Tesla Pushes Model 3 Production Target Once Again

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In Q4 of 2017 Tesla barely produced any Model 3's for its 500,000 customers on the waiting list. At that time they said they would be back on track for 5K cars per week by the end of Q1 2018. As of this week they have pushed that production number (WARNING auto play video) to the end of Q2 2018. These delays are really starting to worry investors and Tesla needs to get this car on track quickly. If there's a positive out of this, it's the fact they are slowly but surely ramping up production and they may be able to make that end of Q2 target date. Anyway, I hope they work all of this out so I can get my Tesla pickup in the next 3 or 4 years like Elon promised.

"In the last seven working days of the quarter, we made 793 Model 3s, and in the last few days, we hit a production rate on each of our manufacturing lines that extrapolates to over 1,000 Model 3s per week," the company said in a statement.
That pace of production is still below that of many carmakers. A conventional car factory operating at full speed on two shifts can churn out nearly 1,000 vehicles a day.
 
Tesla not being able to follow through on what they said they would do? I'm shocked. SHOCKED!
 
My cousin got his first one on the 31st.
That is his wife standing next to it.

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Can't wait for mine! Still says I'm in a Nov-Jan time-frame but i'm adding 3 months to what they said so i'm expected Feb-Apr to order plus an extra month for delivery
 
MMitch said:
How is the car ?
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For its target demographic it's the hottest thing. If you "got your phone before you got your car" then this is the target vehicle for you.

Results vary for older generations and rural areas where people can take advantage of the gas savings the most but sadly may lack convenient access to the supercharger network - luckily a shrinking demographic due to heavy investment in growing that network by the company.

So study your needs and decide.

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Wierdo said:
For its target demographic it's the hottest thing. If you got your phone before you got your car then this is the target vehicle for you. Results vary for older generations or less developed states.
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Thanks. I'm waiting to see the AWD option later and hopefully they release another performance package. All in all it does look like a really nice car !
 
MMitch said:
How is the car ?
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Reviews are coming in. Here's an owner of an S and now a 3:
Another with a little too much excitement:

Overall, including older reviews of the pre-production Model 3's, it's an exciting car that is the future.
Doug DeMuro:
 
Its not like they had an established line they are just retooling to update. I think for a startup he has some grandiose goals but they are doing well considering they are tooling for brand new runs.

Remember the other auto manufactures have had established factories and employees.
 
I saw my first Model 3 in person today. I was driving home from work and one was right behind me on the highway. I am guessing they were on a road trip because I don't think anyone outside of California has had them delivered yet.
 
Zepher said:
My cousin got his first one on the 31st.
That is his wife standing next to it.

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I have a reservation, but personally I'm waiting for the AWD version.

I will never again own a vehicle that is not AWD.

That being said, my buying a Tesla will depend hugely on the availability of tax credits. Under current legislation Tesla will be ineligible for them by the time I can get my AWD Model 3, which may force me to request a refund and buy something else (maybe one of those electric Volvo's we keep hearing about).

Probably the only way I'll wind up with a Tesla is if congress changes the electric vehicle tax credit law to allow Tesla to receive them again.

Under normal circumstances I'd say there would be a fat chance that this would happen under this administration, but if it is framed in such a way that current legislation punishes Tesla for being first to market, and now hurts them compared to later, foreign, competitors who are only nbow hitting the market, there is a slight chance the populist protectionist stance of the administration will gain traction on it.

Not holding my breath though.

So, I have a Tesla reservation, but I am like 98% sure that by the time the car I want is available, the lack of a tax credit will mean it is a no-go.
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
I have a reservation, but personally I'm waiting for the AWD version.

I will never again own a vehicle that is not AWD.

That being said, my buying a Tesla will depend hugely on the availability of tax credits. Under current legislation Tesla will be ineligible for them by the time I can get my AWD Model 3, which may force me to request a refund and buy something else (maybe one of those electric Volvo's we keep hearing about).

Probably the only way I'll wind up with a Tesla is if congress changes the electric vehicle tax credit law to allow Tesla to receive them again.

Under normal circumstances I'd say there would be a fat chance that this would happen under this administration, but if it is framed in such a way that current legislation punishes Tesla for being first to market, and now hurts them compared to later, foreign, competitors who are only nbow hitting the market, there is a slight chance the populist protectionist stance of the administration will gain traction on it.

