Overwatch League Pro Suspended for Homophobic Insult against Opponent

phobos512 said:
The amount of Neanderthal-like behavior in this thread is staggering. I've got news for you guys, the Neanderthals died out. You're the outcasts of the outcasts and your time has come. Get over yourselves.
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No, the outcasts were trash talking before the posers took interest and started complaining about things they claimed to suddenly love.
 
I cant remember the species but I believe that its bears that engage in what humans would call homosexual behavior.

Its not because they are in lust, its a leadership thing.

The bear that has been voted as leader has the other bears "suck big cock" to show he is still king to his subordinates.

Trash talk takes on the same behavior. Its not a sexual thing. Folks make it so because they are sensitive to the humans that regularly engage in s****n c**k.

Folks who should know dont know the difference. Sex with female war captives isnt about love. It's maybe hate. To the unknowing it only looks like heterosexual intimacy. Trash talk is just that.

In a open supported and sponsored forum, PC has to be adhered to. Cant insult an entire group of people. I just wish that some heavy voiced female said (posted) the same thing and was called on it being a homophobic slur.

Well sir, I love my husband and whats wrong with that?

Now what???
 
Meeho said:
No, it has toxic bitching about behaviour falsely qualified as toxic. As things go mainstream, former bullies and assholes latch on to the now popular thing and ruin it with their rotten personalities. Fuck their snowflake sensibilities. They can go suck a fat cock.

On another note, if cursing goes against the corporate guidelines, fine, whatever, but if they attach various phobias and isms to it, they can go suck a fat cock too.
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Don't cut yourself on that edge.
 
Master_shake_ said:
gaming has always been toxic.

also it's not toxicity. it's just trash talk.

it's part of the community.

don't act like this is new.

and if esports promoters didn't know then fuck them
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Gaming having "always been toxic" and "part of the community" is exactly why they are trying to stamp it out. It's big business now, and having the face of your business sitting on twitch talking about sucking fat cock isn't good for the youth audience, ratings, or sponsors.

Some of you are criminally stupid.
 
Rizen said:
Gaming having "always been toxic" and "part of the community" is exactly why they are trying to stamp it out. It's big business now, and having the face of your business sitting on twitch talking about sucking fat cock isn't good for the youth audience, ratings, or sponsors.

Some of you are criminally stupid.
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good luck.

i wish you the best in your never ending endeavor.
 
I concur that people are way to sensitive these days. Its part of human nature to talk trash, and 'be competitve'. I see no insult other than calling a spade a spade. Hell he didn't even call him a fag, he just infered that's what his competitor would like.

And the funny thing is that most gays trash talk and cat-call much worse than non-gays. Honestly has anybody witnessed a gay person going off on somebody verbally? Its quite a show....
 
I watch a lot of sports on the boob toob and EVERY game there is a spot of dead vocal air because someone was cursing on the field/court or sideline.

NBA players are forever holding their hands over their mouths talking shit to another player.

Some of you folks are delusional if you think video games are the only place this happens.

If you cant grow a pair then at least steal someone else's and sew them on.
 
Rizen said:
Gaming having "always been toxic" and "part of the community" is exactly why they are trying to stamp it out. It's big business now, and having the face of your business sitting on twitch talking about sucking fat cock isn't good for the youth audience, ratings, or sponsors.

Some of you are criminally stupid.
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I don't care about twitch, ratings or sponsors. Gaming never has and never will need them to exist. As for not being good for the youth audience, infantilizing them and making them live in a bubble of your imposed moral virtues and reality shields does more harm than any curse word ever could.
 
Meeho said:
I don't care about twitch, ratings or sponsors. Gaming never has and never will need them to exist. As for not being good for the youth audience, infantilizing them and making them live in a bubble of your imposed moral virtues and reality shields does more harm than any curse word ever could.
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Whether or not you care about it is completely irrelevant. Overwatch has made over $1b in revenue, and Blizzard cares about the game and it's reputation, not some random nobody on HardForum. When I said "good for the youth audience" I was referring specifically to attracting younger players, not moralizing the issue. Most parents aren't going to let their young children watch games where people tell each other to suck fat cocks.

