Google Pixel and Pixel XL 2

Megalith said:
Where do they ship from?
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The only information provided so far is that the order originated from Mountain View, CA where Google is located. We probably won't know where they're coming from until tomorrow.
 
The Pixels will receive the security update against KRACK on November 6th. I wonder when will the rest of Android world would be updated. I wonder if Blackberry will update itself first.
 
exlink said:
Some people reported last year's Pixels shipping from Carol Stream, IL...which is quite literally 20 minutes away from where I live.
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Confirmed shipping from Carol Stream, IL for me. Just got my tracking information with a scheduled delivery for tomorrow.
 
exlink said:
Confirmed shipping from Carol Stream, IL for me. Just got my tracking information with a scheduled delivery for tomorrow.
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Nice! No ship notice for me, yet, so I checked my Visa. The charge that appeared, yesterday, has been changed back to "Pending." Hope that doesn't mean there was a shipping or stock issue. :(
 
Commander Shepard said:
Nice! No ship notice for me, yet, so I checked my Visa. The charge that appeared, yesterday, has been changed back to "Pending." Hope that doesn't mean there was a shipping or stock issue. :(
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Same here. It's still showing that it should ship today, but I've gotten no other information.
 
CHANG3D said:
The Pixels will receive the security update against KRACK on November 6th. I wonder when will the rest of Android world would be updated. I wonder if Blackberry will update itself first.
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if you bought a phone through one of the major providers probably never since they'll use it as an excuse to force you to buy a new phone.. if you bought your own phone you'll get it at the same time since i've gotten every update on my unlocked moto g5 the same time pixel has.
 
google fi sucks which is why i hate my pixel (along with bad battery life after they forced an update that bricked my phone and gave me a crap refurb)...
in wisconsin... you often get minimal service in major suburbs, milwaukee... and 0 reception anywhere in the country side. you have to constantly force network switches and even then you probably will be set to 3g or less.
 
Still no update on mine. I'm going out of town on Friday, so I really, really need this thing to show up Wed/Thurs.
 
Purchased the 5 inch unlocked version with 128gb last week, still no update on mine yet either.

Anybody else planning on using Project Fi with this thing? I've been wanting to ditch T-Mobile for a while now. Speaking of which, anybody want to buy an LG V20? :ROFLMAO:
 
exlink said:
Lots of reviews posted so I won't bother linking them all. All mostly positive, some rag on the screen on the 2 XL.

But something interesting that Google didn't bring up:

Google's first mobile chip is an image processor hidden in the Pixel 2

...and it isn't even activated yet.
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The centerpiece of Pixel Visual Core is the Google-designed Image Processing Unit (IPU)—a fully programmable, domain-specific processor designed from scratch to deliver maximum performance at low power. With eight Google-designed custom cores, each with 512 arithmetic logic units (ALUs), the IPU delivers raw performance of over 3 trillion operations per second on a mobile power budget. Using Pixel Visual Core, HDR+ can run 5x faster and at less than 1/10th the energy than running on the application processor (AP). A key ingredient to the IPU’s efficiency is the tight coupling of hardware and software—our software controls many more details of the hardware than in a typical processor. Handing more control to the software makes the hardware simpler and more efficient, but it also makes the IPU challenging to program using traditional programming languages. To avoid this, the IPU leverages domain-specific languages that ease the burden on both developers and the compiler: Halide for image processing and TensorFlow for machine learning. A custom Google-made compiler optimizes the code for the underlying hardware.
 
Still no news on the status of my order, but (per-Reddit) I'm at least not alone. I figure a Wednesday delivery is out of the question, but as long as I have it by Thursday I'm good. I have no desire to have a Pixel XL sitting on my porch all weekend.
 
Card shows pending and got the shipped email, but tracking number isn't active yet. Out of town next week, so as long as it arrives this week I'm good to go.
 
Why would they submit to Dxomark and post camera reviews before activating their superchip?
 
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Still nothing. Hoping it moves soon.

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Ars said something about a grainy screen, can whoever gets theirs first report back how serious the problem is? Reddit is an echo chamber where any questions remotely negative about the device gets downvoted/hidden into oblivion.

The LG G Flex / Flex 2 genuinely had awful screens with the graininess worse than the Dell U2410 anti glare coating.
 
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Wait. Back up. The Pixel 2 has a custom image processor ASIC that's just dark silicon for the time being?

This sounds cool, no doubt (as image processing speed tends to be a weak point of certain cameras like the Lumia 1020), but if future updates activate it, we can say goodbye to modded Google Camera HDR+ for all the other Snapdragon-based flagships (which doesn't work on other SoCs because it already relies on the Hexagon DSP in Qualcomm's silicon to do the HDR+ processing). So much for "free" camera upgrades on non-Google hardware.

