1366 x58 Xeon Enthusiast overclocks club

primetime said:
https://www.hardocp.com/article/2018/04/19/amd_2nd_gen_ryzen_2_2700x_zen_cpu_review Anyone thinking of starting over with this? On paper it seems to
be about twice as powerful as our current rigs. Or is it?
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As always, at what cost? I got my X5660 and Sabertooth board with 12GB of RAM for maybe $150 total. I'd have to find a pretty good deal just to get 16GB of RAM for $150. Mine is currently running as a video server, and I encode video on it. It's starting to seem a little slow as I could probably use double the power, but I don't feel like spending ~$600 for a new motherboard/CPU/RAM combo right now.
 
Everybody seems to have a 6/12 Xeon. I'm stuck with an X5672 4/8.

BTW, I have 6 x 2GB ECC for sale.
 
Hi All,

Just wondering if anyone has ever had any issues getting a W3680 to run on a GA-EX58-UD3R (rev. 1.6) on latest bios ver "FK"? I recently bought this chip from a Chinese seller on Ebay and have already had a replacement sent because the first wasn't working. Now the 2nd isn't working and I'm thinking maybe it's something I'm doing wrong.

Anyone have any advice? The computer is fully functional with my i7 920 atm but as soon as I put in the W3680 and try to boot I just get a black screen with no beeps.

Already tried it without my GPU and clearing CMOS. I've also inspected the chip contacts and all seem clean.

Someone on another forum said I should try swapping ram but it works perfectly fine with my i7 920 so not sure how that could be the issue. According to intel the W3680 supports more types of ram than the i7 920.

Any help/advice offered (before my blood pressure skyrockets and I start furiously google translating some Chinese swear words) would be much appreciated. :)

Please note I'm currently waiting on more thermal paste arriving so it may be a few days before I can try any suggestions (if there are any).

Thanks.
 
Shinjerk said:
Hi All,

Just wondering if anyone has ever had any issues getting a W3680 to run on a GA-EX58-UD3R (rev. 1.6) on latest bios ver "FK"? I recently bought this chip from a Chinese seller on Ebay and have already had a replacement sent because the first wasn't working. Now the 2nd isn't working and I'm thinking maybe it's something I'm doing wrong.

Anyone have any advice? The computer is fully functional with my i7 920 atm but as soon as I put in the W3680 and try to boot I just get a black screen with no beeps.

Already tried it without my GPU and clearing CMOS. I've also inspected the chip contacts and all seem clean.

Someone on another forum said I should try swapping ram but it works perfectly fine with my i7 920 so not sure how that could be the issue. According to intel the W3680 supports more types of ram than the i7 920.

Any help/advice offered (before my blood pressure skyrockets and I start furiously google translating some Chinese swear words) would be much appreciated. :)

Please note I'm currently waiting on more thermal paste arriving so it may be a few days before I can try any suggestions (if there are any).

Thanks.
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Gosh i remember it seems like you can check your bios to see if it has the correct cpu microcode and i could swear people figured out a way to add them if a particular ones were missing.....the info is in this thread buried like a thousand pages back. I think someone will check in with actual direct experience and give you better guidance. (just be patient) Ill be trying to remember what program people were using to fix this
 
kirbyrj said:
As always, at what cost? I got my X5660 and Sabertooth board with 12GB of RAM for maybe $150 total. I'd have to find a pretty good deal just to get 16GB of RAM for $150. Mine is currently running as a video server, and I encode video on it. It's starting to seem a little slow as I could probably use double the power, but I don't feel like spending ~$600 for a new motherboard/CPU/RAM combo right now.
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You could either install a streamlined Win7 or Linux variant to get that "feel" back. Or find a cheap x5670 & overclock.
 
Update: RAM & fans upgrade

Found some tri-channel RAM on Newegg for ~$100 for 12gigs, not too shabby, so I pulled the trigger (after crashing the fuck out of Ubuntu Live on 6gig with too many FF tabs open). I also had that side panel fan issue, where it was hitting the Evo212, and had ordered a new slimline fan.

