Anyone notice a healthy bandwidth performance drop with 1803?

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klepp0906

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So ive been losing my hair for about a week trying to sort out the issues im having. Began with ping spikes which led to bandwidth testing and its beginning to look like the new windows update may be at fault.

ive changed dns. ive disabled/enabled dns relay. Ive rebooted modem & switch. Ive had a tech out to test signal strength.

His netbook plugged directly into the modem got expected and acceptable speeds. I got expected speeds when it was installed a month ago but between then and now who knows what changed and one thing did for sure - an update from 1709 to 1803.

I circumvented my switch as a process of elmination. Plugged my pc directly into the modem hoping to see better speeds but nope, still bad. so not modem. not switch.

I have 3 pc's unfortunately theyre all on 1803. I cant test on one as its an old laptop with a 100mb ethernet port.

The other 2 im testing on and both get inadequate and inconsistent speeds.

Since they both did i thought for sure it was the switch. Since that isnt it, the only other factor that ties them together is the OS.

Speeds were good before, they are no longer.



Just looking for some insight on what my options are? I def dont want to have to reinstall to test my theory. It cant/wont happen on my main pc but even on my backup pc thats a chore id rather not under take for a few hundred mbps. (pains me to say that but with kids, time is at a premium these days lol)

Has anyone noticed the same? If so is it something microsoft will eventually address?

no idea what to do.

On the day of install i was getting ~950/50 today the best i managed after tweaking a buncha settings for throughput was ~700/40

so inconsistent that some are ~300mbps and most are in the 600mbps range of my hardwired gigabit connection.


Networking isnt my thing so unsure where to even go beyond what ive done already.

Any takers? :p
 
klepp0906 said:
So ive been losing my hair for about a week trying to sort out the issues im having. Began with ping spikes which led to bandwidth testing and its beginning to look like the new windows update may be at fault.

ive changed dns. ive disabled/enabled dns relay. Ive rebooted modem & switch. Ive had a tech out to test signal strength.

His netbook plugged directly into the modem got expected and acceptable speeds. I got expected speeds when it was installed a month ago but between then and now who knows what changed and one thing did for sure - an update from 1709 to 1803.

I circumvented my switch as a process of elmination. Plugged my pc directly into the modem hoping to see better speeds but nope, still bad. so not modem. not switch.

I have 3 pc's unfortunately theyre all on 1803. I cant test on one as its an old laptop with a 100mb ethernet port.

The other 2 im testing on and both get inadequate and inconsistent speeds.

Since they both did i thought for sure it was the switch. Since that isnt it, the only other factor that ties them together is the OS.

Speeds were good before, they are no longer.



Just looking for some insight on what my options are? I def dont want to have to reinstall to test my theory. It cant/wont happen on my main pc but even on my backup pc thats a chore id rather not under take for a few hundred mbps. (pains me to say that but with kids, time is at a premium these days lol)

Has anyone noticed the same? If so is it something microsoft will eventually address?

no idea what to do.

On the day of install i was getting ~950/50 today the best i managed after tweaking a buncha settings for throughput was ~700/40

so inconsistent that some are ~300mbps and most are in the 600mbps range of my hardwired gigabit connection.


Networking isnt my thing so unsure where to even go beyond what ive done already.

Any takers? :p
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yes I have it loaded for a week or better now. I get random slow freezes then lock up it all starts with web pages. play bf 4 for hours no problem.
 
Hmm. id hardly call a 2nd post even anecdotal yet but i certainly appreciate the reply. makes me feel marginally better. I specifically kept my pc on the "app fixes & drivers" ring to avoid problems. Somehow it was pushed to it.

Stil the problelms I was trying to avoid was bluescreens and/or things not working in their entirety. I didnt expect my net to now be borked. Course it could be coincidental but the troubleshooting is now above my paygrade so im at a loss :(

this mornings speedtest on a 1000/50 http://www.speedtest.net/result/7256825851
 
went ahead and got all crazy. tried a linux and mac vm. both had normal speeds. Which makes me wonder if its the browser or something else. /grumble.

how would a specific browser effect running a speedtest negatively relative to other browsers if thats the case?
 
