Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus

Archaea said:
Someone pointed out on another forum that the character models were much better in New Order.
I definitely agree.
I wonder what happened?
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I think every single thing about The New Order was better. Story, characters, settings, weapons, menu's/UI, etc.

If TNO got a 9/10 from me I'd give TNC a 5/10 at best. Considering that it was the same developer and publisher and the game got worse (i.e. mechanics like stealth are basically broken compared to TNO) I don't get what happened in any of this. It wasn't even until Roswell that I felt the game was even "alright" and then it peaked shortly after and started going downhill again.

There were some decent story moments, don't get me wrong, but overall the game wasn't really that good and I can't help but be blind to why people think it is.

Plus, Grace, fuck that bitch. Worse videogame character ever that I've seen. She was just as bad as the Nazi's.
 
zamardii12 said:
Nobody has yet to answer me so i'll try again. I am curious if anyone else has these issues...

  1. Muffled sounding sound effects. They don't sound as crisp as they should be.
  2. Screen tearing no matter what I do whether in Nvidia control panel setting VSync, or in-game I still get screen tearing.
  3. Large horizontal black lines through ALL cutscenes
  4. fucked-up skybox textures missing
I am on the latest Nvidia drivers on a brand new install of Windows 10 Pro.
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I get occasional screen tearing unless vsync is on....but vsync sorta drops my performance so I deal with the tearing
 
Mut1ny said:
I think every single thing about The New Order was better. Story, characters, settings, weapons, menu's/UI, etc.

If TNO got a 9/10 from me I'd give TNC a 5/10 at best. Considering that it was the same developer and publisher and the game got worse (i.e. mechanics like stealth are basically broken compared to TNO) I don't get what happened in any of this. It wasn't even until Roswell that I felt the game was even "alright" and then it peaked shortly after and started going downhill again.

There were some decent story moments, don't get me wrong, but overall the game wasn't really that good and I can't help but be blind to why people think it is.

Plus, Grace, fuck that bitch. Worse videogame character ever that I've seen. She was just as bad as the Nazi's.
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Unfortunately the more i've played the more I agree. There are things i've really liked about this new game. The graphics are stunning in some areas, and I liked some of the gameplay additions you get half way through the game.

However - A lot of the actual locations you visit feel bland compared to New Order or even Old Blood. So much of the map design feels a lot lazier.

Finally, while the game is difficult the AI does feel worse for some reason. The AI will stack up almost every time. I don't recall that happening in New Order.

The story and everything else i'm generally good with though. Ultimately the crap map design is what really ruins things. All of New York is forgetable and wasn't fun to play, and i'm generally feeling the same way about New Orleans. Just dreary and generally not fun.

The prisons/castles/villages in New Order made for funner gameplay even if the locations themselves are a bit over used at this point. Of course new order also had awesome areas that were thrown at the player out of no where like the big bridge or the moon base. This game sort of has similar things, but it's just not executed as good. You're stuck slogging around in the same looking collapsed buildings / rubble most of the time.

As for the graphical quality of the models.. Not sure. Ana definately looks worse, but some of the others like Fergus or Max Haus look better.
 
zamardii12 said:
Nobody has yet to answer me so i'll try again. I am curious if anyone else has these issues...

  1. Muffled sounding sound effects. They don't sound as crisp as they should be.
  2. Screen tearing no matter what I do whether in Nvidia control panel setting VSync, or in-game I still get screen tearing.
  3. Large horizontal black lines through ALL cutscenes
  4. fucked-up skybox textures missing
I am on the latest Nvidia drivers on a brand new install of Windows 10 Pro.
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First of all try the previous Nvidia driver, it resolved all video related issues for me.

1. Using a Creative Zx card, the game sounds good to me.
2. Im on a gsync monitor, so i turn off all vsync. No tearing.
3. Try the previous driver.
4. Try the previous driver.
 