So here we go:

Side panel, as it was:
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You can see how tight a fit with the standard fan:
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I had taped the filter in place until I could replace the fan:
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New slimline fan, 120mm (couldn't find any 140's), next to el cheapo fan:
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Slimline in place, it's still hitting the heatpipes:
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Side panel before the "field reformation":
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Side panel after, I used the top of the chair cushion like a sandbag, and went "tappity-tap-tap" with a little ball peen hammer. Just like body work ('cept ALOT shittier), I moved the fan mount points out 1/8-3/16", including the entire grill area:
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Fan installed:
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Panel in place, now it clears:
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To finish, I tossed in the RAM--color me surprised when I found out that the original stuff I put in was not only G.SKILL, but the exact same stuff as the Ripjaws (well, same timings and all, different capacities):
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And, yeah: everything recognized fine.


Panel back on, unless you're looking really closely, you don't really notice the upset. All that really matters is the fan now works:
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During all this, and up to the weekend, I had noticed some odd behavior when the machine would reboot--the BIOS splash screen kept coming on, major :WTF: moment. So, did a bit of checking, found that the BIOS battery is a CR2032, which is the same as my garage door openers, so I swiped one & put it in, and everything cleared right up. Not bad for a nearly 10-yo bios battery.

Got Ubuntu-MATE installed, Minecraft and Steam installed flawlessly, so now to evaluate both and see if I can live with it. :)


Edit: whoops, forgot to mention, picked up a Microsoft Designer 7N9-00001 Bluetooth keyboard & mouse. I won't use the mouse (Kensington wireless trackball FTMFW), and I prefer keyboards like this overall, and it felt good when I tried it in Fry's yesterday, so got a BT 4.0 dongle and such, got them home, the dongle is recognized by Ubuntu, but the kb won't pair. Gotta work that out now. :/
 
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If you run Linux, I would suggest you to try CoreFreq to check your DDR geometry and latencies for X58 QPI.
Stress features also included to reach the highest turbo ratio per Core

Disable NMI Watchdog;
insmod the Kernel driver with Experimental=1
Start daemon in one term and cli in another.

Big_Rig_Stig said:
Update: RAM & fans upgrade

Found some tri-channel RAM on Newegg for ~$100 for 12gigs, not too shabby, so I pulled the trigger (after crashing the fuck out of Ubuntu Live on 6gig with too many FF tabs open). I also had that side panel fan issue, where it was hitting the Evo212, and had ordered a new slimline fan.

So here we go:

Side panel, as it was:
View attachment 68843

You can see how tight a fit with the standard fan:
View attachment 68844


I had taped the filter in place until I could replace the fan:
View attachment 68845


New slimline fan, 120mm (couldn't find any 140's), next to el cheapo fan:
View attachment 68846


Slimline in place, it's still hitting the heatpipes:
View attachment 68847 View attachment 68848


Side panel before the "field reformation":
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Side panel after, I used the top of the chair cushion like a sandbag, and went "tappity-tap-tap" with a little ball peen hammer. Just like body work ('cept ALOT shittier), I moved the fan mount points out 1/8-3/16", including the entire grill area:
View attachment 68851


Fan installed:
View attachment 68852


Panel in place, now it clears:
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To finish, I tossed in the RAM--color me surprised when I found out that the original stuff I put in was not only G.SKILL, but the exact same stuff as the Ripjaws (well, same timings and all, different capacities):
View attachment 68855


And, yeah: everything recognized fine.


Panel back on, unless you're looking really closely, you don't really notice the upset. All that really matters is the fan now works:
View attachment 68856



During all this, and up to the weekend, I had noticed some odd behavior when the machine would reboot--the BIOS splash screen kept coming on, major :WTF: moment. So, did a bit of checking, found that the BIOS battery is a CR2032, which is the same as my garage door openers, so I swiped one & put it in, and everything cleared right up. Not bad for a nearly 10-yo bios battery.

