Mass Effect: Andromeda

Dan_D said:
Except it isn't. I've got no love for EA, but I haven't had any trouble out of the Origin client. I've had more issues with Steam than Origin in recent years.
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I can say I've had about the same amount of problems with them. The interface of steam is more informative, easier to navigate and straightforward, but the store is garbage since they introduced the queue and curators. Origin is overdesigned, minimalist, but still manages to be hard to navigate and confusing at times.

And yes I hate to use multiple clients as well. This proliferation doesn't help anyone.
 
M76 said:
I can say I've had about the same amount of problems with them. The interface of steam is more informative, easier to navigate and straightforward, but the store is garbage since they introduced the queue and curators. Origin is overdesigned, minimalist, but still manages to be hard to navigate and confusing at times.

And yes I hate to use multiple clients as well. This proliferation doesn't help anyone.
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I couldn't disagree more. I don't find Steam's interface more informative or easier to navigate. DLC management in Steam is shit. Search functions in the store suck ass and often don't yield a result when you damn well know the game is on Steam. I don't give a fuck about the news feeds per game that Steam shows you. Origin's current interface isn't as good as the previous major release was, but it's still not bad. Steam's fucking annoying because the services never install correctly and the client effectively must be repaired and updated each and every time I launch it. Origin isn't perfect. I can't stand the fact that the chat window is more or less always present, even though it's minimized. I don't like all the bullshit on the left that I have no use for. The favorites menu serves no purpose for me. I suppose it might if I had as extensive a library as I do on Steam, but I don't.

Where Steam excels over Origin is in it's back end design. That is to say that moving your Steam install to another drive is a snap. In Origin it's almost pointless to bother. You practically always end up having to reinstall it and re-download games. At least, that's what it always tries to force you to do.
 
Dan_D said:
I couldn't disagree more. I don't find Steam's interface more informative or easier to navigate. DLC management in Steam is shit. Search functions in the store suck ass and often don't yield a result when you damn well know the game is on Steam. I don't give a fuck about the news feeds per game that Steam shows you. Origin's current interface isn't as good as the previous major release was, but it's still not bad. Steam's fucking annoying because the services never install correctly and the client effectively must be repaired and updated each and every time I launch it. Origin isn't perfect. I can't stand the fact that the chat window is more or less always present, even though it's minimized. I don't like all the bullshit on the left that I have no use for. The favorites menu serves no purpose for me. I suppose it might if I had as extensive a library as I do on Steam, but I don't.

Where Steam excels over Origin is in it's back end design. That is to say that moving your Steam install to another drive is a snap. In Origin it's almost pointless to bother. You practically always end up having to reinstall it and re-download games. At least, that's what it always tries to force you to do.
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Did you misread what I wrote? I said the store is useless garbage. When I say the interface is better, I mean the parts where you organize run and set up your games. Including DLC handling. In Steam I click on a game it shows all the DLCs I own for it, and when I purchased them. And I can just click on the DLC link on the right and immediately it shows all the downloadable content available for that particular game I don't even have to go to the store to get the DLCs listed. I don't know how could it be more straightforward than that.
 
M76 said:
Did you misread what I wrote? I said the store is useless garbage. When I say the interface is better, I mean the parts where you organize run and set up your games. Including DLC handling. In Steam I click on a game it shows all the DLCs I own for it, and when I purchased them. And I can just click on the DLC link on the right and immediately it shows all the downloadable content available for that particular game I don't even have to go to the store to get the DLCs listed. I don't know how could it be more straightforward than that.
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I didn't misread. I simply disagree with you.
 
Dan_D said:
Except it isn't. I've got no love for EA, but I haven't had any trouble out of the Origin client. I've had more issues with Steam than Origin in recent years.
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Well I've had zero problems in 10+ years with steam and 2 major I can't play my game at all issues twice in a month with Origin. Maybe you have EA stock or something?
 
Dan_D said:
I didn't misread. I simply disagree with you.
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I said the steam store is garbage. Then you said I disagree, and went on to explain how the steam store is garbage. So where is the disagreement?
 
