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AMD Launches EPYC Enterprise CPUs Available Today - AMD held it official EPYC enterprise CPU launch today in Austin, TX. If you are not aware of EPYC, it is quite simply AMD's effort to get back into the datacenters that are now firmly held by Intel Xeon processors. What do you get when you take 4 Ryzen 7 CPUs and put those down on a single package with Infinity Fabric? You would be correct, its EPYC.
 
I really hope this becomes a success in the Enterprise segment for AMD.

With the shenanigans that Intel seems to be pulling with their i9 lineup, a Threadripper just might find a home in my PC chassis. Time will tell...
 
Shame they don't invite local Austin enthusiasts to these events - would have been neat to have been there.

Though I have to say when I was at the Austin Fry's this Saturday the AMD motherboard section has expanded considerably since Ryzen launched.
 
MotionBlur said:
Shame they don't invite local Austin enthusiasts to these events - would have been neat to have been there.

Though I have to say when I was at the Austin Fry's this Saturday the AMD motherboard section has expanded considerably since Ryzen launched.
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Here the Micro center in Detroit has a wall of AMD Ryzen with about 2 isles of Mobos, although some AM3 boards are mixed in. The AMD Video card section is bare though...
 
Reminds me of the original Opteron days.
Great news for the Enterprise Market. Good for consumers too.
 
From Barrons, Intel made a statement.

We take all competitors seriously, and while AMD is trying to re-enter the server market segment, Intel continues to deliver 20+ years of uninterrupted data center innovations while maintaining broad ecosystem investments. Our Xeon CPU architecture is proven and battle tested, delivering outstanding performance on a wide range of workloads and specifically designed to maximize data center performance, capabilities, reliability, and manageability. With our next-generation Xeon Scalable processors, we expect to continue offering the highest core and system performance versus AMD. AMD’s approach of stitching together 4 desktop die in a processor is expected to lead to inconsistent performance and other deployment complexities in the data center.
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Glad to hear you came away impressed with their EPYC launch event. They will need everything they can get to crack back into the server market.
 
I'm thoroughly impressed.
Next step is to verify the performance in testing, and if AMD pulled it off we're in for a wild ride.
 
We shall see if this scalable architecture pays off for them, it seems to thus far, looking forward to some verified reviews soon! As well as TR's release! Current 0% marketshare to whatever is going to be a win for them! They have been firing on all cylinders for sure as of late! Now hurry the hell up with Vega!
 
You know as badass as Epyc and even Threadripper are. I am curious if they could do the same thing with GPU's? make 1 huge ass GPU with 2 vega's on it with Infinity Fabric....

Either way My wallet is going to suck soon, cause my Xeon is getting old.

Kyle. Badass write up!
 
I am cherry as F about these new chips. To me it looks like AMD will have to price Threadripper to compete with the 7351p (single socket version). It is being shown around $700 + dollars. I am thinking that Threadripper is going to be higher clock speed with probably a little more cost involved. But if they deliver a Threadripper 16 core for $7-900 they are going to sell like crack cocaine. I know I will buy one (shit I am buying one) once Kyle does a review and I see the boards are solid with stable.

I am excited. Nice write up Kyle. Please tell us or at least hint to use that you secured one of these for slamming down some benches against.

Hardware verifiable boot..... encrypted RAM ... holy shit yes! Malware kiss your ass good bye. I am cherry on top with this crap.
 
Brackle said:
You know as badass as Epyc and even Threadripper are. I am curious if they could do the same thing with GPU's? make 1 huge ass GPU with 2 vega's on it with Infinity Fabric....

Either way My wallet is going to suck soon, cause my Xeon is getting old.

Kyle. Badass write up!
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I think amd and nvidia ended their dual gpu single card adventures a while ago. I can't see them bothering to do it again any time soon.
 
Algrim said:
Intel even acknowledging a competitor means they're worried. I like Intel worried. (y)
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I'll bet that they're privately far more worried than their statement indicates. At least having Intel always looking over their shoulder will make them think twice before doing questionable things and may serve to contain the rapid acceleration of their Xeon prices of late. The rumored price for the Xeon Platinum was over $12k US, with the M model being over $16k US...prices that are starting to get out of control, IMO (if those rumored prices are accurate).
 
This platform looks amazing.

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  • AMD EPYC™ 7000 series processor family
  • 8-Channel RDIMM/LRDIMM/NVDIMM DDR4, 16 x DIMMs
  • 2 x SFP+ 10Gb/s LAN ports (Broadcom® BCM 57810S)
  • 1 x Dedicated management port
  • 4 x SlimSAS (for 16 x SATA 6Gb/s) ports
  • Ultra-Fast M.2 with PCIe Gen3 x4 interface
  • Up to 4 x PCIe Gen3 x16 slots and 3 x PCIe Gen3 x8 slots
  • Aspeed® AST2500 remote management controller
http://b2b.gigabyte.com/Server-Motherboard/MZ30-AR0-rev-10#ov
 
This definitely sounds EPYC! :D Ok, ok, don't quit my day job. :D Wonder what the server cost will be and will these be in blade servers?
 
InorganicMatter said:
This platform looks amazing.