Got Ubuntu-MATE installed, Minecraft and Steam installed flawlessly, so now to evaluate both and see if I can live with it. :)


Edit: whoops, forgot to mention, picked up a Microsoft Designer 7N9-00001 Bluetooth keyboard & mouse. I won't use the mouse (Kensington wireless trackball FTMFW), and I prefer keyboards like this overall, and it felt good when I tried it in Fry's yesterday, so got a BT 4.0 dongle and such, got them home, the dongle is recognized by Ubuntu, but the kb won't pair. Gotta work that out now. :/
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CyrIng said:
If you run Linux, I would suggest you to try CoreFreq to check your DDR geometry and latencies for X58 QPI.
Stress features also included to reach the highest turbo ratio per Core

Disable NMI Watchdog;
insmod the Kernel driver with Experimental=1
Start daemon in one term and cli in another.
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Um, d'ya mind spelling that out a bit, I'm as big a Lin00b as they make 'em... :(
 
primetime said:
Gosh i remember it seems like you can check your bios to see if it has the correct cpu microcode and i could swear people figured out a way to add them if a particular ones were missing.....the info is in this thread buried like a thousand pages back. I think someone will check in with actual direct experience and give you better guidance. (just be patient) Ill be trying to remember what program people were using to fix this
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Hi Primetime, Thanks for the reply. :)

I seem to have got things working but I'm completely confused as to why. Let me try explain...

Originally I was running my i7 920 with 3x4GB of micron 1066MHz ram with timings of 7-7-7. This was the also the same setup I was trying to get the W3680 to work with. All triple channel and in the correct slots as designated by Gigabyte.

Today I remembered I had a stick of corsair 4GB 1333Mhz ram with timings of 9-9-9 and decided to try it by itself with the W3680, and it actually booted! Now I'm not quite sure why the previous ram didn't work as I'm sure intel say a W3680 will handle even 800MHz so this already isn't making much sense to me.

But then it gets even more confusing as I then tried putting in all the ram and it's still working!... everything still triple channel (according to cpuid) and working completely fine...

So can anyone explain to me why this is working now by just adding a 4GB corsair stick into the mix? I've been trying to work it out myself from what little knowledge I've gleaned over the years but none of it makes any sense to me.

I'm happy things are working but VERY CONFUSED.
 
Ran into a black screen/no post issue on a Gigabyte board a while back. 3 sticks of ram worked, adding 3 more caused a no post. A bump in ram voltage by one notched resolved it. I can only conclude that 6 sticks caused a small voltage drop and caused the issue. Maybe you were experiencing the same?
 
Hi ewb302, thanks for the reply. :)

Actually now that I'm looking in CPU-Z again I'm noticing the 3 Micron RAM sticks have a max bandwidth of 800MHz, as opposed to the corsair ram stick at 667MHz...

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So as I understand it, you take the max bandwidth and multiply it by 2 to get the frequency of the ram, so the Micron ones are 1600MHz? If so does that mean the motherboard was reducing the frequency to 1066 when the i7 920 was present but for some reason couldn't reduce the speed with the w3680?

i7 920 with one stick of the micron ram:
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w3680 with 1 stick of corsair ram:
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I'm also noticing the memory frequency multiplier changes from x8 to x10 with the Xeon...

...

...

I still don't get it :(

It's been a long day so I think I'll call it a night and get some sleep. I know I'm probably missing something really obvious so to any charitable souls out there: feel free to explain to me why I'm an idiot please. I'd be eternally grateful. :notworthy:

Thank you. :sleep:
 
At least you got it working.....I think what ewb mentioned certainly has merit.....you kinda think it would have at least posted though. We're kinda running these thing's way passed a normal number of hours for a PC's life span (even under heavy clocks and usage) .....mine has finaky sata cables and my raid fails from time to time....power down and reseating them fixes it every time.
 
Shinjerk said:
Hi Primetime, Thanks for the reply. :)

I seem to have got things working but I'm completely confused as to why. Let me try explain...

Originally I was running my i7 920 with 3x4GB of micron 1066MHz ram with timings of 7-7-7. This was the also the same setup I was trying to get the W3680 to work with. All triple channel and in the correct slots as designated by Gigabyte.

Today I remembered I had a stick of corsair 4GB 1333Mhz ram with timings of 9-9-9 and decided to try it by itself with the W3680, and it actually booted! Now I'm not quite sure why the previous ram didn't work as I'm sure intel say a W3680 will handle even 800MHz so this already isn't making much sense to me.

