Shintai
Supreme [H]ardness
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The never ending corporate welfare programs for the under delivering company.
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Almost...but this kind of crying is making me choose between vacation or a new GPU...You mean the [H] review didn't push you over the edge?
You mean the [H] review didn't push you over the edge?
Crypto miners will ignore the Titan V. With a performance of roughly 140% that of a 1080ti and a price 300%+, ROI is a pipe dream.Is this thing like 5k when it it hits the street? Hopefully the crypto craze has leveled off enough to hopefully see msrp.
Is this thing like 5k when it it hits the street? Hopefully the crypto craze has leveled off enough to hopefully see msrp.
If AMD released a graphics card that was close to the performance of NVIDIA's top offerings, I'd buy it. Unfortunately, that's not the case.
At least buy some AMD popcorn for the show!!
In stock right now. You can only buy them directly from NVIDIA, so no retailer price gouging.I believe you can buy it now for $3k, there was a link in the review
Only Nvidia price gouging.In stock right now. You can only buy them directly from NVIDIA, so no retailer price gouging.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/titan/titan-v/#shop
Maybe some people. If they were that close, AMD would be the clear price/performance wonder and I'd be in that camp.People here will buy Nvidia if it's 1fps more and 10W less and costs $60 more, because fuck you faggots it's nvidia and it's muh superior card.
Even when AMD cards are better, they only gain a few percent of marketshare, because self concious nerds couldn't be possibly seen without an intvidia system build now, could they? When they are equal, people still flock to Nvidia because it's what apple used to be for smartphones. If you didn't have it, you weren't cool.
Maybe some people. If they were that close, AMD would be the clear price/performance wonder and I'd be in that camp.
If they were that close.
...but they're not.
AMD should of gone out of business many years ago. They have had so many life lines thrown to them it's stupid. Yet they keep fucking it up and fail after fail!!
People here will buy Nvidia if it's 1fps more and 10W less and costs $60 more, because fuck you faggots it's nvidia and it's muh superior card.
Even when AMD cards are better, they only gain a few percent of marketshare, because self concious nerds couldn't be possibly seen without an intvidia system build now, could they? When they are equal, people still flock to Nvidia because it's what apple used to be for smartphones. If you didn't have it, you weren't cool.
People here will buy Nvidia if it's 1fps more and 10W less and costs $60 more, because fuck you faggots it's nvidia and it's muh superior card.
Even when AMD cards are better, they only gain a few percent of marketshare, because self concious nerds couldn't be possibly seen without an intvidia system build now, could they? When they are equal, people still flock to Nvidia because it's what apple used to be for smartphones. If you didn't have it, you weren't cool.
I can't comment on those cases, but as this thread is discussing a boycott based on current events, I'm referring to the current product stack.But thing is everyone says that but almost no one puts their money where their mouth is.
I have bought GPUs at least 3x when this situation has arisen. X800XT, 7970 and 290X. Each time bought AMD and guess what, they were neck and neck or better at the time, then as time rolled around they got even better. 7970 stomped the titan for christs sake, I had that bitch running a 35%+ OC and it was a generation ahead! Wasn't much slower than my damn 290X DCUII. 780Ti vs 290X case in point. X800XT vs 6800U same thing.
I wouldn't call the launch of the Zen series processors a failure. If anything I'd say their living in the Athlon XP times. Their stock is worth roughly 6 times what it was worth a couple of years ago.
People here will buy Nvidia if it's 1fps more and 10W less and costs $60 more, because fuck you faggots it's nvidia and it's muh superior card.
Even when AMD cards are better, they only gain a few percent of marketshare, because self concious nerds couldn't be possibly seen without an intvidia system build now, could they? When they are equal, people still flock to Nvidia because it's what apple used to be for smartphones. If you didn't have it, you weren't cool.
If they were that close, I think a lot of people would be looking at AMD cards so they can give NVIDIA the finger for being assholes with their bullshit GPP. In this climate of currency mining, I think gamers would simply go with whatever they could get their hands on first, regardless of brand. Unfortunately, we aren't talking about 1FPS. We are talking about AMD's high end parts barely competing with an old top end NVIDIA card that's been surpassed by newer models at least three times.