It's not 1992 anymore, grow up.
 
Meeho said:
I don't care about twitch, ratings or sponsors. Gaming never has and never will need them to exist. As for not being good for the youth audience, infantilizing them and making them live in a bubble of your imposed moral virtues and reality shields does more harm than any curse word ever could.
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You're in the tiny, tiny minority. They can afford to lose (or never gain) a fan in you. Twitch, Youtube, etc are all huge on the ad revenue and sponsors want in to promote their stuff. For it being a tech site, some of you guys hang on to the "good ol' days" and don't see to the future.
 
...am I the only one that is a bit surprised that -once again - blood and gore takes a back seat to the interpretation of a phrase?

Happened with Janet Jackson also. Show a bit of tit flesh during a gridiron brawl and people lose their minds.

Now, if men are talking, a certain group owns everything gential. Gotta stop the overreaching phobias. In a FPS where folks are out to kill each other, there will be things unkind said. Period!

Soon calling someone an asshole will also be homophobic. Folks have to take the time to see if gay or homosexuality was implied or not. And its possible that unless its especially targeted with hatefull intent off the playfield, some of it goes with the shoot-to-kill territory.

I dont want to simplify the issue, but regular guys sometimes do f****d up things to each other as...........friends. Big brother, little brother s**t. I can call him a shithead but if you do we have a problem.

Ever seen someone passed out from too much to drink and wakes up with lipstick painted all over his face? His friends did this shit. They hang out while lipstick face is waiting for his turn.

Gotta take how folks play these games into consideration. Cant G-rate these games. Stupid S**T will happen at times in the playfield, needs monitoring not suspensions.
 
Sometimes I get the feeling I'm the only person in here who doesn't enjoy trashtalking or get trashtalked but if it happens online I simply ignore it and focus on the game, people, especially americans can't seem to "handle" a guy not shittalking back and I kinda find that amusing sometimes.
 
Rizen said:
Whether or not you care about it is completely irrelevant. Overwatch has made over $1b in revenue, and Blizzard cares about the game and it's reputation, not some random nobody on HardForum. When I said "good for the youth audience" I was referring specifically to attracting younger players, not moralizing the issue. Most parents aren't going to let their young children watch games where people tell each other to suck fat cocks.
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Most parents today are raising spoiled brats that are incapable of adult life.
It's not 1992 anymore, grow up.
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Funny you should say that, as it's been a steady fall in many areas since 1992. Parenting and well adjusted kids included.

Jehuty said:
You're in the tiny, tiny minority. They can afford to lose (or never gain) a fan in you. Twitch, Youtube, etc are all huge on the ad revenue and sponsors want in to promote their stuff. For it being a tech site, some of you guys hang on to the "good ol' days" and don't see to the future.
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What future is that? Corporate sterilization of the Internet? True, I don't care for it much at all and I'll call out shit as I see it.

RPGWiZaRD said:
Sometimes I get the feeling I'm the only person in here who doesn't enjoy trashtalking or get trashtalked but if it happens online I simply ignore it and focus on the game, people, especially americans can't seem to "handle" a guy not shittalking back and I kinda find that amusing sometimes.
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It's an overblown problem in both quantity and quality. Besides, the more you receive it, the more you're probably owning the oponent. Or it's just friendly banter.
 
Meeho said:
What future is that? Corporate sterilization of the Internet? True, I don't care for it much at all and I'll call out shit as I see it.
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What? Then you should also quit NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB and so on.

Wait, hold on. I think most of us have been having different conversations here.

Shit talking your opponents in a game in the comfort of your home (or a home anyway) is totally fine, and while I don't agree with it, it should be well within your right to do so, even if it just makes you disliked in the community.