Don't use speed test, it's garbage and doesn't really produce any meaningful results. Go find one of those services that test your ISP quality for VOIP. They run more than just a simple download/upload and the results aren't cached on your local ISPs nodes to fake the results. Also try multiple tests on different browsers (including edge) and compare the results with your non-windows machine.

Also, check your event viewer. I did notice after the last windows update, my Yoga's wifi driver was crashing constantly and resetting. I had to go to the intel site and download/install the latest manually. The driver installed was at least 1 or 2 major versions behind. Once updated, it stopped crashing.
 
Biznatch said:
Don't use speed test, it's garbage and doesn't really produce any meaningful results. Go find one of those services that test your ISP quality for VOIP. They run more than just a simple download/upload and the results aren't cached on your local ISPs nodes to fake the results. Also try multiple tests on different browsers (including edge) and compare the results with your non-windows machine.

Also, check your event viewer. I did notice after the last windows update, my Yoga's wifi driver was crashing constantly and resetting. I had to go to the intel site and download/install the latest manually. The driver installed was at least 1 or 2 major versions behind. Once updated, it stopped crashing.
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good call on event viewer, ill take a peek. I know the update completely killed my bluetooth on my other machine. If i try to toggle it off - bluescreen. Still havent gotten to looking at that. Not a priority but frustrating nonetheless. Never fails with "windows-as-a-service"

As for the voip quality test, ill have to take a gander ala google. never heard of/unfamiliair with.
 
klepp0906 said:
good call on event viewer, ill take a peek. I know the update completely killed my bluetooth on my other machine. If i try to toggle it off - bluescreen. Still havent gotten to looking at that. Not a priority but frustrating nonetheless. Never fails with "windows-as-a-service"

As for the voip quality test, ill have to take a gander ala google. never heard of/unfamiliair with.
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The DSL Reports test is fairly comprehensive. More so than Speedtest / Ookla that's for sure.
 
I've seen Windows 10 version updates have network and sound problems that were fixed by uninstalling and reinstalling drivers. If upgrading from 1709 to 1803 is the major change it's worth a shot.
 
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I don't think bandwidth performance drops are "healthy."

My Win10 17134 build install in my bandwidth-rich office is hitting the roof of my ethernet connection.
 
I tend to use LAN Speed Lite or iperf because internet speeds bring in more variables and you have to narrow down suspects in bottlenecks. Do you have an old drive that you can install 1709 onto?
 
are you using the most up to date nic drivers, not the built in windows ones?
 
well best i can tell "so far" is 1 of my issues was the tests being ran in chrome which was substantially slower than other browsers.

the other is my first 2 hops are having ping spikes of over 150ms when they should be like sub 10 id imagine.

This is above my paygrade so im unsure if its something on my isp's end or something i have to fix. I do know ive ran winmtr on 2 pcs so its not pc related. At least i can alleviate that as being a potential issue.

Thanks for the replies guys <3
 
pendragon1 said:
are you using the most up to date nic drivers, not the built in windows ones?
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I am yes. 23.1

PliotronX said:
I tend to use LAN Speed Lite or iperf because internet speeds bring in more variables and you have to narrow down suspects in bottlenecks. Do you have an old drive that you can install 1709 onto?
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Sort of. I could probably smash something together and get another clean install going. That being said as per my former post - I think ive eliminated it being a pc issue. Its looking like its going to be a router/gateway issue, or an issue with the node/wideopenwest network.

I ran winmtr and pingplotter and other than those first 1/2 hops being related to my ISP and having large ping spikes, i dont know how to decipher much else.

I did notice via dslreports speed test im getting tremendous amounts of bufferbloat as well.

Would have neve rnoticed any of this outside when I moved mys peed test from chrome to a different browser except im getting crazy ping spikes in online games.

also noticed via dlsreports test my bufferbloat goes up to like 400ms >< that cant be good.
 
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