M76 said:
I said the steam store is garbage. Then you said I disagree, and went on to explain how the steam store is garbage. So where is the disagreement?
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I don't know. I'm cruising on next to no sleep and recovering from a monster hangover.
 
We ain't young anymore Dan. Got to pick your spots. I hope it was a special occasion.

Oh and coconut water mixed with some tasty juice will help out a lot.
 
Just curious, what level are most people winning the game at? It feels like I'm probably in the last 1/4 of the game and am "only" at level 50'ish. There are weapons that have a minimum level of 2x that.
Are those for NG+ or for multiplayer fiends or is this game that huge?
 
Domingo said:
Just curious, what level are most people winning the game at? It feels like I'm probably in the last 1/4 of the game and am "only" at level 50'ish. There are weapons that have a minimum level of 2x that.
Are those for NG+ or for multiplayer fiends or is this game that huge?
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I think I was at 67 or somewhere around there when I cleared it.
 
Domingo said:
Just curious, what level are most people winning the game at? It feels like I'm probably in the last 1/4 of the game and am "only" at level 50'ish. There are weapons that have a minimum level of 2x that.
Are those for NG+ or for multiplayer fiends or is this game that huge?
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I believe I was also around 60 something when I beat it.
 
60'ish makes sense. I haven't done much of anything on Elaaden yet, although I have (finally) completed all of the random companion side quests. I believe I'm at level 48.
I just noticed those level 9 advanced weapons and my jaw dropped. Even if I completed all of those pointless collection quests I can't imagine getting that high if the game is as long as it seems to be. I've completed all of the major ones, so it's not like I'm underpowered or anything.
 
Just a note on Origin.
My comp WILL NOT sleep if I leave Origin running.
If I shut it off when I exit the game, comp sleeps like a champ.
Otherwise... I ain't got no prob with Origin.
 
Interesting, I haven't noticed those issues, but I normally only run Origin when I want to play a game I have on Origin or once a week to let it check for updates. Otherwise I keep it off, just like Steam or most other services I am not actively using. That is pretty much the same with most other services (Steam, Skype, Spotify, etc), I really only run them when I want to use the service and then occasionally for updates.
 
Never had any Origin issues on my end, although the program got a pretty major update a week or so ago. Could be related to that.
 
I only hate Origin, because I don't like having multiple clients. To the point where obviously Steam is my main client. But, since I like GOG, and like to support what they do, I buy games there too. (especially classics) However, I'll install Galaxy on a completely different machine. :D (Galaxy isn't necessary with GOG, but it's actually pretty handy...) Origin is on my main system with Steam just because it's the system that I prefer to play Mass Effect and Mirror's edge from, and it also streams to my Shield TV. I don't like that I have two game clients on there though.

I just refuse to log into uPlay, so I don't really play any of my old Ubi games that require it. Luckily the few that I do play don't make me sign into it.

Otherwise, I don't really have a problem with the way Origin works, functions, etc. It's fine really, I just wish I had a choice to run those games from Steam WITHOUT the Origin client. If I had to buy the games through EA, but could then put them in my Steam library (not just launch them like shortcuts either...) then I would be totally fine with its existence. I have over 300 games in Steam, and only a handful anywhere else, so it seems silly to require me to use something else. I know why they do it, but I don't like it. :p

Edit: Before anyone calls into question the miniscule system requirements... Yes, I know. My system is not being impacted from a resource point of view in the slightest by running more clients. I just feel that it's messy, and it's more a psychological thing than anything. To me that's important though. If I'm not happy psychologically, then somethings not right. :D
 
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J3RK said:
I only hate Origin, because I don't like having multiple clients...
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that's the same way I feel...Origin, Uplay, GoG Galaxy, Steam all work fine for me but it's just the principle of having to run multiple gaming clients for different games...pretty soon every major publisher will have their own proprietary gaming client
 
I just use Steam as a front-end for everything. Even if a game requires something like Uplay, Origin, Blizzard, etc. you can just tell Steam to open the game's EXE. It'll open the required client by default anyway.
I have 5-6 clients installed, but you'd never know it since I just use Steam for everything.
 