Archaea said:
Someone pointed out on another forum that the character models were much better in New Order.
I definitely agree.
I wonder what happened?

left New Order Anna.
right Collosus Anna

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Lest you forget --here is a cinematic with Anna from the New Order game. New order had way better models. Anyone read why this is? Is it setting we need to flip? I noticed the character models were clunky from the very beginning - but it's forgivable because the environments are so good. I guess I didn't realize how bad they were compared to the 2014 models until you see them side by side.
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Yeah, that difference is pretty pronounced. It's odd, but I find a LOT of games / developers either put a lot of effort into characters looking good at the expense of the game world, or they put a lot of effort into the game world at the expense of the characters. Only rarely do we see all of that come together perfectly. id has usually made better worlds than characters (well at least humans, their monsters are typically great). Machine Games seemed to have got it mostly right with TNO and TOB. Interesting that this happened with this game. I still haven't gotten to play it yet though, so maybe as someone else mentioned it's not all that bad. Just based on videos that I've seen, it seems that some characters look pretty good.
 
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J3RK said:
Interesting that this happened with this game.
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This line of logic could, sadly, apply to a lot more in this game though. Like I said above...for this being the original developer it makes no sense why things have taken such a far back seat.

It's like Bioshock. Bioshock 1 I thought was amazing...Bioshock 2, different dev, but still alright...but then Infinite came out, same dev as the first one, except it wasn't NEARLY as good as Bioshock. Graphics weren't really that much better but outside that the 1st, I thought, did everything else better.

Yeah, TNC is a disappointment. But not because it wasn't BETTER than it's predecessor...but because it's worse and is barely even a decent "game".
 
zamardii12 said:
Nobody has yet to answer me so i'll try again. I am curious if anyone else has these issues...

  1. Muffled sounding sound effects. They don't sound as crisp as they should be.
  2. Screen tearing no matter what I do whether in Nvidia control panel setting VSync, or in-game I still get screen tearing.
  3. Large horizontal black lines through ALL cutscenes
  4. fucked-up skybox textures missing
I am on the latest Nvidia drivers on a brand new install of Windows 10 Pro.
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I've noticed #1 and #4...have not seen #2 or #3, although I don't use VSync anyway because I have GSync.

I am on a Sound Blaster Z so I don't think it's an onboard audio issue for #1. It kinda doesn't sound like there's something broken with the sound, just that the sound samples for guns and whatnot are really weak.
 
Mut1ny said:
Yeah, TNC is a disappointment. But not because it wasn't BETTER than it's predecessor...but because it's worse and is barely even a decent "game".
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I haven't read negative commentary to that degree by anyone else in this thread - apart from yours.
The game is exceptional - by nearly all accounts - professional reviewers and casual game players alike
 
Archaea said:
I haven't read negative commentary to that degree by anyone else in this thread - apart from yours.
The game is exceptional - by nearly all accounts - professional reviewers and casual game players alike
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Exceptional? Compared to what? I had someone agree with me, in length, just above.
 
zamardii12 said:
Nobody has yet to answer me so i'll try again. I am curious if anyone else has these issues...

  1. Muffled sounding sound effects. They don't sound as crisp as they should be.
  2. Screen tearing no matter what I do whether in Nvidia control panel setting VSync, or in-game I still get screen tearing.
  3. Large horizontal black lines through ALL cutscenes
  4. fucked-up skybox textures missing
I am on the latest Nvidia drivers on a brand new install of Windows 10 Pro.
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I might have previously answered #1, anyway.

1. Experienced muffled sounds once getting near some kind of breakable object, none since
2. I notice some tearing. I typically force Fast Sync via NV CP, set Wolf2 to use application default and am using Adaptive in-game setting, still think I see some tearing, not really noticeable though
3. No
4. Yes, my skybox texture is often repeating at some points
 
The dumb ass mouse sensitivity being reset every time i launch is truly annoying.....fucking jackass dev's
 
Man this game is sorta starting to piss me off with the artificial "difficulty"...really just some frustrating parts where you have to camp in a corner and let enemies come to you, and abuse quicksave.

Also, why is something like this a thing:

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Why does the board on the left look okay(ish) and the one one the right look like absolute shit? There are a ton of really inconsistently-bad textures in this game.
 