Still, I'm all for speed, no matter the manufacturer. Maybe we can get 960 FPS smartphone cameras across the board, no matter the manufacturer (not just Sony), and for speeds sustained for more than a second. A good ASIC should help with that, and it might get the others to follow suit.
 
NamelessPFG said:
Wait. Back up. The Pixel 2 has a custom image processor ASIC that's just dark silicon for the time being?

This sounds cool, no doubt (as image processing speed tends to be a weak point of certain cameras like the Lumia 1020), but if future updates activate it, we can say goodbye to modded Google Camera HDR+ for all the other Snapdragon-based flagships (which doesn't work on other SoCs because it already relies on the Hexagon DSP in Qualcomm's silicon to do the HDR+ processing). So much for "free" camera upgrades on non-Google hardware.

Still, I'm all for speed, no matter the manufacturer. Maybe we can get 960 FPS smartphone cameras across the board, no matter the manufacturer (not just Sony), and for speeds sustained for more than a second. A good ASIC should help with that, and it might get the others to follow suit.
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I guess that the others will start doing similar things than Google with the software. Huawei definitely does already (I have Honor 8) - it's actually interesting to see how well Mate 10 performs.
 
Was starting to get paranoid with no shipping info, but I woke up to an email saying that it actually shipped yesterday morning. Even better, it is in town right now and scheduled for delivery today! YAY!
Got all my pictures, vids, and MP3's ready to copy over. I haven't been this excited for a new device since the iPhone 4.
 
Just some observations with this phone after playing with it extensively at the Verizon store. One of the knocks on the phone is the relatively "muted" display. If you're expecting a very overly saturated Samsung Amoled look then you're going to be disappointed. By contrast this display does look duller. But here's some advice. Under display and advanced options, there's a "vibrant" toggle that punches up the color some. Still not quite Samsung levels but it does increase the vibrancy. Also under developer settings, try toggling sRBG on and off. Keeping it on will calibrate the display to be far more color accurate however many will not like how dull it looks relatively speaking. Either way, I suggest playing with the settings until you find your personal sweet spot.

Other thoughts, after playing with the phone in person, I think it's quite sexy. Where the rounded glass meets the side of the chassis creates a little lip. It's different but I kind of like it. It might however collect dust over time. We'll see. The speakers are great. So much louder than the first generation pixel. The phone feels incredibly responsive and smooth. Can't wait to get my panda version.
 
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exlink said:
Screen is very nice, but as I mentioned with the Verizon model - the colors are a bit muted to what we're used to with OLED panels. Also, the blue shift definitely is noticeable on white screens in off angle viewing which is so odd for an OLED panel...
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It's LG...

I honestly starting to think the reason why LG can price their phone so low is due to the fact that they just make cheap shit.

Looks like I am either keeping original Pixel or go for Pixel 2 smaller one.
 
shansoft said:
It's LG...

I honestly starting to think the reason why LG can price their phone so low is due to the fact that they just make cheap shit.

Looks like I am either keeping original Pixel or go for Pixel 2 smaller one.
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It's not game breaking by any means...at least not for me...
 
I think I may go screen protector-less in the first time in nearly a decade. These 2.5D glass screens makes placing tempered screen protectors on them such a pain...mine went on perfect but sometimes it'll very slightly unstick from the screen and I hear the adhesive unsticking whenever I press the screen and then lift my finger.
 
The screen on this phone is absolute garbage. Already packed mine up to send back.

Far worse than my $140 Galaxy Alpha.

If you think a severe blue tint from even the slightest off angle is acceptable then you must be blind.

I have no idea how a $1000 phone could ship with a display like this, it is easily the worst of any smartphone I've owned
 
Went to Verizon with a Moto X Pure. Told the salesman I would like to compare the stereo speaker sound quality with the Pixel 2 XL. Salesman was interested to find out too because no one had come in before with another phone to do a comparison test, and his customers only wanted to hear how loud it got.

He picked up the P2XL and launched Tom Petty: Free Fallin' (YouTube). I don't know how far he had turned up the volume but the loudness sounded fine to me, no concern in that regard. However the treble sounded brassy to me and significantly overpowered the bass. When I played the same song on the Moto X Pure the difference in sound quality was immediately noticeable. I commented that the Pure had a fuller sound, the salesman commented that the Pure phone had a richer sound and the P2XL sounded tinny.

Salesman felt that the current cell phone manufacturers were placing less emphasis on speaker sound quality because of the popularity of ear phones. I agreed and lamented that phones with speaker quality like the Axon 7 and the Moto X Pure have yet to surface again.
 
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