Bioware drops patch support of ME Andromeda, multiplayer will continue

Our last update, 1.10, was the final update for Mass Effect: Andromeda...there are no planned future patches for single-player or in-game story content...in the coming weeks, our multiplayer team will provide details of their ongoing support and upcoming content, including new multiplayer missions, character kits, and what’s in store for N7 Day...

https://www.masseffect.com/news/mass-effect-andromeda-update-from-the-studio
 
"We appreciate all the millions of people who came with us to the Andromeda galaxy. We hope to see you again in the Mass Effect universe."
Hm, implication is that the Mass Effect Universe isn't done...not holding my breath for another game though. Maybe they're just referring to the multiplayer?
 
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bmg said:
"We appreciate all the millions of people who came with us to the Andromeda galaxy. We hope to see you again in the Mass Effect universe."
Hm, implication is that the Mass Effect Universe isn't done...not holding my breath for another game though. Maybe they're just referring to the multiplayer?
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DLC and/or expansion pack (s)? These aren't the same as "patches" as far as I've always known and understood.
 
Q-BZ said:
DLC and/or expansion pack (s)? These aren't the same as "patches" as far as I've always known and understood.
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there's pretty much zero chance of any DLC...even though they only mentioned the end of patches it can be inferred that they are also referring to any future story content of any kind...otherwise they would have specifically mentioned it
 
polonyc2 said:
there's pretty much zero chance of any DLC...even though they only mentioned the end of patches it can be inferred that they are also referring to any future story content of any kind...otherwise they would have specifically mentioned it
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Unfortunately you are correct.


This is a producer... read the discussion.

I'm unpleasantly amazed. Far worse performing games have gotten DLC.

I guess we can thank the advent of Destiny 4...er um...Anthem for this.

What a needless botch this whole thing is. Unbelievable. The blame has to fall on EA Corporate for this entire debacle.

They're telling people some of the story threads...

(like the Quarian Ark that got teased with dialog at the end)

...will be picked up in the comics. Forget that. Not interested.
 
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Weren't they originally planning a new Andromeda trilogy? Sad what happened. There's so many loose ends in this game. The story was a big disappointment so I guess we shouldn't have expected much from the sequels anyway.

They will most likely reboot the franchise again in 5+ years. If Anthem is highly successful, ME is probably dead for a long time.
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
Weren't they originally planning a new Andromeda trilogy? Sad what happened. There's so many loose ends in this game. The story was a big disappointment so I guess we shouldn't have expected much from the sequels anyway.

They will most likely reboot the franchise again in 5+ years. If Anthem is highly successful, ME is probably dead for a long time.
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/08...ntent-planned?abthid=5998d86e395bb83954000010


http://kotaku.com/bioware-confirms-no-dlc-for-mass-effect-andromeda-1798069090 (Fair is fair. Kotaku deserves to be listed here.)

https://www.polygon.com/2017/8/19/16174510/mass-effect-andromeda-no-dlc-last-update


http://www.pcgamer.com/bioware-is-dropping-support-for-mass-effect-andromedas-single-player/


Wow... This is really just unreal. Read the comments about what the studio people said and the rest of it.

I think it goes back to that first wasted year where they were going to try and make a No Man's Sky type of concept...lost all that time and resource...and then it went downhill from there.


If they really planned all along that it was just going to be this game followed by comics and Apex missions...that's just daft.


Repeat from this: https://www.masseffect.com/news/mass-effect-andromeda-update-from-the-studio

Early in development, we decided to focus Mass Effect: Andromeda’s story on the Pathfinder, the exploration of the Andromeda galaxy, and the conflict with the Archon. The game was designed to further expand on the Pathfinder’s journey through this new galaxy with story-based APEX multiplayer missions and we will continue to tell stories in the Andromeda Galaxy through our upcoming comics and novels, including the fate of the quarian ark.
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That's daft.



I've never seen a AAA title and franchise mishandled in this fashion to the best of my memory in 30+ years of gaming.

If they think this is going to inspire confidence towards Anthem they have another thing coming.

This does not inspire trust and confidence from the consumer.
 
