DAN A4-SFX: The smallest gaming case in the world

Ok, thanks a lot for all your info m8, if i can, i'll try to go with the noctua 2.5 to make a test.(y)
To be honest, i'm really happy with this A12, i think it works on VRM heatsink too,
...but 5 degrees better on your X99 test... tell me that i should try ! ;)

p.s.: on which cooler is the Thermal bundled for sale? Is it much noisier than noctua?
No need to buy heatsink for TY-100, you can order TY-100 directly from Thermalright, just contact them

It is slightly more noisy than the Noctua but it's not too bad
 
So well my first post here but lurking around for longer than I thought I would.

Anyway I decided to build my first pc since when I saw the DAN A4 I thought this is the case I waited for. I helped building a lot of PC's but there weren't any oh so interesting ones out there. Till now. Case is pre-ordered so that's that.


Anyway I have some questions about parts to use and I hope maybe some of you might have some answers. Already dug around the primary threads here, sff forums, german sites, etc. but I found some inconsistent information and so forth so yeah.

It is mainly about the mainboard and the cooltek lp53.

I would prefer the asus z370i over the asrock fatal1ty z370 since the location of the m.2 slot (front vs. back mainly) but some posts claim the cooltek lp53 is incompatbile with the asus z370i while other say it is perfectly fine though cramped. (well the whole case is kinda cramped so yeah....). Does anyone has hands on experience with this situation.

Background: I don't really want to meddle with the mainboard and heatsinks on it all that much.


My build should be looking like that:

1) i7-8700
2) Cooltek LP53 +Noctua A9x14 or the Noctua Nh-L9i
3) Asus z370i (or the Asrock z370)
4) 2x8GB corsair vengeance lpx
5) EVGA 1080 or Zotac 1080 - depends on the price in may/june
6) Corsair SF600 (or maybe a SF450 as it should be enough for the sake of this build and the general use).
7) 1xSamsung 960 EVO 500 GB M.2 for the time being and a 2,5'' SSD if it is free to use at the moment the case is built.

I'm not really fond of placing another m.2 on the back with the ventilation within the case so again... would prefer the asus. Also I'm using asus since a few years so I got kinda used to it.

If you have any recommendations on what to change, feel free to post it. Also thank you in advance.
 
I tried the noctua b9 on my l9i (it looks cool) and as other's have said before, it's no good compared to the stock a9x14 2.5k rpm.

It's a bit louder at 1.6k rpm than the a9 is at 2.5k rpm because of how close it is to the side panel, and it's also 4-5c hotter at medium-high load when both fans are at max rpm.

Running both fans at the same rpm, the a9 is much quieter.
 
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I am thinking of adding a 92mm fan bracket and moving the motherboard 5mm down.

Will this change be included in the v3 of the case?

If so, I'm suddenly more interested.

I ask because I want to be able to fit a second fan in the case - one intake at the bottom-front, and one exhaust at the top-back... or something similar.
 
Woah that 92mm fan above is really a very nice option!! Would prolly provide the much needed cooling especially now that chips are getting more cores and are generally getting hotter.
 
No the top fan option will not be included because there is not enough space for it. Maybe i will make some changes on the case on a future revision to support it.
 
No the top fan option will not be included because there is not enough space for it. Maybe i will make some changes on the case on a future revision to support it.
What about a way to mount an akasa slim 80mm fan? Might be nearly as good as the noctua, it's not pushing air though a heatsink, just some vent holes.
 
No the top fan option will not be included because there is not enough space for it. Maybe i will make some changes on the case on a future revision to support it.
Down fan option works (y)
if you have to make some changes, raise a few millimeters but do not lower
( IMO )
 
so you guys running noctua heatsinks do you get alot of fan noise after closing the side panel? i get alot of wind cutting noise going through the side panel with my cryorig c7. i think it being too close to the side panel. just curious
 
so you guys running noctua heatsinks do you get alot of fan noise after closing the side panel? i get alot of wind cutting noise going through the side panel with my cryorig c7. i think it being too close to the side panel. just curious
I don't think that the L9i is any different noisewise with or without the side panel on. Probably quieter with the panel on I'd say.

People have had good results with the noctua fan on the C7 heatsink though, you could try that too.
 
I don't think that the L9i is any different noisewise with or without the side panel on. Probably quieter with the panel on I'd say.

People have had good results with the noctua fan on the C7 heatsink though, you could try that too.

I actually had 6-8 degree worse temp installing my Noctua, so i switched back to the cryorig,
I dunno why everyone says the cryorig fan is loud, ye ofc its loud if you set it to 100%.
Mine is at 25% and its inaudblie
 
I run the L9i fan on the C7 heatsink. Other tests have shown it is superior to the L9i cooler and I have personally verified it is also superior to the LP53
 
I actually had 6-8 degree worse temp installing my Noctua, so i switched back to the cryorig,
I dunno why everyone says the cryorig fan is loud, ye ofc its loud if you set it to 100%.
Mine is at 25% and its inaudblie
what RPMS does it run at 25%
 
I actually had 6-8 degree worse temp installing my Noctua, so i switched back to the cryorig,
I dunno why everyone says the cryorig fan is loud, ye ofc its loud if you set it to 100%.
Mine is at 25% and its inaudblie

What are your temps like? And what's your CPU/average workload?
 
what RPMS does it run at 25%

The fan is running at approx. 975-990rpms


What are your temps like? And what's your CPU/average workload?

