to make a real console, if people can afford it. I wouldn't be shocked if Sony wants games to cost $70, which will just be the death of Playstation. PC gaming would just explode, given that Microsoft doesn't try to funnel people to the Windows Store to buy games. Which they will, but will likely fail like any of their greedy methods so far. Makes sense to try to merge PC gaming with Xbox, assuming you can remove Steam, Origin, UPlay, whatever Blizzard uses, and etc.

Nintendo... yea they'll make another console and then everyone will just emulate it cause it would run on what would be the equivalent of the Raspberry Pi 4. And then Nintendo will finally quit the hardware industry and make mobile and PC games.
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Yeah that is not happening.
 
Speaking from my own experience, Microsoft pissed me off with their continued Xbox 360 RROD issues and their stupid decisions when launching Xbox One (covered here already). I bought a PS4 because of those and then years later, because my idiot brothers bought XBones, I bought one on a huge sale as the Xbox One S was being released. The PS4 is the better system IMO, just like I thought my PS3 was better than my 360.
 
Microsoft learnt in 2013 with Xbox One and Windows 8 that you do not give major projects to multi-millionaire playboy project managers who have nothing to lose.

Imagine being paid a bunch to run a huge project for three years for a corp like MS and knowing win or fail you'll still walk away with $30 million a week after release!

"LET'S PARRRTAAAAYYYY!"
 
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