Dreamerbydesign
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Glad I didn't jump on selling my current setup for a potential CFL build.
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Ah, I'm not buying that. What are they going to show? One ES cpu and an October release date.Few more weeks for CFL-S. Sept. 16(ish) it seems.
Rumor I think.
Intel didn't say anything official about the release date today.
Astronomic autumn on northern hemisphere is between 23rd September and 22 December.Isn't fall defined as Sept. 1 till Nov. 30?
This bring questions about 370. Was it planned as lower end of chipset and it comes rushed? Was it last minute design to speed up CFL release by few months as a response to Ryzen?The last leaked roadmap showed August/September so we might be looking at a small delay. Which begs the question why even bother releasing the CPUs and Z390 separately?
If it was rushed, is it just slightly tuned z270 with small changes that were needed for CFL or was it fast design that may come with bugs?
If z300 series support existing Skylake and Kaby-lake CPUs - I might get the mobo first (preferably z390?), as I don't really need a new cpu for gaming right now, but would like to have some upgrade path in future.
I'm thinking they are staying on the delayed schedule for multiple reasons. Giving z270/kabby more time. Getting the z390 chipset done. Both things that people will complain about.
Although the presentation I saw they said in desktops by the holidays so nothing is really delayed
We shall see, why still 1151 then if it was socket changes?The chipset may support it, the socket may not.
Z370 is a reality and mobos are designed and manufactured.
Mobile got 14nm++ first.
We shall see, why still 1151 then if it was socket changes?
Wasn't that same with C2D? That one of Intel bad axe motherboards was not working with Wolfdale and only its 2nd rev. with different vrms worked?The socket may have changed electrically. Or just the VRM spec.
Why LGA2011 that isn't LGA2011?
Nobody here gives a shit about mobile chips lmao.
I do, to an extent. It potentially means that the next Dell XPS 13 version will have a quad-core processor and maybe more RAM, which I'm looking forward to. I love my 9350, but having a low power dual-core chip with only 8GB of memory is NOT fun when you have to use it as a primary PC.
I do too, but when I do, I go to the laptop forum.
Here I expect to see desktop stuff.
we don't need to wonder. 8700k will be faster than 7800X, and 7800X is already usually faster than 1800X http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1903?vs=1950
What IPC boost, no evidence of that yet.
As others have stated, it's possible that the chipset isn't really changing beyond getting rebranded. That said, VRM specifications can and do sometimes change. We've seen this before. Several Intel motherboards had to be of a specific revision to support newer CPU's. NVIDIA's 780i SLI chipset was virtually identical to the 680i SLI chipset it replaced aside from the nF200 chipset being added to it for PCIe 2.0 compatibility. The VRM specifications had to change as well because Intel altered the CPU specifications so that newer CPUs wouldn't work on the older 680i SLI boards. Don't forget Socket 370. There were older socket 370 motherboards that only supported Celeron CPUs, then later socket 370 motherboards that supported Coppermine Pentium III CPUs. Then there is LGA 2011. We've seen multiple versions of this socket, yet they are electrically different.
Allot of people accuse Intel of being "the bad guys" for changing sockets too often. The reality is, we've had issues that stem from not changing the sockets often enough on the AMD side. Microcode, BIOS issues, and TDP increases or voltage specifications changes prevent some motherboards from using newer CPUs anyway.
Allot of people accuse Intel of being "the bad guys" for changing sockets too often. The reality is, we've had issues that stem from not changing the sockets often enough on the AMD side. Microcode, BIOS issues, and TDP increases or voltage specifications changes prevent some motherboards from using newer CPUs anyway.
Lots of people assume that AM4 mobo will support any future chip without issues.
While I don't disagree, cfl es have been tested on Z270 mobo's according to some early leaks (unless this was because the benchmarking software did not recognise z370) so unless they made some last minute changes they should work in theory.
Beeing on a semi busted motherboard I was kinda hoping to be able to get coffe lake rather sooner then later, might go for an i7 7820x now instead (if only those mobo's were not so damn expensive)
AM4 should support 1 more generation. After that I am not sure because DDR5 and PCIe4 will both require new motherboards so unless AMD does not offer these I expect new boards and CPUs in 2 or so years.
Not even remotely comparable.Allot of people accuse Intel of being "the bad guys" for changing sockets too often. The reality is, we've had issues that stem from not changing the sockets often enough on the AMD side. Microcode, BIOS issues, and TDP increases or voltage specifications changes prevent some motherboards from using newer CPUs anyway.
Intel was teasing October 10th during the stream, apparently.
Not even remotely comparable.
That's why I'm not making a rushed decision and will most likely wait for ice Lake. At least it will be a new step after Cannon Lake die shrink and most definitely new socket/chipset again.Exactly. This isn't even a process shrink or a new architecture. This is a money grab. I'm sure the bulk of the high end z270 already have compatibility with the "new" vrm specs.
Trying to decide now if I should get a fast ram kit over a slow one.
3200 MHz 14/16 CAS vs 3000 MHz? Or maybe lower.
This is the price history of a generic 32GB 3200 MHz 16CAS kit.
Nearly doubled in 1 yr.