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  • AMD EPYC™ 7000 series processor family
  • 8-Channel RDIMM/LRDIMM/NVDIMM DDR4, 16 x DIMMs
  • 2 x SFP+ 10Gb/s LAN ports (Broadcom® BCM 57810S)
  • 1 x Dedicated management port
  • 4 x SlimSAS (for 16 x SATA 6Gb/s) ports
  • Ultra-Fast M.2 with PCIe Gen3 x4 interface
  • Up to 4 x PCIe Gen3 x16 slots and 3 x PCIe Gen3 x8 slots
  • Aspeed® AST2500 remote management controller
http://b2b.gigabyte.com/Server-Motherboard/MZ30-AR0-rev-10#ov
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Yeah but how much is that board?
 
gigatexal said:
Yeah but how much is that board?
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It's a nice board, but probably restricted to half length cards for all the PCI-E slots up against DIMM sockets (at least three of the x16 slots). Full length cards would hit the DIMMs.
 
lutjens said:
It's a nice board, but probably restricted to half length cards for all the PCI-E slots up against DIMM sockets (at least three of the x16 slots). Full length cards would hit the DIMMs.
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could just use pci-e extensions.
 
For those of you planning on buying Epyc as a home PC (especially those interested in the 16 core Epyc), I am just wondering what you plan to do that would benefit from the features. Unless you plan to go with the more expensive 32 core one, the main difference is the memory support. Threadripper supports quad-channel (max 128 GB) but Epyc supports 2TB of RAM. There are also more PCI lanes but I would have thought that 64 lanes from threadripper would be enough. Just wondering what people are doing at home that requires 2TB RAM and 128 PCIe lanes.
 
GreenOrbs said:
For those of you planning on buying Epyc as a home PC (especially those interested in the 16 core Epyc), I am just wondering what you plan to do that would benefit from the features. Unless you plan to go with the more expensive 32 core one, the main difference is the memory support. Threadripper supports quad-channel (max 128 GB) but Epyc supports 2TB of RAM. There are also more PCI lanes but I would have thought that 64 lanes from threadripper would be enough. Just wondering what people are doing at home that requires 2TB RAM and 128 PCIe lanes.
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VMs.
 
InorganicMatter said:
That particular board? No idea.

No-frills single socket server boards on the Intel side are typically around the 300-400 USD mark. I'd guess this will be around that same mark.
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I suspect it will come in a little cheaper than an equivalent Intel motherboard. How much less remains to be seen.

GreenOrbs said:
For those of you planning on buying Epyc as a home PC (especially those interested in the 16 core Epyc), I am just wondering what you plan to do that would benefit from the features. Unless you plan to go with the more expensive 32 core one, the main difference is the memory support. Threadripper supports quad-channel (max 128 GB) but Epyc supports 2TB of RAM. There are also more PCI lanes but I would have thought that 64 lanes from threadripper would be enough. Just wondering what people are doing at home that requires 2TB RAM and 128 PCIe lanes.
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A lot of us that might buy something like that do not want it for a primary PC necessarily. It can host an entire virtual infrastructure with any number of roles or purposes in mind. Domain controller, firewall, proxy server, file / print serving, backup server, media / SAN use and any number of other VM's for the purpose of learning or testing different things. That's what I'd do with it. That said, I'll probably go Threadripper or Kaby Lake X and use my current PC for that minus its video cards.
 
GreenOrbs said:
For those of you planning on buying Epyc as a home PC (especially those interested in the 16 core Epyc), I am just wondering what you plan to do that would benefit from the features. Unless you plan to go with the more expensive 32 core one, the main difference is the memory support. Threadripper supports quad-channel (max 128 GB) but Epyc supports 2TB of RAM. There are also more PCI lanes but I would have thought that 64 lanes from threadripper would be enough. Just wondering what people are doing at home that requires 2TB RAM and 128 PCIe lanes.
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We have a XEON build machine that runs VMs for over 24 different builds. Even on our dedicated i7's our builds take over 1/2 hour from scratch. On our VM, it's agonizingly slow. Compiles take over 2 hours.
 
Thanks for the responses. Just wanted to kind of explain where my thought process was coming from. So current Intel HEDT offerings have something like 20 lanes and the upcoming Skylake/Kaby Lake-X have a maximum of 44 lanes on the top end chips. My thought process was if that Intel thinks that 44 lanes is enough for their top end offering-- 64 lanes on threadripper should be sufficient. Same thing with the memory as the top offering from is limited to quad channel. Clearly I was mistaken.

Is Intel just making a mistake then about the number of lanes and memory support? Is buying EPYC a matter of future proofing or do you all think that you will be using all the lanes/memory capacity immediately?
 
Is Intel just making a mistake then about the number of lanes and memory support? Is buying EPYC a matter of future proofing or do you all think that you will be using all the lanes/memory capacity immediately?
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EPYC and the HEDT are 2 completely different segments. Intel will have a server line (lga3647) with lots of PCIe lanes. With TR AMD does have an advantage in PCIe lanes however this may be quite an overkill when PCIe 4.0 becomes a standard. Intel will likely use a different platform to support that. Not sure if the X399 boards will be able to use PCIe 4.0 with new CPUs or not.
 
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I thought Xeon was Intel's server chip? I'm not as familiar with the server side of things being more used to the consumer side of things. These Xeon chips were just released in Feb of this year with 32 lanes. This is an $8,000 chip with only 32 lanes released a few months ago. Other Xeons were released in March with between 20-32 lanes as well.

https://ark.intel.com/products/96900/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E7-8894-v4-60M-Cache-2_40-GHz
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...6/intel-xeon-e7-8894-v4-processor-9000-server
 
drescherjm said:
There will be a new platform to replace that.
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Something new is always coming, simple fact is Intel does not have that right now, while AMD does. AMD is trying everything it's got to win the server market and I think they got a good shot at it.
 
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