DAN A4-SFX: The smallest gaming case in the world

Bit late to the party but I finally got a Dan case last week. The 1080 Ti is fine, 74 degrees at 2000 rpm at 2ghz.

Cpu is the problem though. 7700k is hitting mid 80's during gaming. Noctua n9i made the cpu throttle past 90. Currently using the cryorig c7 with the noctua fan on top.

How did other people cool a 7700k in this case? Saw a 92mm aio but they are out of stock at the moment.

The cpu is delidded with liquid ultra and at 4.5ghz.

I have some questions to your M.2 SSD in the front Port:
  1. What for a M.2 SSD do you use?
  2. What is this for a Heatsink on it?
  3. What are the temps @ load (Gaming)?
Thanks a lot.

For you CPU temperatures: Do you really need the OC for a tiny more MHz? Especially in this case with this small Cooler?
 
I have some questions to your M.2 SSD in the front Port:
  1. What for a M.2 SSD do you use?
  2. What is this for a Heatsink on it?
  3. What are the temps @ load (Gaming)?
Thanks a lot.

For you CPU temperatures: Do you really need the OC for a tiny more MHz? Especially in this case with this small Cooler?

1. It's a Samsung 960 Pro 2TB. 2. I'm using an EK NVME heatsink since the original heatsink (strix z270i) was too big and touching the cryorig cooler.

3. Not sure about temps will need to check later. What software did you used to check NVME temps ? The heatsink was mainly for aesthetics.

I didn't intend to overclock it was what the XMP settings set the ram and clock speed at. Won't really underclock since it doesn't throttle with the cryorig and noctua fan but was just curious if anyone here had any tweaks or suggestions to reduce temperatures.
 
I using HWiNFO64 for this.

Thank you.

On the Manufacturer Page, i see that the Heatsink has a backplate.
Will it fit without Problems on Asus Strix Z270i?
 
I using HWiNFO64 for this.

Thank you.

On the Manufacturer Page, i see that the Heatsink has a backplate.
Will it fit without Problems on Asus Strix Z270i?
It's a tight fit and the screw to secure the m2 drive will be annoying but it works. I can imagine it's a lot cooler than the motherboard sink seeing as it covers both sides of the PCB and has more surface area.

I'll run some tests later when I get back home. I'm pretty curious myself.
 
Bit late to the party but I finally got a Dan case last week. The 1080 Ti is fine, 74 degrees at 2000 rpm at 2ghz.

Cpu is the problem though. 7700k is hitting mid 80's during gaming. Noctua n9i made the cpu throttle past 90. Currently using the cryorig c7 with the noctua fan on top.

How did other people cool a 7700k in this case? Saw a 92mm aio but they are out of stock at the moment.

The cpu is delidded with liquid ultra and at 4.5ghz.

Not yet a DAN owner but already ordered a V2.

I currently have a sentry and using an LP53 + Noctua Fan 92mm slim. I had the same problem on my 4770k in the past, after re-seating the heatsink (couple of times) it finally performed as expected. I had to point the heat-piped upward, instead of sideways or downward.

I would think the 4770k should be hotter than the 7700k. My max temp with prime95 is 81 (70 - 80 when gaming). You should be getting better temps with the LP53.
 
What software do you folk recommend for capturing temps of the various components. I got lucky and wound up getting a v1 yesterday.
 
Bit late to the party but I finally got a Dan case last week. The 1080 Ti is fine, 74 degrees at 2000 rpm at 2ghz.

Cpu is the problem though. 7700k is hitting mid 80's during gaming. Noctua n9i made the cpu throttle past 90. Currently using the cryorig c7 with the noctua fan on top.

How did other people cool a 7700k in this case? Saw a 92mm aio but they are out of stock at the moment.

The cpu is delidded with liquid ultra and at 4.5ghz.

With this mod, the NH-l9i has a better cooling perfomance then the C7 and is MUCH quieter! The mod improves temperatures by 10 degrees!

https://i.imgur.com/hFapFFx.jpg

What software do you folk recommend for capturing temps of the various components. I got lucky and wound up getting a v1 yesterday.

HWInfo 64 is pretty much the best program for that

I would think the 4770k should be hotter than the 7700k. My max temp with prime95 is 81 (70 - 80 when gaming). You should be getting better temps with the LP53.

an i7 7700k definitely gets hotter then a 4770k
 
With this mod, the NH-l9i has a better cooling perfomance then the C7 and is MUCH quieter! The mod improves temperatures by 10 degrees!

https://i.imgur.com/hFapFFx.jpg



HWInfo 64 is pretty much the best program for that



an i7 7700k definitely gets hotter then a 4770k
Was that shroud 3d printed or ordered? Also does HWInfo64 reflect the true Ryzen temps or does it have that odd offset issue?
 