Not holding my breath though.

So, I have a Tesla reservation, but I am like 98% sure that by the time the car I want is available, the lack of a tax credit will mean it is a no-go.
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Yeah was tempted to wait for the AWD as well, but then I decided to move out of WV for a better position. New area I'm going to is warm all year so doesn't make it as much of a selling feature anymore, but I could see it being really effective in the rural snow.

Watch a Tesla Model X all-electric SUV pull a semi truck out of the snow
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https://electrek.co/2018/01/04/tesla-model-x-all-electric-tow-semi-truck-snow/
 
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haste. said:
That's a damn nice garage. If it's not the showroom, what the hell is he getting a model 3 for!? Put a cherry red Ferrari in that bad boy!

(only thing I noticed was the nice garage)
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I am pretty sure that that is the Tesla dealer's showroom where they picked up the car. They already have a Model S and this Model 3 is her car.
He mentioned that the second Model 3 he ordered is a for a friend at work, so I am not sure if he just pre-ordered it for them or if he is buying it for them.
 
I've been seeing multiple 3's in the nearby parking structures at work the past couple weeks, so they are starting to roll out. It's a new model, no one should be surprised the ramp up in production was delayed. Once those kinks are fixed we'll see them everywhere, like I see tons of S's around here.
 
Wierdo said:
Yeah was tempted to wait for the AWD as well, but then I decided to move out of WV for a better position. New area I'm going to is warm all year so doesn't make it as much of a selling feature anymore, but I could see it being really effective in the rural snow.


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Yeah, if I lived somewhere where it didnt regularly freeze over I wouldn't care, but the AWD is fantastic in the snow.

Don't get me wrong. I know the reality. AWD is all wheel go, ALL cars have all wheel stop, but it is damn convenient, especially when paired with a set of good snow tires. My Volvo S80 T6 AWD is unstoppable in the snow with winter tires.

The Volvo is my first AWD car, and now having experienced, I can't imagine not having it in the winter, especially after this bombogenesis bullshit.

We got about 16" according to the news, but the drifts due to the high winds were much MUCH deeper.


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Maybe, just maybe, they shouldn't have laid off so many damn employees? And/or they should try and work a tad on fixing the moral issue.

The timeline seems to match up a tad here. They announce a massive layoff, citing performance - it's speculated that these were pay level based layoffs - and then their production grinds to a halt.
 
look at all that snow.

I'm enjoying the 75 degree weather in Cali republic. Short sleeve weather.
 
Too bad not so many people
Zarathustra[H] said:
Yeah, if I lived somewhere where it didnt regularly freeze over I wouldn't care, but the AWD is fantastic in the snow.

Don't get me wrong. I know the reality. AWD is all wheel go, ALL cars have all wheel stop, but it is damn convenient, especially when paired with a set of good snow tires. My Volvo S80 T6 AWD is unstoppable in the snow with winter tires.

The Volvo is my first AWD car, and now having experienced, I can't imagine not having it in the winter, especially after this bombogenesis bullshit.

We got about 16" according to the news, but the drifts due to the high winds were much MUCH deeper.
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Live in VT and wouldn't even look at a car unless it has AWD. You just can't get up a significant number of hills in the winter time with snow and ice that I need access to on a regular basis so unless i'm driving a truck, it's gotta have AWD. If I lived in Texas or Florida; I wouldn't give a shit.
 
oldmanbal said:
Live in VT and wouldn't even look at a car unless it has AWD. You just can't get up a significant number of hills in the winter time with snow and ice that I need access to on a regular basis so unless i'm driving a truck, it's gotta have AWD. If I lived in Texas or Florida; I wouldn't give a shit.
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My take is as follows.

If I could have only one, either snow/winter tires or AWD, I'd choose snow tires every time.

On my FWD Saab with Hakkapeliitta's I used to climb hills in the snow with AWD SUV's stuck or in the ditches to the left and to the the right of me all the time.

Combining the two is great, and makes you unstoppable, but a proper set of winter tires on a FWD or even RWD car is much, much MUCH better than an AWD car with all seasons.
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
That is pretty cool btw, but presumably that truck is moving mostly under it's own power, it just needed a tiny bit of extra pull to bring it across the finish line.
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Yeah it's just fun seeing it, thought it was funny.