Mut1ny said:
I think every single thing about The New Order was better. Story, characters, settings, weapons, menu's/UI, etc.

If TNO got a 9/10 from me I'd give TNC a 5/10 at best. Considering that it was the same developer and publisher and the game got worse (i.e. mechanics like stealth are basically broken compared to TNO) I don't get what happened in any of this. It wasn't even until Roswell that I felt the game was even "alright" and then it peaked shortly after and started going downhill again.

There were some decent story moments, don't get me wrong, but overall the game wasn't really that good and I can't help but be blind to why people think it is.

Plus, Grace, fuck that bitch. Worse videogame character ever that I've seen. She was just as bad as the Nazi's.
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Yea i dont enjoy the hole political bias the devs put into the game....But yea that was one annoying bitch! I also cant help but think New order had a few levels that was way more fantastic to look at. AMD cards performance is absolute shit with opengl in new order...i might have to use an nvidia card to play it again lol But i cant complain with Vulkan performance...At least we AMD owners can get decent performance in this one. I would love to replay new order in Vulkan!
 
We'll see, nothing pre-set to download as of yet, I'll be looking later, though.
 
Update coming through...


Notes:


Hey all,

The newest update for Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus will be arriving on Steam November 7 at 10am ET. Here are the release notes for the latest patch:

Features
  • Freedom Chronicles Episode Zero
    - Available for pre-order customers who redeemed codes
  • Vault unlocked!
    - 10 new combat simulations
    - Playable from Main Menu or in Evas Hammer
    - Requires progression to Chapter 2
  • Leaderboard functionality: compete with your friends for the highest score!

PC Fixes
  • Improved stability on NVIDIA 10-series GPUs
  • Async compute temporarily disabled until driver fix available
  • Forced driver update on driver detect warning message can now be manually bypassed
  • Improved Win 10 stability on supported NVIDIA GPUs when launching at any resolution other than 4K when DPI scaling is set to 175% 4K monitor
  • Improved Win 10 stability on supported NVIDIA GPUs when resolution is changed to 4K while DPI scaling is set to 125% or 150%
  • Fixed “zoomed in brightness menu” issue on 4K monitors (when DPI scaling was set to greater than 100%)
  • Skybox fixes

New FAQ items for issues introduced w/the November 6 Patch (Arriving at 10am ET on 11/7):
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SPOILERS! : http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-11-07-wolfenstein-2s-first-big-update-opens-the-vault
 
I completed the game over the weekend. I enjoyed it quite a lot. Not as much as New Order, but still damn good and I liked a lot of the new characters and sequences. Between the CDkeys price and the GMG VIP discount on the Season Pass, I got the game with DLC for under $60. So, no real complaints. Enough content to satisfy me and when was the last time you got to shoot the Klan?
 
That_Sound_Guy said:
Side note - I'll get crap for this: But it still can't separate my mind from Blaso knowing so much german. In New Order he completely understodd all of Frau's interview questions in the train. In NC, he can understand all the german from the acting scene. As a young American soldier that flew over in a bomber, I find this hard to accept. Petty I know and the story would break if he didn't know it but it's hard to swallow.
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Also, in Old Blood it's reinforced that he can hardly understand, much less speak German. Old Blood's ending sequence ties directly into New Order's opening sequence. So somehow on his 2-hour flight across the English Channel in a cargo plane he picked up a second language.
 
TrailRunner said:
Also, in Old Blood it's reinforced that he can hardly understand, much less speak German. Old Blood's ending sequence ties directly into New Order's opening sequence. So somehow on his 2-hour flight across the English Channel in a cargo plane he picked up a second language.
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Umm... Fergus taught him on the plane ride. duh!! :rolleyes:
 
TrailRunner said:
Also, in Old Blood it's reinforced that he can hardly understand, much less speak German. Old Blood's ending sequence ties directly into New Order's opening sequence. So somehow on his 2-hour flight across the English Channel in a cargo plane he picked up a second language.
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Wait a second.

