Bielzebuddha
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Because they're engaging in anticompetitive practices worthy of Al Capone or the Mafia.Why would they?
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Because they're engaging in anticompetitive practices worthy of Al Capone or the Mafia.Why would they?
Even though I'm currently running a 970, this is my first Nvidia GPU since having a 6600GT.
NV 6600GT > ATI 1950Pro > 3870 > 4870 > 4870X2 + 4870 TriFire (that was a bitch though) > 6950 > GTX970.
I don't remember having issues with ATI/AMD drivers aside from trying to get TriFire to work.
I just want to buy a couple of good Ryzen laptops. I've been holding on for almost two years now. Really don't feel like giving Intel any money. Where are the good Ryzen laptops?
While AMD cards can no longer uses cool names like "Republic Of Gamers"
And if it does very well, expect to see the next version of GPP replace "Gaming brand" with "Arez brand."
Lamest. Fucking. Excuse. Ever.
You know that is exactly what Intels lawyers said.... Its Dells choice to take our "rebate" cheques. Its their choice to agree to not use any AMD parts in X Y Z market segments. MS also had lawyers that said... they all have a choice. Of course OEMs can install any OS they like, its their choice to opt into our prefered vendor programs.
It seems to me that every AMD generation things go much the same way... NV appears to beat them up in the same 10 benchmark games 99% of the tech review sites use. 6 months later if you re run the same tests on those same games with newer patches some how the performance delta is a lot closer even though no specific AMD code is mentioned in the patches. (although fixes to IQ seem to be mentioned all the time) And if you run games released a year later... the AMD cards all of a sudden out perform the same year old NV cards.
Don't know but personally I havent had driver "issues" on amd or nvidia for a while. Like 2016.
I always strip with DDU and install fresh.
Maybe that's key?
I am glad GPP is exposed like a cats belly, I would keep in mind they still have claws.
Also I am happy with the vega 64 speed..... Just not the price
That part of the post was rhetorical.....I know ever well why they are doing it. Apathy or just plain don't care.Because they're engaging in anticompetitive practices worthy of Al Capone or the Mafia.
Let me get this right: you support businesses breaking the law, doing illegal and immoral things, and without consequences, for a profit?Why?
You don't shoot yourself in the hands when your only competitor is trying to chop off your knees.
AMD, as a pure act of doing business, needs to continue working with any AIBs that 'allegedly' join GPP, so their products continue to reach the largest potential consumer base possible.
If they start giving grief to 'alleged' GPP AIBs, that will sour the business relationship, and since we have no visibility on the status and health of those relationships, we have no clue if an AIB is that one last straw away from ditching AMD entirely and going all-in with Nvidia.
Furthermore, with this AMD makes a 'we're not a dick' move, directly countering Nvidia's 'alleged' GPP 'we're all dicks here' move, and comes out on top from a moral and principle sense.
This plays well psychology wise, and could be a factor for how 'alleged' GPP AIBs change their line-up, but at the end of the day business is business and it must go on.
This is less about game patches and more about AMD always releasing awful drivers with their new GPUs, it generally takes longer than a year, and usually they end up on par or at best a few percent ahead. And even this has stopped recently. Look at Fury; it's better now than it was at launch but it's below the 580/1060 in some games while the 980ti is trading blows a level higher. My RX570 is still behind the old-ass "broken VRAM" GTX970 in some games.
They don't have to sign something saying that they can't use the branding for competitors products.Honest question, whats the difference between this and GPP?
Honest question, whats the difference between this and GPP?
And if it does very well, expect to see the next version of GPP replace "Gaming brand" with "Arez brand."
Let me get this right: you support businesses breaking the law, doing illegal and immoral things, and without consequences, for a profit?
Honest question, whats the difference between this and GPP?
They can't keep doing that. If Arez takes off, and nVidia just takes over that, there will be legal consequences.
All of this aside, there are other things that I think the market in general would be better off if nVidia would open them up, with G-Sync primarily coming to mind. It sucks that you have to buy a G-Sync monitor or a Freesync monitor, and that neither are compatible with each other, if you want to use the Sync capabilities. nVidia did pioneer this, it was from findings that frame-times affecting the stuttering feeling games could have, even when the FPS was reading fairly high. I think that [H] game reviews at the time was part of discovering this too if I remember right.. But they could have opened it up after a few years, or when freesync came out, so that the Monitors aren't locked into one or the other. For a time, G-Sync was all there was with this technical capability. If they had opened it, it likely would have benefited AMD GPU sales, since back them AMD cards had really bad frame-time issues. Now that AMD can do freesync, they are at least on a more level footing. There isn't much point any longer in keeping it closed, except for the licensing/hardware for the G-Sync tech that the monitor manufacturer has to buy from nVidia. Though the 2 Sync techs work differently, so maybe there is some hardware reason that a Freesync capable monitor might still not be able to do what Gsync does... some Monitor engineer would have to answer that. But nVidia probably wants to keep collecting the $$ they get when Gsync monitors are sold. None of this Sync tech stuff is a part of GPP, but it's one more thing people complain about. This one more rightly so imho, even though in the beginning I can see why they wanted it exclusive. I wonder if AMD could make their GPU's compatible with G-Sync... (lol).
Depends on what you quantify as "good"
These just came out to go along with this. Looks pretty potent for the price paid
There not asking anyone to sign contracts. They have not asked Asus to not release NV powered Arez cards, or perhaps Intel ones down the road.... or tried to make them sign anything in blood saying as such.
They also only use open standards... and any new bits they come up with they make open.
NV is for instance completely 100% free to add Freesync support to their drivers today if they wish. That NV chooses not to is because they don't want you to have a choice... they want you to buy the Gsync product they get kick back ahh I mean licencing fees on.
NV anti choice tactics go well beyond just the GPP.