But then it gets even more confusing as I then tried putting in all the ram and it's still working!... everything still triple channel (according to cpuid) and working completely fine...

So can anyone explain to me why this is working now by just adding a 4GB corsair stick into the mix? I've been trying to work it out myself from what little knowledge I've gleaned over the years but none of it makes any sense to me.

I'm happy things are working but VERY CONFUSED.
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Shinjerk said:
Hi ewb302, thanks for the reply. :)

Actually now that I'm looking in CPU-Z again I'm noticing the 3 Micron RAM sticks have a max bandwidth of 800MHz, as opposed to the corsair ram stick at 667MHz...

View attachment 69096View attachment 69097View attachment 69098 View attachment 69099 View attachment 69100

So as I understand it, you take the max bandwidth and multiply it by 2 to get the frequency of the ram, so the Micron ones are 1600MHz? If so does that mean the motherboard was reducing the frequency to 1066 when the i7 920 was present but for some reason couldn't reduce the speed with the w3680?

i7 920 with one stick of the micron ram:
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w3680 with 1 stick of corsair ram:
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I'm also noticing the memory frequency multiplier changes from x8 to x10 with the Xeon...

...

...

I still don't get it :(

It's been a long day so I think I'll call it a night and get some sleep. I know I'm probably missing something really obvious so to any charitable souls out there: feel free to explain to me why I'm an idiot please. I'd be eternally grateful. :notworthy:

Thank you. :sleep:
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Yanno, when I dropped my 5670 in, I started getting these "voltage mismatch" messages from Linux during boot, I haven't been able to capture them yet, but it's very strange that it started when I swapped out the 920 for the 5670. The BIOS recognized the proc just fine, just that odd message. I even got it with the new RAM, oddly enough.

I haven't tried booting windows yet, and GRUB shows my old Win7 drive as bootable, so mebbe I should try it & see what I get...
 
Wyodiver said:
Oh, I will, eventually. Probably an X5690.
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I have/had both. If you are going to stay at stock speeds, get the X5690. If you are going to OC, I would recommend the X5670. It's cheaper and will hit nearly the same speed as the X5690 in most 24/7 builds. These things typically are running ~4.2+ GHz 24/7. It's a better bang for your buck and the two things you'll miss not having the X5690 are 1) bragging rights and 2) a couple of extra multipliers.

Performance wise, you'll miss nothing, have your upgrade sooner and have a couple extra bucks left over.
 
It's going into a Dell Precision T3500 / proprietary X58 MoBo, so no overclocking is possible. Therefore, the best I can do is an X5690.

Do you, or anybody have an old X5690 for sale? Could arrange cash, plus my X5672 4/8 3.2-3.6
 
I wonder if you go with the W3690-70 processors (those with unlocked ratios), you can modify multiplier values of register
MSR_TURBO_RATIO_LIMIT and overclock cores without the help of the BIOS.
Linux provides the msr.ko module to read/write such register.
Wyodiver said:
It's going into a Dell Precision T3500 / proprietary X58 MoBo, so no overclocking is possible. Therefore, the best I can do is an X5690.

Do you, or anybody have an old X5690 for sale? Could arrange cash, plus my X5672 4/8 3.2-3.6
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Wyodiver said:
It's going into a Dell Precision T3500 / proprietary X58 MoBo, so no overclocking is possible. Therefore, the best I can do is an X5690.

Do you, or anybody have an old X5690 for sale? Could arrange cash, plus my X5672 4/8 3.2-3.6
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Just checking back on this forum and noticed your comment.

Isn't it possible to overclock proprietary motherboards with the following?

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/throttlestop-overclocking-desktop-pcs.235975/

Just something I came across while doing some research, not something I've tried before.
 
Wyodiver said:
It's going into a Dell Precision T3500 / proprietary X58 MoBo, so no overclocking is possible. Therefore, the best I can do is an X5690.

Do you, or anybody have an old X5690 for sale? Could arrange cash, plus my X5672 4/8 3.2-3.6
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I don't, still have two sitting in an SR-2 rig and power it up when I feel like it.