Professional eSports (which OW League is part of) are trying to emulate the code of conduct seen in the previously mentioned sports leagues. Players get fined and suspended if they go out of line. They may say it in the field, sure, but as soon as it becomes public knowledge that a person said something toxic and / or discriminatory, there is hell to pay.
 
Didn't they do a southpark episode on the ridiculousness of labels and its supposed impact on us a collective whole, that in short, there will always be labels, and also always be people being sensitive who attach a stigma to everything that even if it doesn't really offend them, they have to object, as its part of their 'moral obligation' to try to police everyone and everything for their own good so that we all follow along a accepted social norm of sorts???
 
Jehuty said:
Professional eSports (which OW League is part of) are trying to emulate the code of conduct seen in the previously mentioned sports leagues. Players get fined and suspended if they go out of line. They may say it in the field, sure, but as soon as it becomes public knowledge that a person said something toxic and / or discriminatory, there is hell to pay.
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I've said from the beginning I'm (semi) fine with forbidding foul language during official events. What I have an issue with is classifying this specific one as homophobic.
 
Chunder said:
There's a lot of toxic masculinity in this thread defending the player's actions..
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I actually find the PC police to be toxic myself. Did this guy speak out when in the spotlight and get backlash, sure did. Just like folks kneeling for the flag got backlash.

Bottom Line: You think differently than another person does. It truly does not make you correct. Many of us banter with our best friends to play around. When out in the open, it should have been filtered because we understand, there are snowflakes out there.
 
Why can't people handle shit talkers? If they say something I find offensive I have options, like stop playing the game with them. Its too bad people are such snowflakes. Although it makes me feel better that there is a large group of the population I'll never have to worry about flipping me shit in RL unless they feel good doing it and running away.
 
Fun thing about taking people's money: you get to play by their rules.

Don't be a dipshit when you're cashing checks.
 
scojer said:
what?
Sure that's immature, but, really? play ANY ONLINE match and people talk like that. That is why if I do play online I mute everyone.
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And that is a shame.

I did the same when I tried out PUGB over the summer. Logged on. Immediately logged off, and figured out how to disable the voice comm before signing back on again.

It's a shame that people can't just play the game and use voice comm for what its intended, not to mic spam and try to troll people using offensive language.


I'm reminded of this comic...
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
And that is a shame.

I did the same when I tried out PUGB over the summer. Logged on. Immediately logged off, and figured out how to disable the voice comm before signing back on again.

It's a shame that people can't just play the game and use voice comm for what its intended, not to mic spam and try to troll people using offensive language.


I'm reminded of this comic...
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I would bet the percentage of annoying assholes in games and SJW types in society is highly corelated and direct result of bad parenting.
 
Meeho said:
I don't understand, though. If I was gay I would indeed want to suck a fat cock. How was it homophobic?
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I'm just saying...
If someone were to be like:
"go nail a hot chick! " does that make them heterophobic?

That's basically the same thing right?

I feel like those who did the banning are projecting their own homophobic tendencies upon others
 
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It's almost like some people don't understand that this happened to a professional that belongs in a professional league. It's not in your mom's basement, not in your buddy's home. It happened in a place that is televised (well, streamed), which actual sponsors and these people are being paid.

The guy that was suspended accepted it and apologized. He took responsibility. He has more class than some of the people here defending him.
 
He should have just sent him a bag of dicks to eat from dicks by mail dot com. A friend of mine sent his boss a bag before he left his job.
 
craigdt said:
I'm just saying...
If someone were to be like:
"go nail a hot chick! " does that make them heterophobic?

That's basically the same thing right?

I feel like those who did the banning are projecting their own homophobic tendencies upon others
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Except no one, not even in the gay community uses that as an insult.

By using 'blow me' and it's analogs as a pejorative it makes it clear the speaker considers it a bad thing which is what makes this homophobic.

Funny the same don't be sensitive, get a thick skin comments are made to women in the work place who get grabbed, called bitches and the like.

The same comments are made to people of color.

Edit, hard to fight the spell check sometimes.
 
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