Fair call, it's just frustrating to see the same bullshit pan out and the same comments every time.You may have a solid case if AMD is producing a card in the performance tier that is worth buying today, but they don't at the moment, with maybe the exception of Vega 56. Also, devolving into name calling never really helps your argument.
I wish more people were like that but have seen many times in past people shy away because of a brand and some FUD or similar, e.g. 'AMD drivers sux' etc.I buy whatever I can afford at the settings I want to play my games at. Doesn't matter if its Nvidia or AMD. Being cool is the last thing on my mind when I make a hardware purchase or anything really.
Fair call, I'm using those historical examples because even if AMD came out tomorrow with the Navi 666 and it shat all over the titan xyz, people would still buy the titan XYZ because nvidia.I can't comment on those cases, but as this thread is discussing a boycott based on current events, I'm referring to the current product stack.
If they were that close, I think a lot of people would be looking at AMD cards so they can give NVIDIA the finger for being assholes with their bullshit GPP.
I don't believe there are that many people who buy NVIDIA because they are ashamed to have AMD cards in their systems or out of loyalty. I think people who buy prebuilt systems who don't know much about hardware buy NVIDIA because of simple brand recognition just as they continued to buy 3DFX when they weren't top dog anymore. Coasting on brand recognition is something we've seen for several years from one brand or another. It's not enthusiasts who tend to do this as much as the average Joe who simply doesn't know any better. Sure, you always have your hardcore fanbois. However, that could be said for almost anything.
I couldn't give a shit who makes it. If that's AMD, then that's fantastic. I'll buy whatever is the fastest card I can afford at the time I'm ready to buy it.
I will not throw my money away to support an inferior product by a multi billion company. They get my money when they have the tech at the time I am looking to upgrade.
There are too many people who buy Intel/Nvidia without even considering AMD. You see it everyday in build threads where people ask which CPU or GPU they should buy, but specifically ask not to be recommended AMD hardware based on bad experiences in the past, or friends' recommending against it. It's been really obvious since Ryzen's launch, some people are just total brick walls on AMD hardware.Want to help AMD? Feel free to buy the competitive AMD CPUs if they fit your needs. I don't see a compelling reason to buy an AMD GPU and this is from someone who owned 3 generations of AMD/ATI cards before my current Nvidia card.
Otherwise, you can go ahead and buy a Chrysler 200 too because you feel bad for a corporation.
I'm in the Intel/Nvidia camp and have built two Ryzen machines since they launched. Been nothing but impressed with the little buggers for the price.There are too many people who buy Intel/Nvidia without even considering AMD. You see it everyday in build threads where people ask which CPU or GPU they should buy, but specifically ask not to be recommended AMD hardware based on bad experiences in the past, or friends' recommending against it. It's been really obvious since Ryzen's launch, some people are just total brick walls on AMD hardware.
What AMD needs is an "awareness campaign" which comes in the form of an Nvidia boycott since it's more marketable.
Fair call, it's just frustrating to see the same bullshit pan out and the same comments every time.
V56 (was) the best they had bang for buck and it likely was nearly a loss leader, that's why they were harder to find than V64s...
Plenty of people are happy with the 5xx etc. Not everyone is running a 32k 5000fps screen like [H], so outside of us [H] types, plenty of people have no problem with AMD.
It doesn't do anything for AMD bottom line, it's the retailers and middlemen gouging. It does sell them lots of volume and fast though, which is better for the bottom line.which pushes the pricing well above GTX1060, while this is great for AMD bottom line.
Anyone that breaks this issue down to corporate welfare needs to have their head examined.
Capitalism only works when competition is possible, between the initial investment in required infrastructure, navigating patents and existing IP, and scumball tactics, capitalism is quickly becoming a thing of the past. The real question is do we want to preserve a free market by protecting and/or enabling competition, or do we just want to let it die and be replaced by corporatism.