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I like to point that amd cards may not be so great at launch, but unlike nvidia they get better with age. my 5870 lasted for eons, my 7970s still work fantastic, 290x solid, etc.
Anyone expecting 1080ti seems like a delusional fanboy to me. It's sad they prioritized CPU over GPU for so long when they already had a big player in the market when they acquired ATI.
I dont know about that, we dont know very much about it so anyone guess could be right. I picked greater then a 1080ti only cause Nvidia went out of their way to mention Volta was coming soon. As a corporation you almost never want to remind people that something better is coming soon unless your competition is about to release something better then your current product. Now it's merely speculation based on a a statement that may have just been a coincidence but it's better then just pulling something out of thin air. last time we saw a low clocked product and people were saying it wouldn't do well, we got Ryzen and it turned out much better then we thought, perhaps AMD can pull it off twice. Hopefully will know soon how well it performs.
Unless AMD announces their own event... Computex / E3.do we even have an idea for an announcement? FFS getting tired of waiting.
3 billion? Pshh, lets up the ante a little....
I'm in the same situation. My 5870 is in my wife's machine and I'm still using my 7970. I do plan on upgrading to vega though.See, that's why AMD is in the weeds - you guys never buy anything new.
Turns out, people who buy budget-oriented GPUs don't upgrade their GPUs very often. Shocker.
drivers that offer NO options what so ever to turn anything on or off in the drivers which still makes it crap.
It will be a 1080 level card.
I want it to beat the 1080Ti, I want it to destroy Nvidia. I want it to f*** Nvidia's wife to bring her to an earth-shattering orgasm and leave her wet-faced without a towel while Nvidia watches, and I want it to kick Nvidia's dog on the way out.
But it won't. This is AMD we're talking about.
Turns out, people who buy budget-oriented GPUs don't upgrade their GPUs very often. Shocker.
it'll be interesting to see what they sacrifice to get to that performance.
290X beat the Titan, the 7970 before that was the undisputed King. Only the last generation did AMD fall a bit behind and now with late delivery. But all in all your statement is ripe with crap and quite delusional.There is no way, amd can make a card to match an nvidia card. they havent been able to do it yet, and they still wont be able to do it. under the miracle they they do, there is still the crappy amd drivers that offer NO options what so ever to turn anything on or off in the drivers which still makes it crap.
Get lost Troll,There is no way, amd can make a card to match an nvidia card. they havent been able to do it yet, and they still wont be able to do it. under the miracle they they do, there is still the crappy amd drivers that offer NO options what so ever to turn anything on or off in the drivers which still makes it crap.
I dont know about that, we dont know very much about it so anyone guess could be right. I picked greater then a 1080ti only cause Nvidia went out of their way to mention Volta was coming soon. As a corporation you almost never want to remind people that something better is coming soon unless your competition is about to release something better then your current product. Now it's merely speculation based on a a statement that may have just been a coincidence but it's better then just pulling something out of thin air. last time we saw a low clocked product and people were saying it wouldn't do well, we got Ryzen and it turned out much better then we thought, perhaps AMD can pull it off twice. Hopefully will know soon how well it performs.
It is the same with their CPU wide. Took them 5 years to bring out a product to match Intel and still fell kinda short. They can only compete on price. I see the same thing happening with Vega. They are spread too thin with their R&D budget.LoL.. AMD doesn't exist in the nvidia's world anymore man, for nvidia AMD maybe just like a little smell of a fart that dissappear slowly in their room. They have already proven they don't need any stupid AMD competition to release great products, they needed ever to release the 1080ti so early without competition? Nope, they needed the Titan Xp? Nope.. the only competition to nvidia is their own..
They as company need to keep investors happy, they need to keep the cash flowing, they know if they release a new GPU people will be rushing to buy one, even if they have or doesn't have competition, releasing Volta soon will just mean that they don't care about what AMD can offer to the market.
just imagine best case scenario, "amd launched vega and compete with 1080 and 1080TI.." just at the time nvidia is about to release Volta and voila all what amd will receive it's a public shame to fall in the irrelevant territory again.. "oh yeah they released a 1080 competitor one year later.. great competition now the 1080 and 1080ti are irrelevant because Volta, can you see it?.. people will be selling their 1080, 1080ti and titans everywhere to buy volta while vega receive no love.. and that's how you keep investors happy as you keep receiving tons of money and cash flowing...
Draws 850W under load, requires second dedicated external 1000W PSU.
You make some interesting points.
I counter with this
If Vega were truly disruptive we'd see more official benchmarks parade candy tossed out and unofficial "leaks" if you will. We are a month or two before launch. The relative silence by AMD is deafening IMO. And how would Nvidia know anymore than we would about real world performance.
I think it'll fall out just a tad bit over 1080 speeds.
It'll lose to 1080 in a few benchmarks, but it'll be faster than 1080 in most benchmarks. In some optimized vulcan or dx12 games it'll approach 1080ti at 4k, but it'll be a closer competitor to the 1080 overall.
It'll be $600 MSRP for the 8 GB version.
I like to point that amd cards may not be so great at launch, but unlike nvidia they get better with age. my 5870 lasted for eons, my 7970s still work fantastic, 290x solid, etc.
You make some interesting points.
I counter with this
If Vega were truly disruptive we'd see more official benchmarks parade candy tossed out and unofficial "leaks" if you will. We are a month or two before launch. The relative silence by AMD is deafening IMO. And how would Nvidia know anymore than we would about real world performance.