Decent glimpse of how snappy the traction control is in electric motors, could be nice in a future tow truck some day imho.
 
Montu said:
These delays are really starting to worry investors and Tesla needs to get this car on track quickly.
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As it turns out, the stock price has barely moved since the numbers were released, which means investors aren't worried at all. They basically yawned.
 
I would hope with brand new all weathers they would at least perform somewhat acceptable (as noted in the video), but anyone who's put a year or so of driving on those would be foolish to use them in the snow / ice like that.

The appeal of a traditional RWD in any climate that gets cold enough for ice / snow, or frequently rains (like the PNW) is foreign to me, but a Tesla's weight distribution is anything but traditional. I don't think you can completely apply the normal RWD characteristics to it versus a FWD only. That said, you're spending the money for one, why not wait for AWD? 9 months - a year isn't that long, and you can let them work most of the production kinks / lemons out that first generation runs will always have.
 
DarkStryke said:
That said, you're spending the money for one, why not wait for AWD? 9 months - a year isn't that long, and you can let them work most of the production kinks / lemons out that first generation runs will always have.
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True... I'd consider waiting if they had a firm timeframe for AWD and a price, if the timeframe really wasn't too much longer. Otherwise when the invite to order comes, I'm gunna order most likely.
 
Pretty good video, except...

All season tires != All weather tires.

All weather tires are in fact rated for winter use, a detail they fudged. They probably actually had all season tires, as they mentioned in the beginning. Otherwise, useful vid! :)


EODetroit said:
I've been convinced that it isn't needed for this car:

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BloodyIron said:
Pretty good video, except...

All season tires != All weather tires.

All weather tires are in fact rated for winter use, a detail they fudged. They probably actually had all season tires, as they mentioned in the beginning. Otherwise, useful vid! :)
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In the video they say they're using the stock tires. Which are, via: https://tsportline.com/blogs/owners-guide/the-tesla-model-3-wheel-guide

Tire Spec: Continental ProContact RX, 235/40-19, 96W

Which is this: http://www.continentaltire.com/product/contiprocontact-23540r19-96v

Which are All Season.
 
Yup, except in the video they refer to them as All Seasons AND All Weathers. In fact they verbally refer to them as All Weathers more often than All Seasons. I just wanted to point out they are not the same is all. ;)

EODetroit said:
In the video they say they're using the stock tires. Which are, via: https://tsportline.com/blogs/owners-guide/the-tesla-model-3-wheel-guide

Tire Spec: Continental ProContact RX, 235/40-19, 96W

Which is this: http://www.continentaltire.com/product/contiprocontact-23540r19-96v

Which are All Season.
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BloodyIron said:
Pretty good video, except...

All season tires != All weather tires.

All weather tires are in fact rated for winter use, a detail they fudged. They probably actually had all season tires, as they mentioned in the beginning. Otherwise, useful vid! :)
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There's no such thing as tires that work well in all seasons/weather.

If you want to drive in the snow and ice you should use proper winter tires or stay home.
 
You have no idea what All Weather tires are about, they are LITERALLY rated for Winter driving, and All SEASON tires are not. Go look it up, you're clearly ignorant of what they actually are.

Zarathustra[H] said:
There's no such thing as tires that work well in all seasons/weather.

If you want to drive in the snow and ice you should use proper winter tires or stay home.
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BloodyIron said:
You have no idea what All Weather tires are about, they are LITERALLY rated for Winter driving, and All SEASON tires are not. Go look it up, you're clearly ignorant of what they actually are.
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You're a bit harsh... to be fair, some place (like here, in Quebec) requires Winter tire, it's the law.
I did some googling on those all weather tires and they have lesser rating than Winter tires for Ice/Snow. He made is point and if you think all weather is enough fine... but not everyone think the same...
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
Probably the only way I'll wind up with a Tesla is if congress changes the electric vehicle tax credit law to allow Tesla to receive them again.
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You better hope the midterms swing waaaay towards the D's if you think that's going to happen anytime soon.
 
Verge said:
You better hope the midterms swing waaaay towards the D's if you think that's going to happen anytime soon.
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Well, the protectionist bent of the current administration could help, once he finds out the government is handing out tax credits to buyers of foreign models but not the biggest domestic manufacturer, but you are probably right.
 
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