I'd spring for the X5690, in your case, as long as your MB supports it. It's an older IPC and single threaded performance will show it, but, with 6 cores, 12 threads at 3.46GHz it'll handle anything you need it to do without having to worry about OC'ing.
 
Alright, So after 1 hour of Prime95 I think i will call it stable. Highest the CPU got was 79.5 overall (I think 83c was the highest core). Welp looks like im not going to upgrade anytime soon. This thing is 1 beast of a CPU still. I'm sure I could push it higher, but no need.

Would love to pick up some cl8 Memory though, might be time to take a look around.
 
Brackle said:
Alright, So after 1 hour of Prime95 I think i will call it stable. Highest the CPU got was 79.5 overall (I think 83c was the highest core). Welp looks like im not going to upgrade anytime soon. This thing is 1 beast of a CPU still. I'm sure I could push it higher, but no need.

Would love to pick up some cl8 Memory though, might be time to take a look around.
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4.6ghz clocks......and 1hr prime stable? thats a golden chip there and not the first time i have heard of good results from x5675's..I need to make the switch to water cooling one of these days cause no way my cooler could hold up with 1.44vcore
 
primetime said:
4.6ghz clocks......and 1hr prime stable? thats a golden chip there and not the first time i have heard of good results from x5675's..I need to make the switch to water cooling one of these days cause no way my cooler could hold up with 1.44vcore
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Yea me either. From what I read have been reading these Xeon's like odd numbered multipliers. So the X5675 has a 23x available. That is what made me easily hit the 4.6ghz. Now being stable is a whole other thing to even get. Really am shocked how stable it was. Now I do need to try some games, but I am waiting for prices to get a lil better. My Original 980ti died, and I am still waiting for a damn check from MSI....

Anyway looks like these old dog of a Chipset have some legs still!
 
Brackle said:
Alright, So after 1 hour of Prime95 I think i will call it stable. Highest the CPU got was 79.5 overall (I think 83c was the highest core). Welp looks like im not going to upgrade anytime soon. This thing is 1 beast of a CPU still. I'm sure I could push it higher, but no need.

Would love to pick up some cl8 Memory though, might be time to take a look around.
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Doing stability testing in the past, I have had plenty of unexpected failures after 5+ hours of testing. It's all personal preference, but I would not conclude my personal rig was stable with only one hour of testing.
 
Shinjerk said:
Just checking back on this forum and noticed your comment.

Isn't it possible to overclock proprietary motherboards with the following?

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/throttlestop-overclocking-desktop-pcs.235975/

Just something I came across while doing some research, not something I've tried before.
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I read somewhere else (overclockers.net?) that someone used that utility to overclock a Dell with a 5670,iirc.

And: is there a Linux version of that?
<_< >_>
 
Brackle said:
Alright, So after 1 hour of Prime95 I think i will call it stable. Highest the CPU got was 79.5 overall (I think 83c was the highest core). Welp looks like im not going to upgrade anytime soon. This thing is 1 beast of a CPU still. I'm sure I could push it higher, but no need.

Would love to pick up some cl8 Memory though, might be time to take a look around.
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I pulled the trigger on this a couple weeks ago & dropped it in, works VERY nicely. ;)

https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16820231356
 
ewb302 said:
Doing stability testing in the past, I have had plenty of unexpected failures after 5+ hours of testing. It's all personal preference, but I would not conclude my personal rig was stable with only one hour of testing.
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I totally agree. Thats why I left it going overnight for 8+ hours and its pretty stable so far.
 
Wyodiver said:
It's going into a Dell Precision T3500 / proprietary X58 MoBo, so no overclocking is possible. Therefore, the best I can do is an X5690.

Do you, or anybody have an old X5690 for sale? Could arrange cash, plus my X5672 4/8 3.2-3.6
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Shinjerk said:
Just checking back on this forum and noticed your comment.

Isn't it possible to overclock proprietary motherboards with the following?

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/throttlestop-overclocking-desktop-pcs.235975/

Just something I came across while doing some research, not something I've tried before.
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Be aware that an unlocked CPU is required in that T3500 for Throttlestop to be able to change the multiplier. So far none of the X series 1366s have been confirmed. So would suggest you go for the W3680 which has been confirmed to be unlocked and overclock in T3500 by Unclewebb, the TS developer who has also posted in this thread a few pages back. As a plus that W3680 will be about $40 cheaper than the X5690 which is known to be locked.
 