In new order there is the opening level that takes place in 1946, then suddenly he's in a near vegetable state for 20 years. The whole time he's in that hospital he's awake and conscious and he's hearing German and English. IIRC he's even narrating the scene which implies he's conscious but doesn't have full motor control over his body. Anna may even have taught him some German during this time frame. Then he becomes lucid and snaps out of his mental state and regains control over his body. It's at this point he begins interacting with people, and we don't know exactly how much time passes there before he sets off. It could have been weeks...months... All plenty of time to learn some basic German.

Later in the game he's housed in the rebel base for some time also between missions. You aren't given a clear time frame there either. It could have been more weeks or months to learn some more German.
 
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Episode 0 was okay. I can see they are going to get the mileage they wanted out of the DLC: more levels, focusing on more gameplay. I didn't choose the ram or legs upgrade in my first playthrough so it was interesting enough to see those tech skills.

I will say that none of the shortcomings of the main game are addressed: you'll still take tons of damage and not have a good sense of health/armor remaining, and it's possible to stealth cheese your way through most areas.
 
CaptNumbNutz said:
Wait a second.

In new order there is the opening level that takes place in 1946, then suddenly he's in a near vegetable state for 20 years. The whole time he's in that hospital he's awake and conscious and he's hearing German and English. IIRC he's even narrating the scene which implies he's conscious but doesn't have full motor control over his body. Anna may even have taught him some German during this time frame. Then he becomes lucid and snaps out of his mental state and regains control over his body. It's at this point he begins interacting with people, and we don't know exactly how much time passes there before he sets off. It could have been weeks...months... All plenty of time to learn some basic German.

Later in the game he's housed in the rebel base for some time also between missions. You aren't given a clear time frame there either. It could have been more weeks or months to learn some more German.
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Nice breakdown.

Aside from that... it's a game. :D So, you know, we should let some things slide anyway. That said, I think you're correct. Plenty of time and ways for him to pick up the German. It's actually a commonly used theme in British TV. "I picked up a little German during the war." I hear that line a lot. (watch a lot of mystery stuff with my wife) Also, once you have some of the basics, and are exposed to a language in context, maybe you can't speak it well, but you can certainly start to understand a bit. With longer exposure, speaking comes a bit more naturally too.
 
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ghostwich said:
and it's possible to stealth cheese your way through most areas.
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Is this true before you have your stealth/sneaking contraption? I didn't choose that one but I know that otherwise stealth in this game was a bitch compared to the first. Very unforgiving and felt cheaper/almost broken to me.
 
Mut1ny said:
Is this true before you have your stealth/sneaking contraption? I didn't choose that one but I know that otherwise stealth in this game was a bitch compared to the first. Very unforgiving and felt cheaper/almost broken to me.
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For the most part, yeah...I was able to stealth through a lot of it. For whatever reason (maybe it's a perk I unlocked?) I have some sort of slowdown mechanic just before I get noticed, which gives you a chance to silently take the guy out - kinda like MGSV. I didn't notice it until after I got the sneaking suit thing, but I don't think it's a function of that.

I agree that stealth is a bit funky, though - I end up having to reload a quicksave because for whatever reason a guy noticed me when he shouldn't have.
 
J3RK said:
Nice breakdown.

Aside from that... it's a game. :D So, you know, we should let some things slide anyway. That said, I think you're correct. Plenty of time and ways for him to pick up the German. It's actually a commonly used theme in British TV. "I picked up a little German during the war." I hear that line a lot. (watch a lot of mystery stuff with my wife) Also, once you have some of the basics, and are exposed to a language in context, maybe you can't speak it well, but you can certainly start to understand a bit. With longer exposure, speaking comes a bit more naturally too.
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They explain in Old Blood that he knew german, it's just terrible.
 
ghostwich said:
I mean... realism... video games...
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Yes one thing I insist upon in my games about 1 man that kills the entire nazi military almost singlehandedly and uses magic gems to stop them from creating an army of demon powered cyborgs from another dimension, is realism. :D
 
Ill be honest from a graphics perspective this game would not even make into my top 10 list...Its good but not great! I doubt it will make it into [H] card reviews for to long. I actually got a bit board last night thinking it was really Meh. My rating is going down to at least a 7 really from being mediocre.
 
