AMD Threadripper Prices Undercut Intel's Core i9 by as Much as $1,000

Honestly, for this price if AMD's version of VT-x and VT-d work reliably on this chip, you could run esxi or unraid with a media server, a gaming rig, and even if you wanted a folding rig at the same time on a single board for not much more than what we spend on a high end rig we would normally build anyway.
 
Honestly, for this price if AMD's version of VT-x and VT-d work reliably on this chip, you could run esxi or unraid with a media server, a gaming rig, and even if you wanted a folding rig at the same time on a single board for not much more than what we spend on a high end rig we would normally build anyway.
Has there been an ESXi patch for the Ryzen bugs?
 
Do you mean there are bugs in Ryzen or in ESXi?
Oh sorry for the jumbled message. I saw the pink screen of death aka ESXi on Ryzen and was wondering if either AMD or VMware issued a fix. Last I recall it was a “wait for kernel 4.12” thing.
 
Oh sorry for the jumbled message. I saw the pink screen of death aka ESXi on Ryzen and was wondering if either AMD or VMware issued a fix. Last I recall it was a “wait for kernel 4.12” thing.

OK that, the official patch isn't out until Vmware releases... 6.5u1 I think they call it... Can't recall a release date. They have announced official support for Epyc so I imagine when they officially support that , the Ryzens will work.
 
"Undercut".

Only takes a 6 core 7800X to beat the 1800X in production tasks as well as a large margin in other tasks. This also explains why TR is reduced to 2 SKUs.

Or they have went with 2 skus because AMD is getting very good consistent yields. If they where not they would slide in a few more lower end skus to move the cast offs. You know like what Intel does all the time. :)
 
This is great!! But AMD needs to pickup its Mini-ITX game.
There are so many options for mini-itx intel boards. AMDs choices are poor.
 
This is great!! But AMD needs to pickup its Mini-ITX game.
There are so many options for mini-itx intel boards. AMDs choices are poor.
Hell yeah it does. I’d love a itx threadripper system.
 
"Undercut".

Only takes a 6 core 7800X to beat the 1800X in production tasks as well as a large margin in other tasks. This also explains why TR is reduced to 2 SKUs.
TR is only 2 SKUs because AMD use symmetry for their cpus, disabeling 1 or 2 cores from each CCX on the die , 4CCX-1 = 12, and 4CCX-0 = 16, for Ryzen 2CCX-0 = 8, 2CCX-1 =6 , 2CCX-2 = 4, they do this for technical reasons related to infinity fabric.
now why don't they add SKUs with different clocks, maybe it's coming or maybe it's not worth it
 
TR is only 2 SKUs because AMD use symmetry for their cpus, disabeling 1 or 2 cores from each CCX on the die , 4CCX-1 = 12, and 4CCX-0 = 16, for Ryzen 2CCX-0 = 8, 2CCX-1 =6 , 2CCX-2 = 4, they do this for technical reasons related to infinity fabric.
now why don't they add SKUs with different clocks, maybe it's coming or maybe it's not worth it

With only 300-400 mhz difference in boost clocks on Zen SKUs... I would have to assume their yields on zen in general are very even. If they could push a few golden samples higher they would... and I doubt they are throwing out tons of chips that can't hit the min sku specs.

They don't have the $ to be throwing out a ton of silicon... or to not jump at a chance to sell a premium low supply version either. So it looks like AMD designed a very stable, consistent fabing architecture....
GO AMD. :)
 
This is great!! But AMD needs to pickup its Mini-ITX game.
There are so many options for mini-itx intel boards. AMDs choices are poor.

Considering the size of the CPU socket, is it even feasible to make an ITX Threadripper board?
 
Considering the size of the CPU socket, is it even feasible to make an ITX Threadripper board?

Maybe one with no PCIe slots and a GPU on the board. Or perhaps one requiring an external GPU.
 
It was bound to be requested, 16c/32t in your ITX. You dawg, I heard you liked supercomputers so I put a supercomputer in your computer... so you can be super while you work on your computer.
 
I'm expecting early price breaks like they ryzen 7 1800x saw (regularly ~100 off msrp), such a great value for the number of cores I'm actually surprised to see the 3.4 base clock and 4.0 ghz boost. I'm thinking water might be the way to go on this one. I'll be ecstatic to drop my video encode times by roughly half (over my ryzen 7) and still have 1-2 core boost into 4.0 territory. Lets just hope there are socket adapters and coolers that will work at launch.
 
ryzen 7 1800x saw (regularly ~100 off msrp), such a great value for the number of cores

I consider the 1800X overpriced and I expect more price reduction when Intel releases is 6C / 12T i7 mainstream CPU.
 
I consider the 1800X overpriced and I expect more price reduction when Intel releases is 6C / 12T i7 mainstream CPU.
Yes, R7 1800x wasn't that great of value especially compared to the R7 1700, just to be clear the value I was mentioning was the 16c TR for ~999 (hopefully 899 IRL)
 
I was hoping for an 8 core part because what I really want is more PCI Lanes and the more memory channels. Anyone think there might be an 8 core version in the future?
 
I could see a $499 8C / 16T version. The infinity fabric should allow this.

Why? Doesn't Ryzen 7 already do that? And much cheaper to boot platform wise? If people want more I/O and more mem bandwidth and can afford X399, pretty sure you can afford a CPU at < 999$

Threadripper will officially support ECC RAM (buffered too?), something X299 can't - should be selling em like hotcakes for the workstation crowd.
 
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maybe someone can educate me, for the average home user, or even a home power user, is there any use for all those cores and threads? any apps or games that can actually use them?
 
maybe someone can educate me, for the average home user, or even a home power user, is there any use for all those cores and threads? any apps or games that can actually use them?
most just correlate to VM and keeping software from impacting each other. For the most part, no, most user don't need it but hell most of us want it. Maybe its that old saying... better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.
 
maybe someone can educate me, for the average home user, or even a home power user, is there any use for all those cores and threads? any apps or games that can actually use them?

No.

These are for high end workstations. Professional wedding photographers and videographers are likely the closes thing these will see to usage in peoples homes. :) lol

The high end workstation market though is huge... and growing. I have clients that use lots of stuff like houdini under Linux and they are paying attention to what AMD is cooking right now.
 
maybe someone can educate me, for the average home user, or even a home power user, is there any use for all those cores and threads? any apps or games that can actually use them?

Ya, this is not for the avg home user, or even a home power user. This is for a professional or semi professional in a workstation pushing a rendering box or running multiple VM's and things of that nature. At this price it is actually pretty competitive for a great many uses.
 
That falls to the board makers. Not AMD I'd imagine.

And the laws of physics. A cpu that size and 8 ram slots + the chip sets, v-bridge, pcie slot, m.2 slot, and ports on a board that small. Kinda crazy if you think about it.
 
I want to buy a Ryzen cou, but they just don't have a great matx mobo.

The "top" of the line mobo i found happens to have an even older sound chip than my current z77 mobo, for example.
 
I'm seeing a 10% difference in performance here amongst the 2. The Intel is a better CPU in these tests for sure and $100 less.

Need to have [H] compare these in games.
You don't compare CPUs from two different platforms, let alone platform segments (one is high end of main stream, the other is HEDT), without taking cost of Motherboard into consideration.

It's no use saying this CPU is $100 cheaper so it's better buy, when all of its motherboard are $150 more expensive than the other. This is a minor exaggeration, but you get the point.

The cheapest X299 motherboard and the most expensive x370 are roughly on par, meaning you have nowhere to go but up for one, and nowhere but down for the other.
 
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