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Also 4%, what?
Now its everyone else fault you couldn´t read a chart and tried to play smart? Talking about objectivity. You already decided long ago to buy TR as you posted yourself.
Yeah but solder is better than a delid.4.8Ghz without delid, 5Ghz with delid as max OC.
4.8Ghz without delid, 5Ghz with delid as max OC.
Yeah but solder is better than a delid.
Worse, actually, ask der8auer.Yeah but solder is better than a delid.
Got a link? His stuff is usually in German.Worse, actually, ask der8auer.
Got a link? His stuff is usually in German.
I've decided to purchase exactly nothing to date...I don't base my purchasing decisions on rumor, conjecture or bullshit fanboy innuendo. I wait until the reviews are ALL out and I read them all to get the best picture on all the products that I can. That's called making an objective decision. Something you know absolutely nothing about.
I can purchase whatever processor I feel like and I will purchase the best one, if I feel there is enough of an improvement over my current rig to make a purchase worthwhile.
I'm supporting AMD this time around because:
a) they are giving me what I want (a high core count unlocked processor with ECC) and are not obsessed with trying to screw me out of features that I find useful, simply because I want an unlocked CPU.
b) we all know how progress hits a nearly complete stall when AMD is not providing healthy and meaningful competition for Intel. I personally don't want to see a return to the mire that represents the last ten years.
He did english dubs for his solder delid vids.Got a link? His stuff is usually in German.
No, actually. Until you can actually have a separate P-state for AVX workloads with custom VID and shit, SKL-X won't be an all around chip.SKL-X is really the all around chip with cake and able to eat it.
Really? Shame your own posts prove otherwise.
That 7900X is running really hot even at 4.8 on Tom's Hardware, 364 watt peak draw before it shut itself off running prime95.
Well what do you expect from a jacked out 10 core part. 4.8 (and maybe up to 5 after tweaking settings) is really impressive and the challenge of managing the heat is part of the fun. Based on the review it seems like the chips are very capable.
Kabylake X vs Kabylake, delidded and overclocked, side by side comparison
Just keep in mind this CPU is a engineering sample
I dont think the 7740x will be a big seller. I just dont see people buying this platform and using it with the 7740x, is a impressive overclock tho but not terribly exciting considering the whole platform.
I mean, it is running Prime95 with AVX2 (certainly not AVX512 because 4.8Ghz with AVX512 would easily run at over 500W), did you expect it to be ice cool? For reference 6950X at 4.3 is pulling well over 200 and thermal throttles with solder too on toms' setup.That 7900X is running really hot even at 4.8 on Tom's Hardware, 364 watt peak draw before it shut itself off running prime95.
I mean, it is running Prime95 with AVX2 (certainly not AVX512 because 4.8Ghz with AVX512 would easily run at over 500W), did you expect it to be ice cool? For reference 6950X at 4.3 is pulling well over 200 and thermal throttles with solder too on toms' setup.
It was not since Haswell-EP.Over 300 is nuts tho
It is not a CPU for 95% of people either.that is beyond the cooling capacity of 98% of the coolers that people have
You are not going to use that anything stability sensitive anyways, no ECC, and certainly not with any overclock.Dont want to be waiting on a rendering and have it crash right towards the end due to heat.
Over 300 is nuts tho, that is beyond the cooling capacity of 98% of the coolers that people have. To me is just shows the cooler can tolerate it for short amount of time and will eventually be overwhelmed at high clock speeds. I think they are dead on when they say 4.5 or lower is more likely for daily use. Dont want to be waiting on a rendering and have it crash right towards the end due to heat.
Cooling Requirements
Full-load Voltages over 1.25V fall into water-cooling territory (dual-radiator). With triple radiator
water-cooling solutions, using up to 1.35Vcore is possible (depending upon ambient temps).
VRMHeatsink Cooling
If running full load stress tests over 4GHz, active cooling of the VRMwith a fan is advised due to
current requirements of the 5960X processor.
Stress Testing
Users might want to avoid running Prime 28.5 small FFTs on 5960X CPUs when overclocked. Over
4.4GHz, the Prime software pulls 400Wof power through the CPU. It is possible this can cause
processor degradation.
no kind of application on earth run at the heat/stress level of prime95 with AVX, there's no secret that since haswell manufacturers as ASUS on their overclocking Guides RECOMMEND TO NOT USE prime95 with AVX Since Haswell with special remark on Haswell-E.
does anyone remember that guide? same keep applying to Broadwell-E and Skylake-X even on Mainstream Parts, reviewers keep using Prime95 for NO reason. nowadays Prime95 is more a cooling test than a stability test.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bz2VRRbLPrZnMXpJY3k5Vk8zSVU/edit
that's it some quotes:
those ARE CPUS hitting 100C and shut-down with the use of Prime95 AVX, those are CPUs going pulling OVER 400W on the CPU that have strict requirements for Cooling, and even for PSU!! So, What the heck is everyone complaining now About Skylake-X behaving EXACTLY the same..?
It has on stock CPUs, if you are overclocking you are disabling that limit by default. And well, Intel does not really care if you kill your CPU overclocking, if they learn of you touching multiplier they'll tell you to sod off.That doesnt make it right man. I agree it's over the top like Furmark but even gpu manufactures made it throttle vs burn itself into the ground. Intel needs to put a limiter on that power draw with AVX used.
I might just skip the 7900x and get the 7820x. Some reviewers are getting 4.8 Ghz at a reasonable temperature compared to that mini-nuclear warhead that is the 7900x without any deliding. Great multithreading prowess combined with 7700k-like single thread performance. Damn gimme dat shit!
I might just skip the 7900x and get the 7820x. Some reviewers are getting 4.8 Ghz at a reasonable temperature compared to that mini-nuclear warhead that is the 7900x without any deliding. Great multithreading prowess combined with 7700k-like single thread performance. Damn gimme dat shit!
Gimped AVX is a double advantage.You also get gimped PCIe and gimped AVX as an added bonus/feature. Sounds like a win-win!
Ah, never mind, you are being a troll here.Is this new intel socket a dead end for next gen, or does intel usually provide backward/forward compatibility for the privilege of spending more money for their platforms?
Skylake-X & Kaby Lake-X Reviews List
- AnandTech (Core i7-7800X, Core i7-7820X, Core i9-7900X)
I didn't even realize the overshadowed 7800x is beating the 1800x in many different applications.