The AI is terrible. Not a fan of the level design. The sound is wtf? confusing to me. I can't tell where people are at all. I am not playing the game either. Waste of money so far. I completed the prior two games fairly quickly and enjoyed both of them. This one is boring or just pisses me off. Not sure which yet.

I really, really love blasting nazis though. That part is still good.
 
Yeah, I have to agree...this game is alright but the more I play it the more annoying shit I notice.
 
spaceman said:
The AI is terrible. Not a fan of the level design. The sound is wtf? confusing to me. I can't tell where people are at all. I am not playing the game either. Waste of money so far. I completed the prior two games fairly quickly and enjoyed both of them. This one is boring or just pisses me off. Not sure which yet.

I really, really love blasting nazis though. That part is still good.
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It's cause the game just kinda sucks IMO. Nothing against the franchise but as I said earlier I think it's frustrating because it's a big "wtf did ya'll do?" when I look at the dev's. They've made four games. Three being Wolfenstein games. One, the latest, the one that should be the greatest, is arguably the worse. And not just the worst in the series, but to me not even that good of a game in general.

I think your frustration comes from a whole slew of things piling up that make no sense. Why is Anna fighting when she's pregnant with twins? She could die at any moment and lose three people...

Anyways I'll stop...was a big disappointment for me and I could rage on and on...
 
The expectations were high, I think, after TNO. TOB kind of was a collective "meh" (I liked it though!) but then again we choose to remember the better parts of past experiences.

Mut1ny said:
Is this true before you have your stealth/sneaking contraption? I didn't choose that one but I know that otherwise stealth in this game was a bitch compared to the first. Very unforgiving and felt cheaper/almost broken to me.
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MavericK said:
For the most part, yeah...I was able to stealth through a lot of it. For whatever reason (maybe it's a perk I unlocked?) I have some sort of slowdown mechanic just before I get noticed, which gives you a chance to silently take the guy out - kinda like MGSV. I didn't notice it until after I got the sneaking suit thing, but I don't think it's a function of that.

I agree that stealth is a bit funky, though - I end up having to reload a quicksave because for whatever reason a guy noticed me when he shouldn't have.
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MavericK said:
Yeah, I have to agree...this game is alright but the more I play it the more annoying shit I notice.
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So... I think I play Wolfenstein a bit weird - I stealthed every section with commanders, and almost stealthed the last fight. And I think it was easier in this game over the previous two.

Part of it is because the perks system... was a bit weird. In TNO it felt a little better I think, but in TNC, it was just creating extremes - get good with headshots and stealth? Get a perk that makes it easier to keep doing what you're doing. Hatchet throw kills? Get more hatchets. That kind of thing. I was popping headshots on armored/helmeted enemies from ridiculous distances, and being rewarded with a time slowdown when they noticed me.

After playing episode 0, I found it interesting, but also, flawed in the exact same way the main game was.
 
I'm currently playing this and enjoying it so far.

I do think it's not as good as past games, but shit there's nothing good to play lately so I'll take it.

All I want is a good single player game. As I get older, I have less and less interest in multiplayer. Never cared for open world games (except maybe witcher 3). Don't care for more ass creed, call of modern honor, etc.

I just want half life 3 :(
 
I'm not enjoying this one as much as New Order. It's just too dark.

It's the same reason I only watched the first season of House of Cards, and Man from High Castle. It makes you feel down.

It's somewhat oppressive, it's so dark. The story's interesting, but I agree with the post who said New Order was about hope, and Colossus is not.

I just finished the acting scene and got the part in Hitler's play. What is that about 1/2 or 2/3's through the game (I'm guessing?)
 
Is there any way to NOT trigger those fucking drones? It seems like they will see a tiny sliver of me, in the dark, from about a mile away, and then there's no way to prevent the alarm from sounding. Really fucking frustrated with some of the "stealth" aspects of this game.
 
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