At idle my temp is at 30-35 degree.
webbrowsing = 40 degreee
Gaming e.g. World of warcraft = 50-55 degree. (workload max 25%)

And this is with a constant 25-35% fan speed.


Oh ye my CPU is ofc delidded/relidded with Grizzly Conductunant.
 
The fan is running at approx. 975-990rpms




At idle my temp is at 30-35 degree.
webbrowsing = 40 degreee
Gaming e.g. World of warcraft = 50-55 degree. (workload max 25%)

And this is with a constant 25-35% fan speed.


Oh ye my CPU is ofc delidded/relidded with Grizzly Conductunant.
could be why...im running around 1700-1800rpms
 
The fan is running at approx. 975-990rpms




At idle my temp is at 30-35 degree.
webbrowsing = 40 degreee
Gaming e.g. World of warcraft = 50-55 degree. (workload max 25%)

And this is with a constant 25-35% fan speed.


Oh ye my CPU is ofc delidded/relidded with Grizzly Conductunant.

Thanks! I was also looking for what type of CPU you had; I tried searching the forum back a lot but I couldn't find it anywhere.
 
Hey everyone,

I wanted to get some opinions on whether or not the Asetek 545LC could keep a AMD R7 2700X CPU with a TDP of 105 watts adequately cooled. I looked at the Google sheet posted several pages back and it seems like it might be marginal.
 
Hey everyone,

I wanted to get some opinions on whether or not the Asetek 545LC could keep a AMD R7 2700X CPU with a TDP of 105 watts adequately cooled. I looked at the Google sheet posted several pages back and it seems like it might be marginal.

I run it with an 1800X at stock with a 42C idle and up to 75C on a gaming load (depends on the game; I also have a 1080). I think you'll be fine.
 
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I just wanted to thank everyone here for all the feedback and advice to build my a4 sfx v2!

It was super intimidating at first and ultimately all the components fit like a glove (using 92mm watercooling!).

I can't believe this little case is pushing so much power. I'm completely in love with it. Next up is to get those cool sldr window panels!
 
having filters in this case seems silly when it needs all the help cooling it can get. learn to clean you cases more often.
 
having filters in this case seems silly when it needs all the help cooling it can get. learn to clean you cases more often.

It's not silly, and not to be underestimated. It quite depends on your living environment. In Holland I could've lived without and clean once in a while. Currently I live in Shanghai, and cities like this are very dusty.

My current Ncase M1 I'm very glad with my filters, the amount of dust buildup on the intakes is considerable. Its easy to clean and the internal space remains clean.
I prefer my temps rising by blockage of dust buildup vs. all that dust flying into the case and settling on all the components.

No filtering is my main holdup to get an A4, and keeping an eye on the C4 how/if it will be a feature.
Demciflex on the outside is not a solution for me. At a minimum mounted on the inside.
 
I received the A4-SFX V2 awhile ago and it's just been sitting in the box it came in. I've only opened it up once to marvel at the engineering and size of it, but current financial obligations keep me from utilizing it in a build for the time being. If anyone located in the US who missed out on the V2 is looking for one, please send me a message (only looking to make back what I pledged for it on Kickstarter which is €251.00). I apologize if this is the wrong place for this, I can edit my post immediately if that's the case.
 
I believe that we should never do things that we do not feel like doing!

I repeat, a risk of compromising the riser or worse still the motherboard is,
you have to be very delicate in handling the riser and when you screw the mobo,
you have to be very careful because it will beat slightly on the fan, but I have it mounted and like me also other!
(among the options also put the one that breaks the fan, but that, of the three, would be the least damage!)

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You should try a smaller fan. The omptimun size is a fan with the same dimentions as the heatsink. If not, the hot air keeps trapped inside of the heatsink.
Trust me i have tryed many solutions.
 
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You should try a smaller fan. The omptimun size is a fan with the same dientions as the heatsink. If not, the hot air keeps trapped inside of the heatsink.
Trust me i have tryed many solutions.
Here ...we were talking about the fan under mobo,
...are you talking about the 120 on the cooler?
 
Just change it man, everyone is telling you to :p

I would gladly change it if I had any advantages, belive me!
I tried the 92mm noctua 2.5w, and it sucks.
At 99.99% I'm wrong:
The noise it emits is similar to a flock of crazed birds,
I work on a project from Sunday with 120, and the noisiest thing is definitely the GPU,
but when Wednesday morning I mounted the 92 "premium" the GPU has disappeared, dominated by fan noise!
But I would have borne, if not that with 120: I turn it on and are at 30/35 degrees, then settles on 40, while work travels between 50 and 60/65, does not touch 70 degrees ...
With the 92... I started at 40, I opened the project and while a flock of birds screamed from the case I saw that it was rising above 75 ...
So I can only thank you for your advice, I've also tried, but I'm incapable!
I leave a 0.1% to the fact that I have a different cooler, a different cpu, a different mobo, different ram,
different cable routing, longitude and different latitude, different desk, different ears, etc etc etc
... but I do it only for my self-esteem, just not to say that 100%
I am wrong! :jimlad:

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Nice work Mat, clean.
I like how you rotated the cables, and even the cage you created for the fan is really well done!
You can not rotate the Astek cpu attack and run the tubes under the rams ...true?
In that case you could close the case, but I think you've already tried, otherwise you would have done it for sure!
 
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