New Intel Core Processor Combines High-Performance CPU with Custom Discrete Graphics from AMD

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Intel announced their new venture with AMD today, the new product, designed by Intel, integrates an Intel® Core™ processor, semi-custom Radeon™ graphics chip, and second generation High Bandwidth Memory (HBM2) into a single package. Anyway, the goal of this partnership is to provide thinner, lighter laptops. Inquiring minds want to know if this is a reaction to Nvidia dominance in Laptops. I kinda think so.


We wanted to find a way to improve this. A way to deliver a stronger combination of performance-level processors and discrete graphics that open the door to even smaller form factors. And, we knew we could do it by combining our Embedded Multi-Die Interconnect Bridge (EMIB) technology with a new power-sharing framework.
 
That's pretty exciting! Would love to see some reviews on this asap when it's available, there's just too much cool stuff included in that neat little package and I really wanna see what that would do to a laptop.
 
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Oh, they finally came through with this.
intel HD graphics development started off strong, and then completely fizzled.

Hopefully Microsoft uses one of these chips in a surface pro. The pixel count in SP4 pushes the limits of what intel HD graphics is capable of.
 
Guaranteed it won't touch a discrete Nvidia chip in performance, and good luck in the drivers staying current......
 
Johan Steyn said:
Yes, where are all the guys that made fun of us when we said this was going to happen?
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To be fair a lot of people said a AMD igpu was going to replace the Intel igpu on the cpu itself. Regardless, I think this is cool and can't wait to see the laptop wars begin.
 
There goes the power efficiency advantage of Intel mobile offerings...
 
Hopefully this makes nvidia more competitive with Volta in laptops.
 
interesting but still not quite like many people expect before. if i understand this correctly this is just intel CPU with some AMD discrete GPU being put together on the same "interposer". also this is count as more as intel product so driver for the GPU will be fully controlled by intel. so how fast is this compared to the likes of GTX1060 (on mobile)?
 
renz496 said:
interesting but still not quite like many people expect before. if i understand this correctly this is just intel CPU with some AMD discrete GPU being put together on the same "interposer". also this is count as more as intel product so driver for the GPU will be fully controlled by intel. so how fast is this compared to the likes of GTX1060 (on mobile)?
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HBM2 is also located on the interposer. Intels manufacturing process combined with AMD GPU tech might be very competitive.
 
In a related story, AMD now has "Rainbow Bridge" which glues an Intel HD Pro on an Epyc CPU.

"It reminds people that EPYC is for servers. We want to keep people from thinking of them as workstation CPUs."
 
This looks like good fun: the fastest and most efficient mobile CPUs with some good graphics grunt. Maybe Intel will have some tricks to tame Vega's power usage!

But in any case, it means smaller laptops, or more battery life out of the same form factors, and that's cool!
 
Microsoft didn’t renew a licensing agreement and they are stuck with Inte HD 630 level graphics on CPUs now. This looks like a good way to push faster graphics packages into their mobile platforms now.
 
thesmokingman said:
2nd that.

Btw, ya think Nvidia is just a little bit nervous at this point?
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Will they? Because this new solution does not mean every laptop OEM going to ditch nvidia GPU altogether. The purpose of this new chip is to pack more performance in slim laptop and nvidia is also pushing similar goal with their MaxQ initiatives though maybe this might end up being better. I think nvidia have what it needs to compete. Unless intel specifically paying OEM not to use nvidia GPU......
 
I doubt seriously if this scares Nvidia. This is Not going to be for high performance laptops but mostly 2 in ones and smaller cheaper laptops. Nvidia is and will remain the choice in performance and gaming machines...
 
maxius said:
a side effect of this is essentially amd backed open initiatives have won vs nvidia's closed source ones (freesync/opencl vs gsync/cuda)
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Sorry, what are you talking about?

G-Sync is still superior (that's why we're getting FreeSync2), CUDA is still what you use if you want to get the most performance out of the fastest compute processors available and thus is actually taught in schools, and what open standard is AMD championing that's actually relevant to the thread?
 
The XBox One X is drawing about 175 watts gaming, and obviously AMD has had success marrying that GPU with their Jaguar cores. The same GPU slapped onto a MUCH more powerful Intel chip.....that's going to be a pretty damn solid machine for thin and light. I would imagine the one package setup dramatically simplifies cooling as well given the maze of heatpipes they have to stuff into get both GPU and CPU covered in a gaming laptop.

Yeah, won't threaten the gigantic 1080 laptops but I could see this easily sliding into the realm of the far more consumer friend 1050/1060 laptop segment and being pretty disruptive. Would also be quite nice for battling Quaddro mobile units.

Win win all around here. For AMD it means they can still make money even if they can't compete 1 to 1 with Intel on the mobile market. Plus, as someone else mentioned.....every XBox, PlayStation, and now a good number of Intel machines are going to be running AMD tech. At some point in time game developers are going to HAVE to take notice and work toward skewing code to optimize on those AMD hardware. For Intel, they stay relevant. Without solid increases in IPC, this is a way to deliver a "faster" experience.

Also wonder....could Intel's fabs be leveraged to make HBM2? I'm not super aware of that end of the chip game.
 
cjcox said:
In a related story, AMD now has "Rainbow Bridge" which glues an Intel HD Pro on an Epyc CPU.

"It reminds people that EPYC is for servers. We want to keep people from thinking of them as workstation CPUs."
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Never understood this way of thinking. Who cares what people use them for as long as they're buying them?
 
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