drescherjm
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There are some X399 boards that are standard ATX.I probably missed it.....
Is the MB used a E-ATX layout since the CPU is giant?
Or does all this fit in a standard ATX form factor???
ECC is a big deal for me because my all -in- one powers the whole house and now I can add a third video card. So now people can game in three rooms.
Steam link?ECC is a big deal for me because my all -in- one powers the whole house and now I can add a third video card. So now people can game in three rooms.
Since he mentioned ecc and one gpu per person, I'd imagine he's using a server for virtualization or has some other remoting software installed which assigns a gpu to each user. He probably has VMs for nas and/or other duties, thus "all-in-one".Steam link?
How? Very curious.
Way I see it my ultimate build would be next year TR Zen2 and dual something grunty enough to VR GPUs, so I can co-op/2P VR in the living room with buddies. I always had so much fun with local co-op/2P and I'd love to bring it back with VR, along with VR development.
Any idea if the SMT issue in virtualization has been rectified or if the fix is still to disable SMT (as in Ryzen)?
In the UK, barely any stock of the 1950X and zero motherboards available anywhere. So much for day1 availabilty!
From what I checked in the Netherlands it seems that the motherboards are out of stock for 1 supplier but the other one is selling Gigabyte and ASrock Taichi & professional 379 389 479 Euro.
The Asus board is listed at 599 Euro which is the current most expensive one but both Azerty and Alternate do not have any supply of the Zenith Extreme.
that's why i like [H] reviews, straight to the point and without the 20 pages of fluff you see on some other sites..
So you mean not as detailed. You can actually learn a lot if you take the time to read the Anandtech and Tom's reviews. For people who like to learn, those reviews are valuable. Kids nowadays go to those stupid youtube reviewers who don't know shit but flash you charts on a fancy video.
You said it brother.I am happy for the [H]. It has been a long slow drag for an enthusiast site over the last many years. Yet they plodded on with class, and maybe a little boredom
Lately there has been a little more "spring" in the CPU reviews. It is nice to see. I can't imagine the last 3++ years of the dull reality that was enthusiast tech reviews. Kyle and [H] crew want to review new and quality parts, and lots of them I am sure. I am happy for them that there are finally new parts worth digging into. I hope it encompasses GPU's soon as well.
Keep up the good work.
I have been running two instances of Handbrake here for stresstesting. Both 4K encodes...holy crap does this thing chew through those.Kyle:
Since handbrake scales poorly after six cores, could you run two simultaneous instances at six or eight cores without much issue?
Also, with a properly fitted waterblock and a 4x120 or better radiator, do you think you could get 4.2GHz stable across all 16 cores?
You would be absolutely correct, no as detailed in terms of diving into the tech of the processors. And I would suggest that others have not been as focused as we have on making sure enthusiasts get as much good information when it comes to tweaking. I would rather focus on the things we are better at instead of parrot what is written in the whitepapers.So you mean not as detailed. You can actually learn a lot if you take the time to read the Anandtech and Tom's reviews. For people who like to learn, those reviews are valuable. Kids nowadays go to those stupid youtube reviewers who don't know shit but flash you charts on a fancy video.
Yep, read'em all. I am not trying to make HardOCP a one-stop-shop and never have. We are one of the few sites that still actually link out to other review sites actively, and every day.I read 'em all. Kyle focuses a lot more on practical overclocking than the other reviewers. I mean, who else benched an OC'd Sandy against OC'd Ryzen? Yes, the Anands, the Toms, etc... all good for architectural info and the like. But Kyle brings the [H]ard view with the OCing that they don't.
TL;DR: Read 'em all. Useful information in all of them.
Oh I don't know maybe i'm looking at the processor that's competing with the 7900 the 1950x. Both are priced the same. Therefore they compete with each other, which is lower 624 or 714? This isn't that hard of a math problem.
Wow, I don't know why my pointing out what the chart says has caused so much hostility. kac77's post I was replying to said, and I quote:What price list are you reading? This shows Intel's $999 CPU losing (albeit slightly) to AMD's $999 CPU... Based on price the competition to the i9 7900X is the 1950X, and the only thing Intel has in the "win" category is performance per core... not much of a win if you're not constrained by licensing software per core.
X299 is (at best) completely pointless - other than more PCIe lanes (on the top-end cpus only) it's no different than Intel's consumer Z270 chipset, and is trounced by the features available on X399.
Unless Intel drops the price of the 7900X to $799 or you have one or two single-threaded apps you use constantly (while still using heavily threaded apps often enough to justify 10 cores) it's a tough sell.
And I was just pointing out that that was not what the chart showed at all.Um TR won in Premiere.
I am quite happy to see competition from AMD again in the CPU space after so many years. I was exclusively with AMD in my PCs before Intel launched the Core line. And even though I never brought up price this entire time, in my case price is not as much as an issue, but I certainly respect that it is for others. I am really anxious to see how the 1950X stacks up against the 7940X.Nice to see IPC keeping up with Intel for the most part. Will be looking forward to the followup on overclocking. It's going to be real hard deciding between a 1950X and 7940X now.
I am happy for the [H]. It has been a long slow drag for an enthusiast site over the last many years. Yet they plodded on with class, and maybe a little boredom
Lately there has been a little more "spring" in the CPU reviews. It is nice to see. I can't imagine the last 3++ years of the dull reality that was enthusiast tech reviews. Kyle and [H] crew want to review new and quality parts, and lots of them I am sure. I am happy for them that there are finally new parts worth digging into. I hope it encompasses GPU's soon as well.
Keep up the good work.
From a hardware enthusiast reviewer's standpoint, which he was addressing....yes, it has been boring.Only boring if you're tied to AMD.
KVM (Linux) w/ GPU passthrough that's an old write up I did. I have to replace the photobucket links. But you'll get an idea.Steam link?
How? Very curious.
Way I see it my ultimate build would be next year TR Zen2 and dual something grunty enough to VR GPUs, so I can co-op/2P VR in the living room with buddies. I always had so much fun with local co-op/2P and I'd love to bring it back with VR, along with VR development.
I don't think that's required for kvm... Will know soon.Disable SMT+Opcache+ASLR is still the fix.
In the UK, barely any stock of the 1950X and zero motherboards available anywhere. So much for day1 availabilty!
In the UK, barely any stock of the 1950X and zero motherboards available anywhere. So much for day1 availabilty!
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/amd-...hz-socket-tr4-processor-retail-cp-3a7-am.html
That was hard to find, no motherboards though.
Yeah, I did say, barely any CPU and zero motherboards. Scan and CCL have 1920X's in now too. Looks like they all took second deliveries today.
Still zero motherboards anywhere. I've not bought from overclockers in a long time since their pricing was way off. This pricing seems to be standard though, RRP.
I'll just wait I think. I'm not desperate, I've got a 6850 at the mo. But if places had had them in today I might have impulse bought. Probably for the best really, impulse buys are never the best.
Overclockers are saying monday/Tuesday for the Asus board.
And so stock at the moment everywhere for motherboards is.....?
This ripper thing makes my new i7-7700 look like an Athlon x2.
But still no iGPU, AMD's upcoming APU could be a 1-2 punch.
That just highlights the IPC difference and It's actually a decent comparison even between different generations of the same CPU line to see the differences (and can further highlight differences if clockspeeds are set the same)Unigine Heaven 640x480! Love it, that's something probably neither AMD nor Intel ever optimized their CPUs for, so fun to see how they perform on an unexpected workload