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Okay, after 1 month tinkering around with the case i give up. Small and silent at the same time is just not possible - at least not in the way i want it.


If somebody wants a "used" Dan Case A4 - PM me with an offer. I can't post in the FSFT forum since i don't have 100 posts. :(

Picture of case in use: https://hardforum.com/threads/dan-a4-sfx-the-smallest-gaming-case-in-the-world.1799326/page-303

And ready to sell: http://666kb.com/i/dmoj43kta91c9sogh.jpg

Also got a cable set from cablemod for a Corsair SF450, if somebody is interested.

ATX 150mm
EPS 250mm
PCIe 350mm (8pin)
SATA 100mm+50mm
 
Okay, after 1 month tinkering around with the case i give up. Small and silent at the same time is just not possible - at least not in the way i want it.


If somebody wants a "used" Dan Case A4 - PM me with an offer. I can't post in the FSFT forum since i don't have 100 posts. :(

Picture of case in use: https://hardforum.com/threads/dan-a4-sfx-the-smallest-gaming-case-in-the-world.1799326/page-303

And ready to sell: http://666kb.com/i/dmoj43kta91c9sogh.jpg

Also got a cable set from cablemod for a Corsair SF450, if somebody is interested.

ATX 150mm
EPS 250mm
PCIe 350mm (8pin)
SATA 100mm+50mm
cant PM you. try to PM me if you can
 
Bit late to the party but I finally got a Dan case last week. The 1080 Ti is fine, 74 degrees at 2000 rpm at 2ghz.

Cpu is the problem though. 7700k is hitting mid 80's during gaming. Noctua n9i made the cpu throttle past 90. Currently using the cryorig c7 with the noctua fan on top.

How did other people cool a 7700k in this case? Saw a 92mm aio but they are out of stock at the moment.

The cpu is delidded with liquid ultra and at 4.5ghz.
Single thread performance on the 7700k is so good I don't see the real world benefit from overclocking. I mean the 7700k is practically a factory overclocked 7700. I'd try to undervolt it at stock. Also, some if not all motherboards boost all cores to max frequency instead of just a couple I think. That doesn't improve gaming much or at all, so I would switch that off unless you are using it for some kind of work.
 
Was that shroud 3d printed or ordered? Also does HWInfo64 reflect the true Ryzen temps or does it have that odd offset issue?

Bitspower fan adapter ;) i used a dremel on it

Okay, after 1 month tinkering around with the case i give up. Small and silent at the same time is just not possible - at least not in the way i want it.


If somebody wants a "used" Dan Case A4 - PM me with an offer. I can't post in the FSFT forum since i don't have 100 posts. :(

Picture of case in use: https://hardforum.com/threads/dan-a4-sfx-the-smallest-gaming-case-in-the-world.1799326/page-303

And ready to sell: http://666kb.com/i/dmoj43kta91c9sogh.jpg

Also got a cable set from cablemod for a Corsair SF450, if somebody is interested.

ATX 150mm
EPS 250mm
PCIe 350mm (8pin)
SATA 100mm+50mm

It is possible...Seems u are just buying the wrong Hardware without research

In my silent Mode,my 1230v3 is in pubg @70 degrees with the nh-l9i and the Fan @1200rpm! Msi 1070 Quick Silver at 63-65 degrees and 1000-1100 RPM.
 
It is possible...Seems u are just buying the wrong Hardware without research

Well, with prices for graphic cards during summer i had not much possibilities. CPU is not the problem, i get the same values with my i5-7600 + l9i. The ASUS STRIX 1070 OC on the other hand is a PITA with a hell of noise curve. :/
 
Hey there everyone.

I've been scouring this thread and other sites trying to find out if Zotac's new 1080 TI Mini is compatible with the Dan Case, but have had no such luck finding an answer. Obviously in this case (no pun intended) i'm more concerned with the width of the card, not the length. Anyone have any idea whether or not this card is compatible? Zotac claims on their site that the Mini is about 1.61 inches thick, and FE cards are about 1.39 inches thick
 
Hey there everyone.

I've been scouring this thread and other sites trying to find out if Zotac's new 1080 TI Mini is compatible with the Dan Case, but have had no such luck finding an answer. Obviously in this case (no pun intended) i'm more concerned with the width of the card, not the length. Anyone have any idea whether or not this card is compatible? Zotac claims on their site that the Mini is about 1.61 inches thick, and FE cards are about 1.39 inches thick

on Dan's own website ( https://www.dan-cases.com/dana4_spec.html) it says that card within the folowing specs should fit:

Without backplate: 40 mm
Including backplate: 45 mm

the Zotac is 43,5mm so my guess would be: yes, it should fit.
 
