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I was hoping for more. The 8700K is $300 at Microcenter, so if my new build works out in the next few months it looks like I'll be sticking with that seeing as it's solely for gaming. I don't mind settling for 95% of the performance if it's cheaper, but not when it's the same price or more.
Man I miss living near a MC. For people without access to one, it really seems like the 2700x might be the way to go.
I'm going to need to see a 2500k vs 2700x article before I'm fully convinced. Who wants to step for the team?
(only partially kidding)
Man I miss living near a MC. For people without access to one, it really seems like the 2700x might be the way to go.
And if you're a gamer, the 8700K still rules at this point. But if you don't game.. its a no brainer I'd think.
At least from the benchmarks that I saw today.. showed the intel still do best in gaming.
And if you're a gamer, the 8700K still rules at this point. But if you don't game.. its a no brainer I'd think.
At least from the benchmarks that I saw today.. showed the intel still do best in gaming.
I’d think so. No matter what you upgrade to, you’re gonna have to upgrade it all. So there’s no shortcuts to save money really.I wonder if it would be worth it over my 4770 non k?
Maybe the best in gaming ONLY use cases, but overall not the best.
And that wholly depends on resolution/target framerate, otherwise Amdahl's off complaining about the graphics card. It matters slightly for 1080p and marginally at best. Otherwise it's pretty much a wash.
Juangra must be taking the day off
Looking at the latest IPC numbers and frametimes, some reviews made it look competitive with KabyLake at the same clocks. Which is why it's all the more sad that it can't hit say 4.5-4.7Ghz. If this refresh was hitting those clocks on air, this discussion wouldn't even be happeningI wonder if it would be worth it over my 4770 non k?
I expected 12LP would bring 200--400MHz higher than 14LPP. Confirmed.
I said 2000-series would OC to 4.3--4.4GHz. Reviews are getting 4.2--4.3GHz. AMD claims average OC of 4.2GHz. So it is a bit worse than I expected.
I said that latency reductions would come at expense of bandwidth. Confirmed.
I expected no IPC at core level and tiny IPC changes from IF/IMC teawks. Confirmed.
I expected 12LP would bring 200--400MHz higher than 14LPP. Confirmed.
I said 2000-series would OC to 4.3--4.4GHz. Reviews are getting 4.2--4.3GHz. AMD claims average OC of 4.2GHz. So it is a bit worse than I expected.
I said that latency reductions would come at expense of bandwidth. Confirmed.
I expected no IPC at core level and tiny IPC changes from IF/IMC teawks. Confirmed.
Here's my article:
Today I read some reviews of the 2700x. I have concluded that it is a much better CPU than the 7 year old 2500k. Feel free to upgrade.
I'm seeing more bias toward 4.3GHz.
Summary so far:
Anand: 4.35
Toms: 4.3 (but used 4.2 in testing because they didn't want to exceed 1.4v - obviously not [H]ard, lol)
Kyle: 4.2 (but said he didn't try too hard with it - more in forthcoming overclocking centered article)
Guru3d got 4.4, but seems like an outlier or golden sample.
Story seems to be 4.2 is easy. 4.3 requires some screwing around. Higher than 4.3 requires silicon lottery. Higher than 4.4 requires exotic setups.
It's mildly disappointing for me. Was hoping to see 4.4 be more common.
Silicon Jesus has spoken
And if you're a gamer, the 8700K still rules at this point. But if you don't game.. its a no brainer I'd think.
At least from the benchmarks that I saw today.. showed the intel still do best in gaming.
lived in Sunnyvale CA, with the MC just a couple of exits away and Nvidia headquarters down another exit . Now in Mesa AZ, At least we got a Fry's in Tempe, AZ, however, I get stuff delivered from Amazon for less than the price of gas running across town.
As for the review. I'm less impressed with Ryzen 2 than I thought I would be. I need an upgrade from an old I5 and had considered it for my next cpu, now I'm probably going to wait to see what intel has to offer.
Lol.. things have changed. That MC closed down a few years back. Nvidia HQ moved across the street to a new campus they just built. The old AMD HQ has closed down and moved about an exit away from Nvidia in a new shared campus setup, kind of sad seeing that the old campus address was 1 AMD way. Intel HQ is still where it was across the freeway from AMD and NVidia.
I always ignore guru3d. I will wait to Kyle further article, but comparing what reviews are getting now with what users are getting I think I can confirm my prediction of 4.3--4.4Ghz was a bit optimistic.
Thanks for a great review, Kyle. I haven't been as hopeful or excited about an AMD CPU since my 2500+ Barton, LOL.