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TaintedSquirrel said:
They will most likely reboot the franchise again in 5+ years...
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there will definitely be more ME games in the future...too valuable an ip to just abandon...they really should have given this to the A Team at BioWare instead of having the best people working on Anthem...shows that they have more faith in the long term prospects of a new ip over an established one with a rich mythology...either way BioWare is not the same company they were pre-EA
 
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I hope this means they will get to work on a proper successor to undo the damage of ME:A. It's the worst AAA IP title I've ever played. Too awful to even play.
 
I have to believe the downfall goes back to that original ending of ME3 and the fallout from there.

I had wondered about seeing it on Origin starting last week or fairly recently at $20 for Standard and $25 for Deluxe. Now I know why.
 
This is very sad. I was actually looking forward to them fully fixing the game with updates. EA really just knows how to abandon ship to save money. This is why I will never purchase another EA game again, Battlefront 2, Battlefield, Anthem, it can all go fuck itself if this is how EA decides to treat their games because of some negative reviews.
 
Played the 10-hour demo and ended up buying it for $30. I'm 87 hours in and there's still a ton of things to do. I think the pros of this game outweigh the cons, but it's not as good as the previous games which should be obvious. The story is lacking, but the gameplay is solid. I'd rate it a 7/10 game.

I'm not surprised they abandoned the game. No DLC makes me a sad panda. :(
 
NickJames said:
This is very sad. I was actually looking forward to them fully fixing the game with updates.
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There isn't really anything left to "fix." You either like the game's giant but repetitious nature or you don't. If they hadn't teased Quarian content, I don't think people would even care. Just about everything newsworthy related to Andromeda is overblown. I swear someone has it out for this game.
 
Sprayingmango said:
I hope this means they will get to work on a proper successor to undo the damage of ME:A. It's the worst AAA IP title I've ever played. Too awful to even play.
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There is no way to undo the damage they're doing to themselves. It's not about ME:A it's a solid game, albeit not as good as the original trilogy, but still well above average. And it also sold well. This abandonment means they're alienating the people who actually liked the game like me. And I don't easily forget. I wasn't interested in anthem anyway, but this makes sure I'm not giving money to them again.

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I have to believe the downfall goes back to that original ending of ME3 and the fallout from there.

I had wondered about seeing it on Origin starting last week or fairly recently at $20 for Standard and $25 for Deluxe. Now I know why.
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I don't think so. I think the honest fans either forgiven or forgotten about the ending of ME3 by now. I was in full outrage mode about it when I first saw it. But the extended cut made it acceptable. And since then the indoctrination theory made it epic. And I also won't forget that the Citadel DLC was probably one of the best fan service expansions ever created. While Leviathan and Omega were pretty good as well.
It's similar to the people I see raving about a tv series ending differently than they had expected and going into full attack dog mode. That the ending "ruined everything". How could it? The ending is just an ending, it can't take back the dozens of hours of fun you had with the game / series before that. No, I think the blame entirely falls on EA / Bioware handling Pr like a 10 year old child. This jumping the ship is also like that, a proper captain at the helm wouldn't just abandon ship at the first sign of trouble, while there is still a chance to save it. Sure there is probably more money to be made on anthem, than dlcs for andromeda, but why can't they do both? If anything abandoning ME kills every last bit of faith people still had in bioware. So instead of flocking to anthem they'll probably just walk away. At least I'd like to think that. I'm certainly walking away, and I urge everyone to do the same, to let EA know how big a mistake they're making by putting all their bets on an MMO.


dark_reign said:
Played the 10-hour demo and ended up buying it for $30. I'm 87 hours in and there's still a ton of things to do. I think the pros of this game outweigh the cons, but it's not as good as the previous games which should be obvious. The story is lacking, but the gameplay is solid. I'd rate it a 7/10 game.
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7/10 is a reasonable rating. Unfortunately everything below 8/10 nowadays tends to be viewed as a failure by some people. I don't think anything above 5/10 is a failure. I've had some great fun with games that I've rated 5 or even 4 out of 10.

I'm not surprised they abandoned the game. No DLC makes me a sad panda. :(
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I'm actually surprised. It shows that they're not making a rational decision based on sales numbers, but an emotional one based the shitstorm. Just like they did with that "artistic integrity" crap 5 years ago.
 
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