Well, with prices for graphic cards during summer i had not much possibilities. CPU is not the problem, i get the same values with my i5-7600 + l9i. The ASUS STRIX 1070 OC on the other hand is a PITA with a hell of noise curve. :/

Well dont blame the case... the Asus Strix cooler is just one of the loudest with his fan curve... its even louder then the cheapest 1070 ( KFA GTX 1070) ! But with undervolting the card + custom fan curve you should be able to get that card silent

Hey there everyone.

I've been scouring this thread and other sites trying to find out if Zotac's new 1080 TI Mini is compatible with the Dan Case, but have had no such luck finding an answer. Obviously in this case (no pun intended) i'm more concerned with the width of the card, not the length. Anyone have any idea whether or not this card is compatible? Zotac claims on their site that the Mini is about 1.61 inches thick, and FE cards are about 1.39 inches thick

If its a dual slot card it will fit
 
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Bit late to the party but I finally got a Dan case last week. The 1080 Ti is fine, 74 degrees at 2000 rpm at 2ghz.

Cpu is the problem though. 7700k is hitting mid 80's during gaming. Noctua n9i made the cpu throttle past 90. Currently using the cryorig c7 with the noctua fan on top.

How did other people cool a 7700k in this case? Saw a 92mm aio but they are out of stock at the moment.

The cpu is delidded with liquid ultra and at 4.5ghz.

Nice build! Did you find a solution to cooling your 7700k? I am probably going to buy one of these cases for the V2 release but the point of my build will be a fast CPU as possible for audio production work. Your high CPU temps are scaring me a little. I know plenty of people are using the delidded 7700k with that fan and not having overheating issues. Did you figure out a solution to your thermal issues yet? Maybe try delidding the CPU again and reapply paste? Could be it didn't adhere correctly the first time.
 
With this mod, the NH-l9i has a better cooling perfomance then the C7 and is MUCH quieter! The mod improves temperatures by 10 degrees!

https://i.imgur.com/hFapFFx.jpg



HWInfo 64 is pretty much the best program for that



an i7 7700k definitely gets hotter then a 4770k

Can you tell us who made that mod, where the shroud was bought or fabricated, or how we can do that too?
 
Prob not the right spot to ask but since so many folk here use it I had a few questions on hwinfo. Whey you guys are measuring the temp of an name drive are you looking at drive temp 1 or two? They seem to be very different on my box and I'm not sure which is more important. Also for mb monitoring are auxttn1 and auxtin2 important?
 
name drive? what do youi mean?

Currently i'am running my GTX 1070 @ default clocks but undervolted to 0,925 Volts. Below are some screenshots with 0,925V and 1,050V stock.


1.jpg 2.jpg
 
name drive = NVME drive?

People here want to make sure that their NVME drive is not thermal throtteling.

This is the way I made my HWInfo64 look like. Hopefully that helps you:
https://i.imgur.com/8Il7pUN.jpg
 
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based on the many results from this thread, this type of solution does seem to be the best. fans do not perform well when the input side is against a surface, and the solution to that is some distance and a duct. in this way the smaller, weaker heatsink of the noctua could beat the cryorig in overall performance. makes sense to me!

this is also why DAN'S heatsink will perform the best. the fan can be mounted BELOW the heatsink, so the heatsink itself acts as a duct. we will see dan's final performance measurements in the coming weeks and months. should be interesting!

With this mod, the NH-l9i has a better cooling perfomance then the C7 and is MUCH quieter! The mod improves temperatures by 10 degrees!

https://i.imgur.com/hFapFFx.jpg



HWInfo 64 is pretty much the best program for that



an i7 7700k definitely gets hotter then a 4770k
 
name drive? what do youi mean?

Currently i'am running my GTX 1070 @ default clocks but undervolted to 0,925 Volts. Below are some screenshots with 0,925V and 1,050V stock.




Yea name = Nvme didn't catch my computer auto correcting it. Sorry. On my hwinfo 64 it lists temp1 which is 50c and looks fine to me but there is a second temp for that drive which is showing 76c the whole time. Ill try to grab a screen shot when I get home. ITs the same with my mb most of the temps report 50s but there are some values showing over 100c. Not sure if its something odd with my mb or if I am just mist understanding what the stats are.
 