So after a good day of gaming, I can easily say the CPU is stable. I played Rust/PUBG/SFV/Witcher 3....looks stable as hell! Next up buyin a 4k monitor, that will test this CPU out for sure!
 
Brackle said:
So after a good day of gaming, I can easily say the CPU is stable. I played Rust/PUBG/SFV/Witcher 3....looks stable as hell! Next up buyin a 4k monitor, that will test this CPU out for sure!
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Rounding and off by one errors don't usually trigger a reboot or bluescreen in all cases, and a 4k monitor is going to stress your GPU, not CPU... Minimum Prime95 balanced test on these CPU should be 24 hours, before declaring stability and temperature max -- if it's just for a personal gaming rig, and you don't mind it abruptly locking or shutting down, that's fine, it's stable enough for your usages, but please don't ever do anything like folding proteins or mission critical computation on that thing unless it's actually tested.
 
Farkle said:
Rounding and off by one errors don't usually trigger a reboot or bluescreen in all cases, and a 4k monitor is going to stress your GPU, not CPU... Minimum Prime95 balanced test on these CPU should be 24 hours, before declaring stability and temperature max -- if it's just for a personal gaming rig, and you don't mind it abruptly locking or shutting down, that's fine, it's stable enough for your usages, but please don't ever do anything like folding proteins or mission critical computation on that thing unless it's actually tested.
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I don’t plan too. Even if the chip dies. Not like I can’t get another one for cheap. Besides u don’t use a 10 year old system for folding anymore imo. Way better options available
 
Have any of you guys had any issues with windows build updates? Seems like these days the ONLY success i have had the past year is doing clean install....I can remember once open a time i probably did a dozen build updates with never an issue. Im even having issues doing clean installs now....just seemed like the boot disk i made would never fully boot into the install screen. Normal windows update failed several times now...i tried update assistant and no dice...Even using rufas...i even unplugged all the other hard drives before hand. I work 60 hrs a week on the road so i could easily be just over looking something...I guess i need to try changing some bios settings...disable raid or something? I think my board is showing its age or bad sata cables and or ports. I have been getting raid failure during certain boot ups and have to power down and reseat the sata cables.
 
primetime said:
Have any of you guys had any issues with windows build updates? Seems like these days the ONLY success i have had the past year is doing clean install....I can remember once open a time i probably did a dozen build updates with never an issue. Im even having issues doing clean installs now....just seemed like the boot disk i made would never fully boot into the install screen. Normal windows update failed several times now...i tried update assistant and no dice...Even using rufas...i even unplugged all the other hard drives before hand. I work 60 hrs a week on the road so i could easily be just over looking something...I guess i need to try changing some bios settings...disable raid or something? I think my board is showing its age or bad sata cables and or ports. I have been getting raid failure during certain boot ups and have to power down and reseat the sata cables.
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I know that when you are installing windows. I had to use the native SATA ports. The 6.0GB non native ports would always fail a windows install. Not sure if that helps, just from my past experience.
 
Brackle said:
I know that when you are installing windows. I had to use the native SATA ports. The 6.0GB non native ports would always fail a windows install. Not sure if that helps, just from my past experience.
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YeA I agree....but I'm using all native....you bring up a good question though.....maybe I need to switch my os drive to a different sata port and or get rid of my raid setting in the bios...as in maybe my raid chip on my board is failing or causing is installs to get confused or messed up some how....next I'll try with raid turned off and up plugged....and or switch my SSD to different port.....isn't one of them an Intel port? Or whatever
 
primetime said:
YeA I agree....but I'm using all native....you bring up a good question though.....maybe I need to switch my os drive to a different sata port and or get rid of my raid setting in the bios...as in maybe my raid chip on my board is failing or causing is installs to get confused or messed up some how....next I'll try with raid turned off and up plugged....and or switch my SSD to different port.....isn't one of them an Intel port? Or whatever
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Yea I think it is. Check the motherboard manual to make sure which one is intel.
 
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