Nice build! Did you find a solution to cooling your 7700k? I am probably going to buy one of these cases for the V2 release but the point of my build will be a fast CPU as possible for audio production work. Your high CPU temps are scaring me a little. I know plenty of people are using the delidded 7700k with that fan and not having overheating issues. Did you figure out a solution to your thermal issues yet? Maybe try delidding the CPU again and reapply paste? Could be it didn't adhere correctly the first time.

Delid is fine as I was getting reasonable temperatures in my old build with the same cpu. I think my CPU is just bad in terms of silicon lottery. Need 1.27v for it to be stable at 4.5ghz xmp settings. In the power settings I reduced the cpu to 99% to stop the overclock. At 4.2ghz the core is 1.136v and the max temp is in the high 70's in aida64.

Tried making a duct with cardboard but it wasn't better than the cryorig. Currently using a noctua 25mm thick fan instead of the stock one.
 
Hi guys,

I have the opportunity to finally buy the case but few question.
(I follow the project at the begining but arrived just after the v1 was sold and i havnt follow since that time.)

the configartion proposed is coming with an i5 6600k, I guess I need to undervolt to avoid trouble with the important TDP ?
is the coolteck LP53 still the good option to replace the intel curently in place ?
I see someone with a spacer between the noctua and the side panel is it a good thing to doit ? I dont undestand if the air flow was coming from outside ou rejected outside.
I read that a HSLP-48 is in progress but not available, right ?

Last question I would like to put a GTX 1070 Gigabyte windforce and I was wondering if it works with the Dan case specially with the 131 mm wide?

Cheers,
 
Hi guys,

I have the opportunity to finally buy the case but few question.
(I follow the project at the begining but arrived just after the v1 was sold and i havnt follow since that time.)

the configartion proposed is coming with an i5 6600k, I guess I need to undervolt to avoid trouble with the important TDP ?
is the coolteck LP53 still the good option to replace the intel curently in place ?
I see someone with a spacer between the noctua and the side panel is it a good thing to doit ? I dont undestand if the air flow was coming from outside ou rejected outside.
I read that a HSLP-48 is in progress but not available, right ?

Last question I would like to put a GTX 1070 Gigabyte windforce and I was wondering if it works with the Dan case specially with the 131 mm wide?

Cheers,
I've an 4790k @ 4,5ghz and it is no problem in A4-sfx with the LP-53.
And YES, your gtx 1070 should fit.
 
Update to M.2:

I'm a perfectionist and want the best results. So a next test with a different cooling solution:
This are 13x13x5mm Copper Heatsinks for Raspberry Pi and fit perfectly on the Chips of the M.2 SSD.

Results are interesting. The maximum temperature are not changed. Up to 76°C.
But the average temperatures at Gaming are much better. Alway under 70°C.
 

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Update to M.2:

I'm a perfectionist and want the best results. So a next test with a different cooling solution:
This are 13x13x5mm Copper Heatsinks for Raspberry Pi and fit perfectly on the Chips of the M.2 SSD.

Results are interesting. The maximum temperature are not changed. Up to 76°C.
But the average temperatures at Gaming are much better. Alway under 70°C.
Is samsung?
 
Update to M.2:

I'm a perfectionist and want the best results. So a next test with a different cooling solution:
This are 13x13x5mm Copper Heatsinks for Raspberry Pi and fit perfectly on the Chips of the M.2 SSD.

Results are interesting. The maximum temperature are not changed. Up to 76°C.
But the average temperatures at Gaming are much better. Alway under 70°C.

This basically means either the spikes are so short that it doesn't conduct through the resin or the thermal glue is shit.
If you want you can place on 2-4 corners a small dot of woodglue (nothing stronger) and fill the rest with some cheap thermal paste.
But before you do that I would log the temperature with a small time increment (0.5s or so) and see how long the 76°C spikes are (if they are visible, meaning 0.5s and longer, it should help).
 
Update to M.2:

I'm a perfectionist and want the best results. So a next test with a different cooling solution:
This are 13x13x5mm Copper Heatsinks for Raspberry Pi and fit perfectly on the Chips of the M.2 SSD.

Results are interesting. The maximum temperature are not changed. Up to 76°C.
But the average temperatures at Gaming are much better. Alway under 70°C.

Those numbers seem high. Do those kinds of temps seem normal to any other Dan bulders? Will those temps destroy your NVME SSD over time or hinder read/write speeds?

I am trying to decide whether to go NVME SSD M.2 for my Dan build or stick with Sata III SSD. Any opinions welcome.

For NVME users, have you tried something like this? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=37B-0003-00023
 
I have a peak of 60° but i need to undervolt my 7700k to 4,2 ghz.
If I oc the cpu at 4,6ghz, the ssd go to 75° too. Soooooo I prefer temps than 3-5 fps more in my games
 
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